Captain America Vs. Prometheus

Originally posted by shiv
uuggh. back to topic.

Prometheus crafted The Helmet with the ''Key To Everything'' -the ultimate plot device - Period.

With the current upgrades to Prometheus's Muscle Memory, Bronze Tiger W.W. Richard Dragon etc etc Cap is not connecting with a punch/shield untill a significant amount of lactic acid builds up within Prometheus.

Going Back to The Helmet. By 45 seconds into the fight The Helmet will have hardwired every move Cap has ever practiced direct to Pro's skillset.

Btw Prometheus has a gun.

Prometheus 10/10

Sorry, but according to the comics, Cap has already beaten him and for those that don't want to use a crossover, he's beaten Cache and Cache had even more skills downloaded.

ok lets go with what yer sayin [ABC Logic]

Bane beats Batman Therefore Bane > Batman.

Cap= Bats from here: [PIS]

Bane > Bats n Cap Right?

aND given the belief that Cap>Prometheus
Then Bane > Cap Bats Prometheus Iron Fist Richard Dragon Batgirl Champion WW etc.

Originally posted by shiv
ok lets go with what yer sayin [ABC Logic]

Bane beats Batman Therefore Bane > Batman.

Cap= Bats from here: [PIS]

Bane > Bats n Cap Right?

aND given the belief that Cap>Prometheus
Then Bane > Cap Bats Prometheus Iron Fist Richard Dragon Batgirl Champion WW etc.

So what you're saying is that we can't use examples where Cap has beaten Prometheus or ones that have Cap beating someone that has downloaded every style on Earth.

Interesting.

Batman beat Prometheus but we can't use that example because Well Batman sneakily reprogrammed Pro's helmet with Parkinsons before the fight.

And we can't use that scan of Wayne and Rogers Crossover coz thats Pis AND CIS from Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne persona is known for CIS.

And we can't use That Crossover of Cap vs Pro coz the Plot does not allow The character to make full usage of his skillset

In The TPB Hush Returns There is a Green Arrow vs Prometheus Showdown which Green Arrow wins with arrows. This too whilst in continuity is PIS.

Because with The Moves Pro Downloaded from Batman plucking the arrows out of the air would have been no big deal. The failiure to reach for the gun at his side to lay down covering fire was also PIS.

Originally posted by shiv
Batman beat Prometheus but we can't use that example because Well Batman sneakily reprogrammed Pro's helmet with Parkinsons before the fight.

And we can't use that scan of Wayne and Rogers Crossover coz thats Pis AND CIS from Bruce Wayne. Bruce Wayne persona is known for CIS.

And we can't use That Crossover of Cap vs Pro coz the Plot does not allow The character to make full usage of his skillset

In The TPB Hush Returns There is a Green Arrow vs Prometheus Showdown which Green Arrow wins with arrows. This too whilst in continuity is PIS.

Because with The Moves Pro Downloaded from Batman plucking the arrows out of the air would have been no big deal. The failiure to reach for the gun at his side to lay down covering fire was also PIS.

The only point you have is the first one, apart from that you just seem to be making excuses.

Cap didn't reprogram anything during his fights with Prometheus and Cache, he just straight beat them down.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap didn't reprogram anything during his fights with Prometheus and Cache, he just straight beat them down.

Uh uh no he didnt. 😐

I remember Cap hitting Prom with the energy shield, however it was strapped to his arm so even if he didn’t have it, his fist would have still connected and I don’t recall him using any weapons in the Cache fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I remember Cap hitting Prom with the energy shield, however it was strapped to his arm so even if he didn’t have it, his fist would have still connected and I don’t recall him using any weapons in the Cache fight.

Its ok im just takin the piss. 😂

Ah...ok, sometimes it's hard to tell.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Its ok im just takin the piss. 😂

Geddouttahere /stfu lol.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Based on what? No opinions about which character is "better", what actual proof/scan establishes that Batman is outright more skilled?

Prove what, Watcher? With a name like that, you should already know. I say he is more skilled because he's more well rounded than Cap. Batman is more skilled in alot of different areas.

Originally posted by thadarknite84
If someone cheats on a test and pasted the class. Is he consider as smart or smarter than someone who didn't cheat?

Originally posted by thadarknite84
Prove what, Watcher? With a name like that, you should already know. I say he is more skilled because he's more well rounded than Cap. Batman is more skilled in alot of different areas.

Just keep in mind that things like chemistry aren't going to help Bats in a forum fight were he doesn't get prep.

Originally posted by brainchild81
That example shows your bias. A better example'd be is: is someone who took a "smarter than everybody" drug smarter than the guy who's studied hard to be smarter than almost everybody. The answer is "yes". The way the studied guy got his smarts was more honorable, but in the end the guy who took the enhancement would still be smarter.

No it really doesn't. What you said is not so different. Cap having the SSS doesn't make him more skilled. It's about how much you know and how good is your ability to use it. So give Batman the SSS and see who is really the better, more skilled fighter while they're on even ground. Because that is the only thing that puts Cap over Batman.

So you admit that Cap is more skilled?

No, I'm saying that the SSS is the only thing that puts him over Batman.

I agree that's what put's him over Bats. You're gonna have to learn to cope w/that a lil' better though. You're parked in a no-whine zone 😂 SSS Batman vs. Cap would likely end in stalemates. These guys are both masters of using what they know to the utmost(it seems like Cap may be more adaptable though if he can master new stuff in moments).

Originally posted by thadarknite84
No, I'm saying that the SSS is the only thing that puts him over Batman.

That statement is a little vague.

Do you mean it makes him a better fighter, physically superior, that it's what gives him the win, or all/none of the above?