Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No no, you hate the ancient sith and you provide awful arguments against them.. And the JA argument is ridiculous considering Ragnos' power was limited by Tavion's body, so Jaden defeated Tavion with some assistance from Ragnos. We all saw what happens when Ragnos got mad. His spirit wtfpwned Tavion.
Wtfpwned Tavion? If you're referring to her death because of Dark side poisoning, that doesn't change the fact that Jaden pwned Ragnos. I've argued over this before. Tavion by herself was good enough to test Jaden, her size/strength would not have been much of a factor as she was decently powerful force sensitive herself.
Ragnos inability to defeat Jaden is a testament to Jaden's ability. Afterall, Ragnos still had his skills and he likely strengthened Tavion's body with the dark side. Notice how infuriated Ragnos gets, he couldn't believe he was beat.
This is irrelevant to the point I was making though. Back when I had JA in my collection I didn't give a damn about ancient Sith or their power levels, that only happened around the time I joined KMC. My enjoyment at kicking Ragnos Sith butt had nothing to do with any opinion I had on ancient Sith, and everything to do with the fact that I beat a supposedly awesome villain.
Originally posted by Allankles
Wtfpwned Tavion? If you're referring to her death because of Dark side poisoning, that doesn't change the fact that Jaden pwned Ragnos. I've argued over this before. Tavion by herself was good enough to test Jaden, her size/strength would not have been much of a factor as she was decently powerful force sensitive herself.
Ragnos inability to defeat Jaden is a testament to Jaden's ability. Afterall, Ragnos still had his skills and he likely strengthened Tavion's body with the dark side. Notice how infuriated Ragnos gets, he couldn't believe he was beat.
This is irrelevant to the point I was making though. Back when I had JA in my collection I didn't give a damn about ancient Sith or their power levels, that only happened around the time I joined KMC. My enjoyment at kicking Ragnos Sith butt had nothing to do with any opinion I had on ancient Sith, and everything to do with the fact that I beat a supposedly awesome villain.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Death by darkside poisioning? Wow, you've just made my case for me, thanks. And it was the fact that she couldn't withstand Ragnos' corruption. If you're going to lie, make sure neither of us have played the game. Jaden didn't pwn Ragnos. Jade pwned Tavion with some help from Ragnos, whose abilities were severely limited by Tavion's body and force mastery.
That's what I'm referring to as poisoning. Her body was worn out by the Darkside energy she absorbed as a result of Ragnos' possession. How does the use of the word "poisoning" not make it clear that I was referring to her ds corruption? Jaden explains as much to Kyle and Luke after the fight.
Arguing for nothing. Do you just have a ridiculous tendency to be argumentative even when there are no grounds for an argument?
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Or it's a testament to Tavion's weakness seeing as how Ragnos was a powerless force ghost who was summoned by his scepter.
Yes, the argument can work both ways. I say it's a testament to Jaden's talent and prowess that he beats Ragnos even after defeating Tavion in a previous battle and potentially several other dark Jedi.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except you have proven time and time again (with your ridiculous arguments), how much you dislike the ancient sith.
Except nothing. I don't share your opinion on the ancient Sith, but I also don't care enough about them either way to dislike them. I like Jedi like Ulic as a character (mostly after he'd become broken), I thought there was some depth there that other characters portrayed in that period lacked. I personally never felt he was meant be some big powerhouse monster.
I also liked the Exile as a character because the creators gave her some depth, in both cases the creators were clearly more concerned with a compelling plot than with power levels and other juvenile ideas.
To cut this short, my opinion on the ancient Sith has never been driven by any kind of dislike on my part, but more to do with their actual abilities in the context of singles combat (of which there is very little or unconvincing evidence).
Originally posted by Allankles
[B]That's what I'm referring to as poisoning. Her body was worn out by the Darkside energy she absorbed as a result of Ragnos' possession. How does the use of the word "poisoning" not make it clear that I was referring to her ds corruption? Jaden explains as much to Kyle and Luke after the fight.
I also liked the Exile as a character because the creators gave her some depth, in both cases the creators were clearly more concerned with a compelling plot than with power levels and other juvenile ideas.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
The Exile is a powerhouse. Unfortunately, a powerhouse with too few feats to even suggest she could beat Ulic.Kinda like Ragnos himself except he's cooler than the Exile.
No Nikkolas, the exile is not a powerhouse, nor comparable to Ragnos. She's an average Jedi with 1 innate ability and nothing suggests otherwise.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Shut up Tdtd. Your fanboyism is not needed here.Your claims of the Exile being an average Jedi are the saddest argument since Nebaris claimed Krayt can beat Yoda.
And yet you're still on here embarassing yourself after denying your identity like an idiot. And this coming from someone who has yet to make any cogent arguments here, can we say hypocrite? Your pitiful arguments on the exile were defeated time and time again, which is why you ran away like a little girl.. Seriously, stop embarassing yourself. Go back to EOD and complain about me like the little ***** that you are.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You're purposely using words that don't give Ragnos the credit. It was Ragnos' great power that was too much for Tavion, not "poisoning".
I wasn't discrediting Ragnos. Mentioning that Tavion's body was poisoned by Ragnos' dark side energy is enough.
This is pointless, it doesn't change the fact that he got his butt kicked by the prodigous Jaden Korr, in a game I enjoyed a few years back.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yea, the good old days when your "exile is a powerhouse!!" arguments were destroyed..
There's no denying she was a powerhouse in her era. Secondly, I only remember arguing for the Exile against Ulic.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
And yet you're still on here embarassing yourself after denying your identity like an idiot. And this coming from someone who has yet to make any cogent arguments here, can we say hypocrite? Your pitiful arguments on the exile were defeated time and time again, which is why you ran away like a little girl.. Seriously, stop embarassing yourself. Go back to EOD and complain about me like the little ***** that you are.
But he has a point your argument that the Exile is average would almost be as ridiculous as arguing that Kotor 1 Revan is average.
In terms of achievements (combat feats especially) and the abilities she posses as a result of being a 'wound' and forming force bonds with ease, make her anything but average but we've had this arguments in the past; no need to beat a dead horse.
Originally posted by Allankles
I wasn't discrediting Ragnos. Mentioning that Tavion's body was poisoned by Ragnos' dark side energy is enough.This is pointless, it doesn't change the fact that he got his butt kicked by the prodigous Jaden Korr, in a game I enjoyed a few years back.
There's no denying she was a powerhouse in her era. Secondly, I only remember arguing for the Exile against Ulic.
Originally posted by Allankles
But he has a point your argument that the Exile is average would almost be as ridiculous as arguing that Kotor 1 Revan is average.
In terms of achievements (combat feats especially) and the abilities she posses as a result of being a 'wound' and forming force bonds with ease, make her anything but average but we've had this arguments in the past; no need to beat a dead horse.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except the argument that the exile is above average has been destroyed countless times. If you want to agree with someone, make sure it's not an incompetent troll.]
Destroyed by what brilliant argument? That you actually believe this bs is what's destructive. You don't even know the definition of an average Jedi. Next thing you'll be saying is that Obi Wan is average. An average Jedi is someone like Juhani. Even Bastilla wouldn't exactly qualify as average, her BM and the fact that she was sent out to lead a strike team to capture Revan suggest she was a little more than average.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
[B]You're right, and each time your argument was destroyed, you came back for more. Being a wound in the force and having 1 innate ability doesn't make you a powerhoues. She's average, get over it.
All you did in that thread is exactly what you're doing now. Make sweeping statements that don't even put the Exile's abilities in perspective. Not many Jedi in the mythos have accomplished what the Exile did, and not many have the Exile's potential either.
Her wound in the force and a her ability to form force bonds (ignoring her skills) were precisely why she was one of the best in her era. Even Mandalore called her an equal to Revan, admitting that he never thought he would see a Jedi that could be comparable to Revan.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except he didn't, seeing as he was a powerless spirit who was called back by his scepter.
Now he's powerless? What happened to the powerful Ragnos you mentioned earlier that was too powerful for Tavion's body to contain? Ignoring that Ragnos was infused by an unknown amount of Dark side energy via the sceptre. Dark side energy that had been siphoned from dark side worlds and places, so he wasn't powerless (unless you want to ignore that he got an amount of dark side energy).
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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
f by her era you mean KOTOR II then sure.
Kotor 2 is not an era it's a short period in time. By era I mean post Sith war to Shadow war era. In the mythos she's up there with Revan as the best of that particular era.
Originally posted by Allankles
Destroyed by what brilliant argument? That you actually believe this bs is what's destructive. You don't even know the definition of an average Jedi. Next thing you'll be saying is that Obi Wan is average. An average Jedi is someone like Juhani. Even Bastilla wouldn't exactly qualify as average, her BM and the fact that she was sent out to lead a strike team to capture Revan suggest she was a little more than average.
All you did in that thread is exactly what you're doing now. Make sweeping statements that don't even put the Exile's abilities in perspective. Not many Jedi in the mythos have accomplished what the Exile did, and not many have the Exile's potential either.
Her wound in the force and a her ability to form force bonds (ignoring her skills) were precisely why she was one of the best in her era. Even Mandalore called her an equal to Revan, admitting that he never thought he would see a Jedi that could be comparable to Revan.