Originally posted by iceman24567
KC Superman took lighting bolts from a powerful version of Captain Marvel he is stronger, faster and more durable than normal Superman he is above The Hulk to point that this is spite.
You said it, buddy. If the original had taken Supes' speed advantage away, WWH would stand a better chance.
Originally posted by janus77
nah, I prefer Sam Z, he didn't resort to circular logic nor specious reasoning (well, he didn't provide any reasoning, but that's another matter entirely).umm, you realise you're just dressing up your opinion of Superman (as being the "greatest superhero ever"😉 as some objective fact in relation to characters in all comics everywhere.
also, you clearly haven't read any Hulk for a good few years as Hulk hasn't been a "not very rational" 'brute', for quite some time.
from around the 300s he's been meditating, he's been possessed of an intellect not far off WWH, he's been capable of (and has frequently utilised) transforming into Banner at will and vice versa.
basically you don't know what you're talking about but you do feel it passionately... have you argued with Sam Z in the past?
Yeah I do know what I'm talking about. And I do have passion for these characters. I would bet money, most of the people on these forums, are either between 16 and maybe 38 or higher. All talking about something that is not real. So yeah, I do care a little. And what point did you really make? I already knew that about Superman before you posted that little feat; that's how he keeps large objects from breaking under it's own weight. And I said this was a fist fight, but I never said that Superman can't use that ability against Hulk or his super speed. KC Superman is the winner of this battle.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Not to but in, but it's actually been established by Supes himself that there's a lot more at work than strength when he lifts something while flying...I'm not making a call in this fight mind you, I just thought that was worth pointing out.
Thats what I've been trying to get across that these fans all over Superman's jock fail to comprehend. WWH is close to KC Superman in physical power by default, and he would quickly surpass him....both doing more physical damage and becoming tougher during the fight.
Superman has plenty of ways of pulling off wins vs WWH. He has tons of potential powers he often fails to put to use effectivelyl as it is....Again...just No chance of a slugfest victory going toe to toe in a standing fist fight.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Thats what I've been trying to get across that these fans all over Superman's jock fail to comprehend. WWH is close to KC Superman in physical power by default, and he would quickly surpass him....both doing more physical damage and becoming tougher during the fight.Superman has plenty of ways of pulling off wins vs WWH. He has tons of potential powers he often fails to put to use effectivelyl as it is....Again...just No chance of a slugfest victory going toe to toe in a standing fist fight.
What does that have to do with KC Superman knocking him to space?
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Thats what I've been trying to get across that these fans all over Superman's jock fail to comprehend. WWH is close to KC Superman in physical power by default, and he would quickly surpass him....both doing more physical damage and becoming tougher during the fight.Superman has plenty of ways of pulling off wins vs WWH. He has tons of potential powers he often fails to put to use effectivelyl as it is....Again...just No chance of a slugfest victory going toe to toe in a standing fist fight.
Originally posted by horrorwolfWWH is not close to Superman in strength, not for a while an Superman normal is above Hulk anyway.
Thats what I've been trying to get across that these fans all over Superman's jock fail to comprehend. WWH is close to KC Superman in physical power by default, and he would quickly surpass him....both doing more physical damage and becoming tougher during the fight.Superman has plenty of ways of pulling off wins vs WWH. He has tons of potential powers he often fails to put to use effectivelyl as it is....Again...just No chance of a slugfest victory going toe to toe in a standing fist fight.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Says who? Its like speaking to Wolverine fanboys I give up.
Not necessary....don't give up, like I said just show a physical feat of Superman's strength exceeding Savege Hulk's support of 150 Billion tons (under his own strength) and I will support your view, that he is "stronger" than World War Hulk.
Simple.
Otherwise you still phail and WWH doesn't get KO'd or BFR'd in a fistfight.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Why would he do that feat when he can fly? It makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense.
Point being...Superman NEEDS to use flight to make up for lack of physical strength when it comes to pushing or moving things that exceed his ability to push or pull. He is not as powerful as fanboys want him to be when it comes to physical strength. And he certainly isn't far above World War Hulk base levels in Strength OR power.
Like it or not, there is only so much leverage and power potential that can come from his small frame. It comes into play bigtime in a standing toe to toe fist fight.
Originally posted by Sam Z
He doesn't need he just uses it because he can. Why would he not use flight if he has it? Explain to me. Stop thinking like Hulk for a second.
There is no reason not to in a standing fist fight. lol
As far as thinking like a Hulk - you might want to re-read the thread topic...and ask the TC, he specified this as a toe to toe...not me.
Its said too many times that its a pure slugest....Im sure Superman could fly directly into WWH but why recieve even more of a beatdown...and make it that much easier to grab?
Because its stupid...just as stupid as forcing Superman to stand and trade blows with a WWH in the first place. 😕
