Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
so who wants to end this with neo 6/10 🙂
Depends on the conditions.
If we do this as logically as possible....they can only fight in the real world. Luke wins...even movie Luke wins. That would be Luke 10/0.
If we do this in a place where both parties can fight at full power and get Luke one of them fancy brain thingies, it is Neo 10/0.
If we do the same thing as above except with NJO Luke, it is hard to say. Neo's weakness when he is uber seems to be his own mind reaching exhaustion. We know NJO Luke can take a ridiculous amount of energy, and we also know he can regen himself just like Neo (accept, not from death.). Luke can also fight much faster than Neo can and Luke has his uber precog. It would seem that Luke has got Neo beaten in every category accept for the actual durability of his physical body and physical strength. Luke has shown that he can exert telekinesis to equate that of a black hole. Moving a planet wouldn't be out of the question. Holding Neo, who has not shown the ability to affect anymore than a city block (and that was Smith body slamming him), shouldn't be a problem
Originally posted by dadudemon
Depends on the conditions.If we do this as logically as possible....they can only fight in the real world. Luke wins...even movie Luke wins. That would be Luke 10/0.
If we do this in a place where both parties can fight at full power and get Luke one of them fancy brain thingies, it is Neo 10/0.
If we do the same thing as above except with NJO Luke, it is hard to say. Neo's weakness when he is uber seems to be his own mind reaching exhaustion. We know NJO Luke can take a ridiculous amount of energy, and we also know he can regen himself just like Neo (accept, not from death.). Luke can also fight much faster than Neo can and Luke has his uber precog. It would seem that Luke has got Neo beaten in every category accept for the actual durability of his physical body and physical strength. Luke has shown that he can exert telekinesis to equate that of a black hole. Moving a planet wouldn't be out of the question. Holding Neo, who has not shown the ability to affect anymore than a city block (and that was Smith body slamming him), shouldn't be a problem
what would be the point of having a fight in the real world at all...thats like me saying neo vs. baby luke, no point - dont try and nit-pick like that
we are using conditions established no way around them
and unless you can give a direct quote that luke can d owhat yo usay he can neo has luke beaten
neo 6/10
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
what would be the point of having a fight in the real world at all...thats like me saying neo vs. baby luke, no point - dont try and nit-pick like that
Wrong. There's no way Luke can fight Neo in the Matrix. He simply can't. AC has already pointed this out and done a great job about it. It is not a nit-pick but a damming point in their ability to actually fight.
Just because Luke rapes the crap out of Neo in the real world, doesn't mean you have to get pissy about. Neo is awesome in the Matrix...a computer program.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
we are using conditions established no way around them
Yes, there are. Luke can't fight Neo in the Matrix without a cerebral interface. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and unless you can give a direct quote that luke can d owhat yo usay he can neo has luke beatenneo 6/10
Already been done. I'll do it again.
"Later, Skywalker discovered that the Chazrach were controlled by a beetle-shaped war beast, which came to be known as a Thrall herder. The creature was protected by numerous dovin basals which would intercept missiles and laser blasts directed at it. Luke Skywalker was able to use the Force to seize the black hole and had it suck itself into its own void. As a result, the Chazrach assault force was scattered and began attacking everything that moved, including each other."
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Dantooine_%28Yuuzhan_Vong_War%29
...and about the dovin basal...
"a powerful dovin basal dropped on the surface of a planet could target a moon to slow it's orbit and cause it to crash on the planet, decimating both, in a tactic known as Yo'gand's Core."
These creatures could create black holes.
look ac is offering his own interpretation of the film, but thats just it HIS interpretation
in vs. opics youre oferring a neutral ground where both can use their abilities to the fullest as demonstrated, when neo used th ekind of reality control hes talking about it destroyed his body in the physical world (hes still alive though)
but I prevented neo form using suc ha reality control as it would be an easy win
the fight is as if luke is stationed in the matrix like a normal denizen only with his powers which are solid and cant be done away with
the ifhgt is similar to pitting someone against superman, superman is ESSENTIAL to the dc world and is protected by the source meaning he is actually incapable of dying in the dc world and yet he is still able to be paired in fights
Already been done. I'll do it again."Later, Skywalker discovered that the Chazrach were controlled by a beetle-shaped war beast, which came to be known as a Thrall herder. The creature was protected by numerous dovin basals which would intercept missiles and laser blasts directed at it. Luke Skywalker was able to use the Force to seize the black hole and had it suck itself into its own void. As a result, the Chazrach assault force was scattered and began attacking everything that moved, including each other."
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Batt...han_Vong_War%29
...and about the dovin basal...
"a powerful dovin basal dropped on the surface of a planet could target a moon to slow it's orbit and cause it to crash on the planet, decimating both, in a tactic known as Yo'gand's Core."
These creatures could create black holes.
not clear at all, first the quote makes no mention at all where the black hole came from....not only that if all the black hole could do was pull moons in, that far from moving planets, and again luke didnt move the black hole he manipulated it
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678At last. 😄
look ac is offering his own interpretation of the film, but thats just it HIS interpretationin vs. opics youre oferring a neutral ground where both can use their abilities to the fullest as demonstrated, when neo used th ekind of reality control hes talking about it destroyed his body in the physical world (hes still alive though)
but I prevented neo form using suc ha reality control as it would be an easy win
the fight is as if luke is stationed in the matrix like a normal denizen only with his powers which are solid and cant be done away with
the ifhgt is similar to pitting someone against superman, superman is ESSENTIAL to the dc world and is protected by the source meaning he is actually incapable of dying in the dc world and yet he is still able to be paired in fights
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
not clear at all, first the quote makes no mention at all where the black hole came from....not only that if all the black hole could do was pull moons in, that far from moving planets, and again luke didnt move the black hole he manipulated it
Click the links, dude.
I shouldn't have to spoon feed you the information (even when it was already posted more than once in your own thread) AND wipe your mouth when you dribble. 😆
LOL, I'm just bustin' you ballz.
the Creatures can produce their own mini-black holes. Luke, somehow in a ridiculous way, exerted so much force on the little black holes that he caused them to ......disappear on themselves. Collapse into nothingness...or another dimension. It would take a ridiculous amount of force to do that. Technically, it would take more energy than the entire universe has to offer...so I don't know what the writers were thinking.
He also resisted (held him self in one location) the force push of an entire colony of force users.
Originally posted by Impediment
I've replied.What can another mod do different with my forum?
Keep it open, doesn't bother me. But when you're closing threads because they break the 1 v 1 rule, 3 v 3 rule, "who wins" etc. etc. etc. rule, why keep this one open when it is clearly breaking the "movie characters" rule by having been turned into Neo vs Luke from the EU novels?