Originally posted by Master-Borg
you said batman has beaten people who were stronger, faster, AND SMARTERno one on the JLA is smarter than Batman
I'm talking about overall abilities, and yes Aquaman is faster, stronger, more durable and he is no sloutch in intelligence as he commands the Atlantis army. Like I mentioned earlier he even defeated the entire Teen Titans, when Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Flash and Aquaman were taken out
Originally posted by Master-Borg
the onetime Batman goes up against someone who is faster, stronger, and smarter ---aka Deathstroke--- he ends up almost died
And DS had to work for it
Yeah, I guess I'll be making a DS respect thread and I'll compile everything. I'll be abit to organize everything as I just finished the huge Darkseid respect thread
I already know all about Slade's feats but I'll be waiting anyway.
b) DS is just as skilled as Bats
No he's not. Take away his enhancements and Slade wouldn't be a match for Bruce really. Even Slade has gone on record as saying that he'd hate to fight Bruce without them.
the only difference is the conclusion we draw from those two facts. My conclusion is that DS will own Batman in a fight (as shown in comics, when Batman was basically killed by DS, who had a minor limp).
Are you refering to DS #7?
You do know that Slade was so badly injuried afterwards that he couldn't defend himself properly against a man who was handcuffed and had to be saved right?
To his credit he did win the hth fight but he didn't walk away fine at all instead it was just the opposite.
You, on the other hand, discard the common logical conclusion that follows from those two facts as well as onpanel evidence and claim Batman has just a good shot at winning as DS.
Bruce actually does have a very good shot and would win just not the majority of the time in hth combat at least.
Deathstroke while he is a better hth fighter then Batman due to his enhancements and brilliant tactical mind still isn't anywhere near as skilled as Bruce. I give Slade 6/10 odds over Bruce in hth combat but no more then that.
3. 90% brain power utilization gives DS even MORE reasons to own Batman.
Not really since it hasn't stopped Batman from giving him such a hard time in all their fights and this was Batman without his weaponry who disarmed Slade of his pretty quickly.
Matter of fact, if anything these two are often compared to one another in terms of strategy by others. I consider them equals in strategy and tactics.
Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Are you refering to DS #7?You do know that Slade was so badly injuried afterwards that he couldn't defend himself properly against a man who was handcuffed and had to be saved right?
To his credit he did win the hth fight but he didn't walk away fine at all instead it was just the opposite.
Exactally, that's what I have been saying multiple times. He did not walk away with a "minor" limp
Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Bruce actually does have a very good shot and would win just not the majority of the time in hth combat at least.Deathstroke while he is a better hth fighter then Batman due to his enhancements and brilliant tactical mind still isn't anywhere near as skilled as Bruce. I give Slade 6/10 odds over Bruce in hth combat but no more then that.
Not really since it hasn't stopped Batman from giving him such a hard time in all their fights and this was Batman without his weaponry who disarmed Slade of his pretty quickly.
Matter of fact, if anything these two are often compared to one another in terms of strategy by others. I consider them equals in strategy and tactics.
Same odds I gave DS, not 9/10
Originally posted by Master-Borg
hahaha, you couldn't name me ONE person who batman beat who was 'stronger, faster, smarter, AND overall more powerful'.
What? did you miss the entire point?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wasn't hyperbole as they show DS training, even his martial arts mastered referenced his martial arts skill
People who are stronger, faster, smarter and overall more powerful have failed against Batman as well 😬 [/B][/QUOTE]
How does that not mean it hyperbole? When yokie got stated as the second best fighter one the planet she was fighting next to wolverine.....
so don't black widow, ws ect all of which stated as being one of the best fighters on the planet.........
yes, but not more skilled. Which is the point. If some one is physically superior to batman in ever way and just as skilled they should defeat him with out leaving the battle baddly wounded.
DS is not batmans equal in skill he a second tier.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
How does that not mean it hyperbole? When yokie got stated as the second best fighter one the planet she was fighting next to wolverine.....so don't black widow, ws ect all of which stated as being one of the best fighters on the planet.........
yes, but not more skilled. Which is the point. If some one is physically superior to batman in ever way and just as skilled they should defeat him with out leaving the battle baddly wounded.
DS is not batmans equal in skill he a second tier.
That's nice, but DS was referenced not once but multiple times to being one of the best fighters.
I guess you will have to wait and see for the completed respect thread again 😬
DS is second tier now? 😕
Originally posted by Master-Borg
Aquaman is not smarter than Batman.You specifically stated that batman beat people who were stronger, faster, and smarter...but haven't given one name yet who fit all those criteria.
Yeah I wasn't talking all in one abilities as I mentioned earlier 😬 Hence why I been saying did you miss the point?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's nice, but DS was referenced not once but multiple times to being one of the best fighters.I guess you will have to wait and see for the completed respect thread again 😬
DS is second tier now? 😕
SO has the majority of the second tier fighters.
I guess I will.
yup. he simply not in pure MA skill equal to top tier MA's.
Originally posted by Master-Borgmungi, please answer this post
ok, King Mungi, let me break it down like this:if we have 2 fighters, call them B and D
D is physically superior in everyway to B
D is just as intelligent if not moreso than B
and D is just as skilled as B
who would you say would win a majority of their fights?
Originally posted by King_Mungigreat, I knew you would avoid a direct answer lol
......lulz, please answer all my other points and comments first.You have been proven several times wrong in this thread already 😬
sad.
I answered all your comments and points, you can dismiss them, but I responded.
You have failed to answer my hypothetical.
Originally posted by Phantom Ghost
Are you refering to DS #7?You do know that Slade was so badly injuried afterwards that he couldn't defend himself properly against a man who was handcuffed and had to be saved right?
To his credit he did win the hth fight but he didn't walk away fine at all instead it was just the opposite.
Bruce actually does have a very good shot and would win just not the majority of the time in hth combat at least.
Deathstroke while he is a better hth fighter then Batman due to his enhancements and brilliant tactical mind still isn't anywhere near as skilled as Bruce. I give Slade 6/10 odds over Bruce in hth combat but no more then that.
Not really since it hasn't stopped Batman from giving him such a hard time in all their fights and this was Batman without his weaponry who disarmed Slade of his pretty quickly.
Matter of fact, if anything these two are often compared to one another in terms of strategy by others. I consider them equals in strategy and tactics.
This was directed at you, oh and Batman apparently beat DS in Decetive Comics using his own rifle
Originally posted by Master-Borgand this was directed towards you, its a simple question. Your refusal to answer it says quite a bit. 😉
ok, King Mungi, let me break it down like this:if we have 2 fighters, call them B and D
D is physically superior in everyway to B
D is just as intelligent if not moreso than B
and D is just as skilled as B
who would you say would win a majority of their fights?