Originally posted by Master-Borg
why was it bad writing?
Because Apocalypse has complete molecular control over his body.
Because it was said that Nate Grey and Apocalypse rival in power.
Because Apocalypse could negate Magneto powers due to his molecular control, thus having Magneto pretty much no affect on Apocalypse.
Because Apocalypse could have killed Magneto more times through AOA. He defeated him and Bishop at the same time. He could kill him anytime. Even at the end, when Apocalypse was choking him and talking to him, meantime Magneto was gathering all of his powers, Apocalypse could tear his head of in a split second.
And because Apocalypse is also known that he can be written among worst of all characters in Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I can't say who would win without prep,
but with prep,
Doom curbstomps Apoc.Doom's greatest feat (without stipulations or outside manipulation)
was when he actually re-constructed a fractured Cosmic Containment Unit,
this CCU not only merged 616 with 3 other entire UniverseS,
but it nearly collapsed the Omniverse entire,
Roma had to interfere and save the day through plot.Doom stealing Beyonder's power should be disregarded,
as that event was coerced by the Beyonder himself.Doom DID however steal SS's power,
and the energies contained within Galactus' ship (which made him a universal power)Doom was the only being that nearly got the best of Magus during Infinity War,
had the IG not become functional at the very last moment, he would've succeeded.Also,
the only being to nearly get over on Akhenaten was Doom (besides Thanos of course)
Akhenaten was tapping the power of THOTI as we all know.Again, with prep, only Reed compares to Doom,
and only Thanos surpasses him.
All Doom did in Marvel The End was travel in time.
And wasn't it the same Doom that stole the 'Beyonders powers, that absorbed the energies contained in Galactus' ship?
Not saying that Doom is in any way below Apocalypse in the prep department, but their goals have always been somewhat different. And it's also debatable who was stronger, Cyclopalypse or Doom w/pc
Originally posted by llagrokAll Doom did in Marvel The End was travel in time.
Thanos was the only to succeed.
Originally posted by llagrokAnd wasn't it the same Doom that stole the 'Beyonders powers,
that absorbed the energies contained in Galactus' ship?
So 616 Doom taking Galactus' power is a legitimate statement,
but when he took Beyonder's power that was unconsciously coerced by Beyonder.
Originally posted by llagrokNot saying that Doom is in any way below Apocalypse in the prep department, but their goals have always been somewhat different.
Originally posted by llagrokAnd it's also debatable who was stronger, Cyclopalypse or Doom w/pc
Originally posted by Mr Master
He was the only being to get close to defeating Akhenaten.
Yeah, I'm just saying that it's not really THAT impressive to travel in time.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes. But like Goober said,
the original Doom was re-introduced into that point in 616's Timeline by Beyonder,
so the original Doom re-played everything the alternate Doom did,
of course under Beyonder's control but still,
the historical event is now tied to 616 Doom,
so,
616 Doom can get credit for what his alternate did.So 616 Doom taking Galactus' power is a legitimate statement,
but when he took Beyonder's power that was unconsciously coerced by Beyonder.
Alright, that's only fair.
Originally posted by Mr Master
True, but Doom's have just been on a grandeur scale,
surely you agree.
You can say that.
Apocalypse goal isn't something you really can accomplish in my opinion, not truly.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
What is so special about AoA?We might as well use this...
forget everything else but seriously ppl wanted logan to be the next one in line to be the leader? wtf he is badass and all but a leader i don't think so. anyway... what are we talking about doom and apoc? hmmmmm yeah still thinking