Originally posted by brainchild81
😂 What's really sad is how irrelevant your post was. This isn't about who got their physical talents in a more admirable way, if it was, I'd also say Bats. It''s about who's the better fighter. Cap is. Cap's a cut above Batman physically & he's at least just as good as or possibly better than Bats as a tactician. The argument you use is one often used by Batfanboys. Avoid it.
Irrelevant to the thread, if anything. I see you just read and don't fully understand my point. I'll make it simple. Batman has been training very hard since he was 8. When you start training at a young age. The mind is more adaptable (like a sponge) to learning martial arts. Apart form that, Batman knows more fighting styles. This is common knowledge. And you say that Cap is possibly a better tactician, yeah when it comes to leading a team. But everything can't be solved through fighting. What can Cap do to stop a plague from spreading? In "Civil War" when he was captured by Iron Man. what happen to him being a great tactician? Batman would have escaped on his own without any help.
Actually, two things.
1) Batman doesn't know more styles, not that it matters since knowing more styles doesn't mean someone is more skilled.
and
2)About learning martial arts
Avengers#53(468)
Marcus: Initial analysis indicates that they are using the inchoate energies within the pyramid to duplicate our simulacrum-projection technology, though how skilled can they---
Kang: Enough, do not underestimate them. Captain America is an astounding warrior-- he has never fought under these conditions before-- but already he adapts- mastering the form more completely than many who’ve trained for decades, it is what makes him such a worthy foe
Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, two things.1) Batman doesn't know more styles, not that it matters since knowing more styles doesn't mean someone is more skilled.
and
2)About learning martial arts
Avengers#53(468)
Marcus: Initial analysis indicates that they are using the inchoate energies within the pyramid to duplicate our simulacrum-projection technology, though how skilled can they---
Kang: Enough, do not underestimate them. Captain America is an astounding warrior-- he has never fought under these conditions before-- but already he adapts- mastering the form more completely than many who’ve trained for decades, it is what makes him such a worthy foe
Yeah because of the SSS BS. Your not telling nothing that Batman can't do.
Cap defeats Pro.
Cap 7/10
People don't just reference Cache for nothing.
Cache stated he also chose a body that is more durable then weakly human flesh.
Plus too boot he had every martial arts style known to earth. Add to that he had multiple streams of data knowing all information from the net. Shows his computer genius was greater then regular man thats for sure.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
Just by that post alone tells me that you really don't understand Batman. What makes you doubt batman?
I'll take your inability to answer my question to mean that no such thing has been said of Batman.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
If someone cheats on a test and pasted the class. Is he consider as smart or smarter than someone who didn't cheat?
What does cheating on a test have to do with whether Cap is a better fighter?
Originally posted by thadarknite84
If someone cheats on a test and pasted the class. Is he consider as smart or smarter than someone who didn't cheat?
See saying that Batman is a better fighter than Cap without the SSS is one thing, but saying that Batman is a better fighter than Cap WITH the SSS just because Batman's better without it stinks of bias. You may find Batman's methods to be the more admirable of the two, but how admirable their methods were doesn't the level of fighting ability both ended up with.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'll take your inability to answer my question to mean that no such thing has been said of Batman.What does cheating on a test have to do with whether Cap is a better fighter?
Well I see that you couldn't answer my question neither. It's kinda like Ryu and Ken. Batman has more skill but Cap is a better fighter. Because he has something that batman doesn't. And it's not skill, will power, or determination. Because chances are that it would be a draw.
Originally posted by darthgoober
It would only be cheating if Cap took the SSS after the match was arranged. When people say "Cap vs Batman" unless otherwise stipulated it's Cap WITH the SSS vs Batman. The SSS is a stipulation of the comparison so it's in no way cheating because it goes right along with the rules set down for the match. Taking the SSS away from Cap on the other hand WOULD be cheating because it's going against the battle's established format.See saying that Batman is a better fighter than Cap without the SSS is one thing, but saying that Batman is a better fighter than Cap WITH the SSS just because Batman's better without it stinks of bias. You may find Batman's methods to be the more admirable of the two, but how admirable their methods were doesn't the level of fighting ability both ended up with.
No, but batman has more skill
uuggh. back to topic.
Prometheus crafted The Helmet with the ''Key To Everything'' -the ultimate plot device - Period.
With the current upgrades to Prometheus's Muscle Memory, Bronze Tiger W.W. Richard Dragon etc etc Cap is not connecting with a punch/shield untill a significant amount of lactic acid builds up within Prometheus.
Going Back to The Helmet. By 45 seconds into the fight The Helmet will have hardwired every move Cap has ever practiced direct to Pro's skillset.
Btw Prometheus has a gun.
Prometheus 10/10
