Darkseid Vs. WW Hulk Fist Fight

Originally posted by darthgoober
"No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
[B]Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it " [/B]

Who did WWH fight that has DS physical package. Juggernaut? He's got durability but DS has him over on the other traits. Who? Sentry? Again, we don't see anything form Sentry, except that he can match WWH in a physical fight. DS has physically dismissed Superman, WW and Orion with ease, he's been displayed as having more strength than regular Supes etc He's shown enough speed in his past to even surprise the Flash.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Is that what I did? No it's not. Check your reading.

Really...

Originally posted by fangirl101
DS. Faster and More durable and Stronger on the onset.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I didnt' see anyone as strong, fast, and durable as DS fight WWH.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because you're making the claim that DS is stronger/faster/more durable than Hulk or anyone he fought without providing proof to back it up.

I think the issue is who did WWH fight that had DS' package? He's got speed, durability, and strength above or that rivals Supermans. The issue is who has WWH fought that comes close to matching DS' all round package.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Really...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Really...

You didn't do anything. Context dear. parts of sentences without reference to whom and what I'm refering makes you look desperate.

Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
Pwnt.

Not really. you pwned yourself for putting your two cents in without waiting to see my rebuttle.

Originally posted by Allankles
I think the issue is who did WWH fight that had DS' package? He's got speed, durability, and strength above or that rivals Supermans. The issue is who has WWH fought that comes close to matching DS' all round package.

My point exactly. I didnt' see anyone who WWH fought who had everything DS has.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You didn't do anything. Context dear. parts of sentences without reference to whom and what I'm refering makes you look desperate.

Insert a quarter, try again.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Not really. you pwned yourself for putting your two cents in without waiting to see my rebuttle.

jockey

Originally posted by fangirl101
You didn't do anything. Context dear. parts of sentences without reference to whom and what I'm refering makes you look desperate.

...and the second statement(located here)...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10733712#post10733712

...is pretty self explanatory 😬 .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Those aren't parts of statements you made, they're the entire statement. The first quote is your initial claim for the winner of the thread and it's located here...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10704940#post10704940

...and the second statement(located here)...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10733712#post10733712

...is pretty self explanatory 😬 .

And I was somehow wrong in that? Everyone agrees that Superman is Stronger than Hulk on the onset. DS is slightly stronger. Faster. Not even debateable. DS is far faster than hulk. more durable. Surely you don't think the hulk can survive a blast from the Ale while in his calm state do you? Nice try. Self explainatory. Oh and I still didn't see anyone that WWH fought who had DS set of physical and skill ability.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And I was somehow wrong in that? Everyone agrees that Superman is Stronger than Hulk on the onset. DS is slightly stronger. Faster. Not even debateable. DS is far faster than hulk. more durable. Surely you don't think the hulk can survive a blast from the Ale while in his calm state do you? Nice try. Self explainatory. Oh and I still didn't see anyone that WWH fought who had DS set of physical and skill ability.

I also believe that Superman is stronger than any hulk at base level...superman's strength is really Hulk-like....it is whatever he needs it to be to do whatever heroic deed he is doing at the moment

Originally posted by Starscream M
I also believe that Superman is stronger than any hulk at base level...superman's strength is really Hulk-like....it is whatever he needs it to be to do whatever heroic deed he is doing at the moment

Originally posted by darthgoober
If Supes's strength is "Hulk like" and they have comparable feats of pure physical strength to their credit, why would Supes be stronger?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I meant Superman has hulk's "strength can grow to exponential level" ability...except that Superman starts off at a higher base level strength than Hulk, and his strength growing ability is more PIS than an actual ability like Hulk's

Originally posted by darthgoober
The problem with that theory is that it was well established that Hulk arrived on Earth angrier and stronger than he'd ever been. That means that unlike old school Savage Hulk, WWH actually starts his matches being able of replicating his most impressive feats of strength, he doesn't have to get any angrier for his strength to hit that level.

WWHulk's base was on another level

Originally posted by darthgoober
Everyone obviously doesn't agree otherwise there wouldn't be a debate going on about the subject. And since everyone's not in agreement on the subject and you made the claim you have to back it up with proof under forum rules.

Superman's strength feats surpass the Hulks. DS has won more fist fights with Superman than the other way around. I stand by my statement.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman's strength feats surpass the Hulks. DS has won more fist fights with Superman than the other way around. I stand by my statement.

"No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it "

What feats of pure physical strength does Supes have to his credit that surpasses the Hulk's best feats?

Originally posted by Allankles
Co-sign. WWH hasn't fought anyone with DS total package.

DS hasnt fought anyone with WWH's total package.

See how that works? Try using better arguments.