Originally posted by King Kandy
Okay, don't say I didn't warn you because you're about to look REALLY stupid.Dr. Strange #182, Page 18:
"Ay, Nightmare, you bound me-- after my battle with Dormammu! But why should I not have allowed you-- when the months you held me were as nothing to me?"
Nightmare bound Eternity after Dormammu forced him dormant.
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so nightmare bound him after the fight. yes, i'm well aware of that. where exactly does it say eternity was dormant BEFORE nightmare bound him . . .?
anyway, you're right -- ONE of us is about to look very stupid . . .
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternityxz0.jpg
for a dormant being, he speaks quite well . . . at least until nightmare BOUND him:
http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternity2xa4.jpg
he most CERTAINLY WAS NOT DORMANT WHEN NIGHTMARE ATTACKED HIM!
So you admit that Eternity could not destroy him?
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yeah, that's exactly what i said. brilliant debating tactic. clearly YOU are implying eternity lacks the power to kill dormammu if he chooses to do so. wait -- he DID kill him, then cuz d is a cool villain it was retconned to banishment that d needed a plot device to escape from. if you serisously believe eternity lacks the power to destroy d if he wanted to, you're even further gone than i thought.
When?
right about . . . here:
http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternity3ai8.jpg
Well I guess this one just went down, huh?
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Thor only perceived it as chess, it was actually a fight.
clearly it is unwise to actually take your word for this. i've read the issue but can't remember if that was ever said but i'll check. regardless, it definitely DID say that their matches always end in stalemates! that implies what, exactly? that odin and d are on the same levels -- SKYFATHER. so even if you ARE right, d has never been able to defeat odin. your own 'proof' strengthens my case. so, thanks. 😉
Originally posted by leonidas
🤨so nightmare bound him after the fight. yes, i'm well aware of that. where exactly does it say eternity was dormant BEFORE nightmare bound him . . .?
anyway, you're right -- ONE of us is about to look very stupid . . .
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternityxz0.jpg
for a dormant being, he speaks quite well . . . at least until nightmare BOUND him:
http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eternity2xa4.jpg
he most CERTAINLY WAS NOT DORMANT WHEN NIGHTMARE ATTACKED HIM!
Originally posted by leonidas
😂yeah, that's exactly what i said. brilliant debating tactic. clearly YOU are implying eternity lacks the power to kill dormammu if he chooses to do so. wait -- he DID kill him, then cuz d is a cool villain it was retconned to banishment that d needed a plot device to escape from. if you serisously believe eternity lacks the power to destroy d if he wanted to, you're even further gone than i thought.
And as for whether or not Eternity COULD have destroyed Dormammu, well... he had his chance and he came up short.
Originally posted by leonidas
right about . . . here:
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Originally posted by leonidas
clearly it is unwise to actually take your word for this. i've read the issue but can't remember if that was ever said but i'll check. regardless, it definitely DID say that their matches always end in stalemates! that implies what, exactly? that odin and d are on the same levels -- SKYFATHER. so even if you ARE right, d has never been able to defeat odin. your own 'proof' strengthens my case. so, thanks. 😉
Originally posted by King Kandy
That was NOT when he was bound, that was a vision Nightmare gave strange, showing Eternity was under his control. Dr. Strange rescues Eternity within the next day, but Eternity says he has been bound for months, curious no? That was only Nightmare controlling Eternity.
so not only did eternity let nightmare bind him, he also let nightmare control him? okay . . .
anywho, the issue is getting tiresome. you have exactly . . . ZERO proof that dormammu rendered eternity dormant or comatose or . . . whatever the hell you think happened to him. NIGHTMARE bound eternity, NOT dormammu. your OWN quote supports it. d did NOTHING to eternity. strange himself calls eternity unconquerable and feels silly for having rescued him because eternity could have escaped anytime he wished.
And as for whether or not Eternity COULD have destroyed Dormammu, well... he had his chance and he came up short.
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all right. whatever you say.
Never says the power was more then he could comprehend, only that it was more then he thought it was. i.e. he underestimated Eternity big time. Never says the power was to great for him to comprehend. If I fight a midget and then it turns out he's built like Arnold Schwarzenegger, then his power was "beyond my reckoning."
help! someone throw kandy and life preserver, he's drowning! 😂 reckoning=comprehension=understanding
believe what you want though. 😉
Yeah, you check on that and scan it for me. And while a stalemate is counted as a tie, it's indicative that one player is a turn away from checkmate and would have lost if not for that rule, i.e. Odin was on the losing side the whole time.
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that's just . . . shrug
everytime they played they tied. EVERYTIME! one turn away from losing?? wtf?? have you PLAYED chess? i've played a stalemate where neither me NOR my opponent ever had CHECK let alone the fact that one of us was 'a turn away from checkmate!' and it really doesn't matter who was winning at some sundry point in a battle -- it's the END result that matters. what a ridiculous point to raise . . .
the notion that they tie everytime pretty clearly indicates their relative power level to anyone thinking rationally and not continuing to prolong a losing debate out of frustration.
once again, to sum up:
--eternity>>>>>>>>>>dormammu
--NIGHTMARE bound eternity (eternity LET him), NOT dormammu
--you have exactly ZERO proof that dormammu affected eternity in ANY way
--consistently being able to stalemate odin is pretty clear evidence that dormammu is a relative equal to odin. ie--BOTH are skyfather-level
--aside from mentioning the 40yr old eternity battle (which is NO PROOF AT ALL) you have produced exactly ZERO evidence to support your idea that d>odin. how about something from the past 2 decades, maybe? ANYTHING else?? come on kk, he couldn't even take over HELL for more than a day OR without HELP! but he he can put eternity into a coma! 😐
reply if you'd like, but unless you actually have something in the way of proof of your claim, i'm done with the issue.
We can say that Dormammu=Odiin.
The only difference I see between them is that Dormammu is immortal and he actually gains more power through worship. I'm not sure if this adds to his powers, replenishes his health or even makes him stronger than Odin.
So with this in mind, can we conclude that Dormammu>Mephisto because Mephisto is a low Skyfather. What about Mephisto strikes Dormammu? In other words, what other feats has he accomplish or what has he proven to be strong or as strong as a akyfather besides the Galactus fight?
I don't know about Tyrant. Where does he fit in? Tyrant is a monster who took out some of the best single handly. Tyrant only lost the second time because of the Ultimate Nullifier.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
No. Tyrant can absorb biospheric energy, but it's never been shown he can absorb mystical energy.
Cool 😎 . Then it is settled
On Earth
Dormammu>Tyrant>Mephisto
On Mephisto's Realm
Mephisto>Dormammu> Tyrant
On Dark Dimension
Dormammu>Tyrant>=<Mephisto
Would Mephisto gain any power enhancements in Dormammu's realm? If he didn't then Tyrant>Mephisto. Would Dormammu gain any enhancements on Mephisto's realm?
Originally posted by PowerCosmic
Cool 😎 . Then it is settledOn Earth
Dormammu>Tyrant>Mephisto
On Mephisto's Realm
Mephisto>Dormammu> Tyrant
On Dark Dimension
Dormammu>Tyrant>=<Mephisto
Would Mephisto gain any power enhancements in Dormammu's realm? If he didn't then Tyrant>Mephisto. Would Dormammu gain any enhancements on Mephisto's realm?
mephisto has been defeated in his own realm by lesser people than tyrant and dormammu
Originally posted by LORD B
mephisto has been defeated in his own realm by lesser people than tyrant and dormammu
Hmm, I figured Ghost Rider would be one of them. I am not to sure though.
So most likely, Mephisto would be place last place during this match.
Dormammu would then be in a showdown with Tyrant, with Dormammu probably coming out on top with his mystical magic. 💃 .
