Originally posted by ScytheSo forum rules do not apply to you? Must be nice to be a God among mere mortals.
What's that suppose to be for, I don't require that. I've made my decision and nothing will change it. I could care less, I'm done trying to show you the error of your ways, so go about thinking what you do, and I will do the same.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBecause it hasn't been enforced that I can't, that SEVERAL of us can't. Impediment makes the rules, we must follow. If he changes his policy, then I will change my tune.
It doesn't say it's allowed, so then we have to move to the fact that there is a specific Vs forum for every medium: games, comics, Star Wars, movies.Why, then, do you assume you can still do all of that here?
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Am I supposed to fall in line like a good little monkey if Lucas tells me to? If he says that he says that, doesn't mean I have to let him affect my stance.
So essentially, you would look upon the man who created the original characters, the main canon, and tell him that he is wrong to say the E.U. and main series are two entirely different worlds, ie: not connected (Which is what you claim)? They're his characters.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You are like a broken record, and for me to keep answering the same question over and over and over and over and over makes me sound like one.
If you were not being so ridiculously silly as to deny this fact, I'd not repeat it. Of course, you have no counter, just "I don't agree.", which basically means you ignore fact. If it was opinion, you could counter.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, I'M the one who will never admit to being wrong, go with that.
Well, you've been proven factually wrong here step by step, as I have done just now, after claiming it was all my "opinion", so yeah, you're not admitting wrong.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
BTW: You don't seem to accept that fact that you just keep an argument going and going and going until someone gives up, so it appears you have won. Dude and I dont give up, so that's why you target the two of us at random. THAT'S a fact.
I don't care if you give up or not, I don't need to to agree for me to be factually right, I just do this in hopes that you may see sense.
You don't "give up" because I am who I am, and admitting I am right and you are wrong would be equal to asking you to wear a dress and declare yourself a woman.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sigh.......He IS a movie character. We haven't seen NJO Luke in a movie, YET. BUT.....That doesn't change the fact that Luke Skywalker is a movie character, and the EU NJO Luke is an EXTENSION of that character. You act like I am the only one who believes this.
So he's never been in a movie, that incarnation? No.
Then why is he here? Extentions don't count, the extention has never been in a movie. This unofficial, non-canon, basically fan-written extention, has never been in a movie. Therefore, no place.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Take this up with Impediment, not me. You know where I stand.
Have done, and will go higher if he doesn't reply.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because it hasn't been enforced that I can't, that SEVERAL of us can't. Impediment makes the rules, we must follow. If he changes his policy, then I will change my tune.
So you do not see the nonsense in involving a non-canon book character in a movie Vs thread? At all?
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So forum rules do not apply to you? Must be nice to be a God among mere mortals.
No, it's not like that.
It's like this:
I pitted Neo and NJO Luke against eachother. I thought about it, even wrote notes on the pros and cons of each character and I've decided to go for Neo.
Then you complained.
So to spare myself from your posts, I've decided to go with NJO Luke against my beliefs and decisions. He'd totally chop Neo's head off with a lightsaber, Neo can't dodge that.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI wouldn't tell him he is wrong, but I suspect he wouldn't interrogate me as you are doing. Nor would I him.So essentially, you would look upon the man who created the original characters, the main canon, and tell him that he is wrong to say the E.U. and main series are two entirely different worlds, ie: not connected (Which is what you claim)? They're his characters.
If you were not being so ridiculously silly as to deny this fact, I'd not repeat it. Of course, you have no counter, just "I don't agree.", which basically means you ignore fact. If it was opinion, you could counter.I believe it's the same character, plain and simple, cut and dry. You don't. Have you stopped and asked yourself why I am not giving you the third degree about your stance on this?
[b]Well, you've been proven factually wrong here step by step, as I have done just now, after claiming it was all my "opinion", so yeah, you're not admitting wrong.You've proven squat. You have taken a stance, as have I, and you can't imagine why I am taking mine. That really bothers you, doesn't it?
[b]I don't care if you give up or not, I don't need to to agree for me to be factually right, I just do this in hopes that you may see sense.Take care of that chip on your shoulder.You don't "give up" because I am who I am, and admitting I am right and you are wrong would be equal to asking you to wear a dress and declare yourself a woman.
[b]So he's never been in a movie, that incarnation? No.Matter of opinion, that's all. Accept it.Then why is he here? Extentions don't count, the extention has never been in a movie. This unofficial, non-canon, basically fan-written extention, has never been in a movie. Therefore, no place.
[b]Have done, and will go higher if he doesn't reply.As I knew you would. I can see it now, if nothing is done.....Ever see a little kid throwing a tantrum in the toy store?
[b]So you do not see the nonsense in involving a non-canon book character in a movie Vs thread? At all?Nope.-AC
Originally posted by ScytheI never complained, I simply told you that you weren't following the conditions of the thread.
No, it's not like that.It's like this:
I pitted Neo and NJO Luke against eachother. I thought about it, even wrote notes on the pros and cons of each character and I've decided to go for Neo.
Then you complained.
So to spare myself from your posts, I've decided to go with NJO Luke against my beliefs and decisions. He'd totally chop Neo's head off with a lightsaber, Neo can't dodge that.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I wouldn't tell him he is wrong, but I suspect he wouldn't interrogate me as you are doing. Nor would I him.
Well, you couldn't. His word over his characters and his universe, for better OR worse, is his to decide. So you wouldn't tell him he is wrong, so what would you do? You'd pretty much have to agree.
They're his characters, he created and owns them, so when he says they are two different worlds, that means your argument about them being connected, interweaved extentions is null.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I believe it's the same character, plain and simple, cut and dry. You don't. Have you stopped and asked yourself why I am not giving you the third degree about your stance on this?
I don't care, it's not the "same" character. It's the same name, same franchise, not same "character". Not same "credibility".
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You've proven squat. You have taken a stance, as have I, and you can't imagine why I am taking mine. That really bothers you, doesn't it?
You are taking yours because you don't want to admit I am right, I know this, you know this. You said I have over-faith in my opinions, I asked you questions, based off these "opinions", you agreed to facts. Therefore, they obviously aren't opinions are they?
Movie forum? Yes, fact. Agreed by you. Movie VS forum? Yes, fact. Agreed by you. N.J.O. Luke a book, non/inferior/lesser canon (By way of George Lucas) character? Yes, fact. Agreed by you. N.J.O. Luke having NO movie adaptation, nor a movie character? Fact, agreed by you. So, somewhere in there, despite agreeing to all those facts, you still managed to retain the ridiculous idea that his presense here was reasonable.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Matter of opinion, that's all. Accept it.
Matter of opinion what? Whether he deserves to be here? Well, I'll go with you there, just because I can then highlight the fact that you believe a non/inferior/lesser canon book (And only book) character has justified presence in a forum dedicated to movie adaptation/character Vs fights.
An utterly ridiculous stance, but if you are proud to hold such a stance. Go for it. Just don't moan when your mind is not taken seriously.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As I knew you would. I can see it now, if nothing is done.....Ever see a little kid throwing a tantrum in the toy store?
If nothing is done it will remain stupid, but there's nothing I can do. What's your point?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope.
Then you're being stupid.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I never complained, I simply told you that you weren't following the conditions of the thread.
In a complaining sort of way. I gave you my decision, you came back with "not good enough" I changed it, you complained about NJO Luke, my decision changed again in your favor, and you're still complaining.
Originally posted by Scythe
No, it's not like that.It's like this:
I pitted Neo and NJO Luke against eachother. I thought about it, even wrote notes on the pros and cons of each character and I've decided to go for Neo.
Then you complained.
So to spare myself from your posts, I've decided to go with NJO Luke against my beliefs and decisions. He'd totally chop Neo's head off with a lightsaber, Neo can't dodge that.
HOLY SHIT!!!
You took f**kin' notes? I think you've taken this more seriously than I have. lol
No one can accuse you for lack of trying, right? 😄
Originally posted by dadudemon
HOLY SHIT!!!You took f**kin' notes? I think you've taken this more seriously than I have. lol
No one can accuse you for lack of trying, right? 😄
Well I like taking notes, it helps me remember things, there's ALOT of info on NJO Luke, he has alot of abilities I've never heard of and has accomplished alot of things in the novels.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHis word aint law, man. So he created the movies, he didn't create me and would have no impact on how I view them.
Well, you couldn't. His word over his characters and his universe, for better OR worse, is his to decide. So you wouldn't tell him he is wrong, so what would you do? You'd pretty much have to agree.They're his characters, he created and owns them, so when he says they are two different worlds, that means your argument about them being connected, interweaved extentions is null.
I don't care, it's not the "same" character. It's the same name, same franchise, not same "character". Not same "credibility".If that's how you view it, fine.
See how that works?
You are taking yours because you don't want to admit I am right, I know this, you know this. You said I have over-faith in my opinions, I asked you questions, based off these "opinions", you agreed to facts. Therefore, they obviously aren't opinions are they?You think I am taking my stance just to spite you? Dude.......get over yourself.Movie forum? Yes, fact. Agreed by you. Movie VS forum? Yes, fact. Agreed by you. N.J.O. Luke a book, non/inferior/lesser canon (By way of George Lucas) character? Yes, fact. Agreed by you. N.J.O. Luke having NO movie adaptation, nor a movie character? Fact, agreed by you. So, somewhere in there, despite agreeing to all those facts, you still managed to retain the ridiculous idea that his presense here was reasonable.
Matter of opinion what? Whether he deserves to be here? Well, I'll go with you there, just because I can then highlight the fact that you believe a non/inferior/lesser canon book (And only book) character has justified presence in a forum dedicated to movie adaptation/character Vs fights.Not taken seriously by and and a few others who I could care less about. Yeah, I sleep like a baby at night.An utterly ridiculous stance, but if you are proud to hold such a stance. Go for it. Just don't moan when your mind is not taken seriously.
If nothing is done it will remain stupid, but there's nothing I can do. What's your point?This section of KMC is fine, at least it was before you showed up.
Then you're being stupid.don't forget your milk money.-AC
Originally posted by ScytheDude, I kept a cool head the whole time, even when you started hacking on me. Check your emotional baggage at the door please, thank you, come again.
In a complaining sort of way. I gave you my decision, you came back with "not good enough" I changed it, you complained about NJO Luke, my decision changed again in your favor, and you're still complaining.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
His word aint law, man. So he created the movies, he didn't create me and would have no impact on how I view them.If that's how you view it, fine.
See how that works?
You think I am taking my stance just to spite you? Dude.......get over yourself.
Not taken seriously by and and a few others who I could care less about. Yeah, I sleep like a baby at night.
This section of KMC is fine, at least it was before you showed up.
don't forget your milk money.
RJ, I remember back in like 2002 or 03 when George Lucas said that the movies will supersede all EU material if there ever comes a discrepancy.
There is EU canon. So I don't see anything wrong with using Luke's EU abilities...as long as it came from what is generally agreed upon as the EU canon.
However, it is NOT "movies". Since Imp and the thread starter approved it, its is okay to use NJO Luke in this vs. discussion...because there isn't one without him.
Damn...it seems like we are all arguing the same points over and over again. 🙁
Peace out, bros. I am hitting the sack.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, I kept a cool head the whole time, even when you started hacking on me.
If by cool head, you mean not respecting my decision, then yes, you did that.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Check your emotional baggage at the door please, thank you, come again.
I kinda have to be leaving a place for that comment to work, I don't think I stated I was leaving anywhere...
Originally posted by dadudemon
Peace out, bros. I am hitting the sack.
Goodnight.
Originally posted by dadudemonAll I was saying is that I view the SW movies and read the books as I like to, and I am not gonna let anyone, not even Mr. Lucas, affect that.
RJ, I remember back in like 2002 or 03 when George Lucas said that the movies will supersede all EU material if there ever comes a discrepancy.There is EU canon. So I don't see anything wrong with using Luke's EU abilities...as long as it came from what is generally agreed upon as the EU canon.
However, it is NOT "movies". Since Imp and the thread starter approved it, its is okay to use NJO Luke in this vs. discussion...because there isn't one without him.
Damn...it seems like we are all arguing the same points over and over again. 🙁
Peace out, bros. I am hitting the sack.
Originally posted by Scythe👆
If by cool head, you mean not respecting my decision, then yes, you did that.
I kinda have to be leaving a place for that comment to work, I don't think I stated I was leaving anywhere...Right over your head? You DO know I wasn't telling you to leave, dont you? Pretty ballsy for someone to tell someone to leave a thread......
Wait a minute........