Blade vs. Ironfist

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Originally posted by YFZ 350
You're getting schooled and it's not costing you anything jinzin. You should be thankful.

That's about as delusional as you thinking Wolverine wasn't holding back in that fight.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade had just as many missed opportunities as Logan had if you want to break it down and nitpick. They are there. If he was going for the kill he would have stuck him in the kneck from the start instead of stabbing him, or just slit his gut open or his throat. But chose not to because he was measuring him up.

Blade already had him measured. 🤨
He had a dossier on Logan provided to him by SHIELD, written up by friggin Fury... Yeah.. MEASURED.
He could have slashed his throat or gut huh? 😂
Yeah because he was so skilled and so fast he landed the first atta-..doh! No he didn't.
No it's because he's so proficient with swordsmanship that he didn't immediately lose control of his bl-..Doh! Yes he did.
So.. Outside the realm of your fanboy delusions... How was he gonna manage to do that again?

Again, you're giving Blade the benefit of the doubt to say that Blade could have downed Wolverine from the start... Besides your own fanboy interpretation and bias do you have any evidence whatsoever to prove that he not only could, but is even capable of as much?

What was he going to do? Throw the vile at Wolverine? The guy who dices rockets, darts, arrows, and needles out of the air and sees bullets pass by him in slow motion?

You think Blade would have any more luck against Wolverine than Cap did with his shield throw, or that Cyclops did with his eye beams? Both accounts when Wolverine had his back turned to them?.....

What am I asking for? Of course you do, because you like Blade and that's enough isn't it?

Or.... Was he going to run up to Wolverine and inject it into his neck? Funny that, because if that was going to be the strategy, he had that same opportunity with his sword. A longer, more proficient offensive weapon actually capable of defense as well which Blade is most familiar with, and even with that AND a reach advantage Logan landed two warning slices before he was even able to try and block, and Blade started that attack. So why would he fair better with a vile than he did with his sword? Oh that's right because you like Blade and that's enough.

Considering that Blade went for the vile attack and was successful. What then?
Again, how do you know that Wolverine's HF wouldn't completely negate the effects anyways? He had a knockdown drag out fight with a werewolf and he didn't turn into one of them. In fact an organization bent on turning citizens and thus Wolverine into a werewolf couldn't do it with werewolf blood or genetic manipulation, the best result they got out of that was reverting his mentality.... Or how about his fight with Ba'al, a demon vampire God; didn't turn then. When Dracula did turn him it was in the 70's... Yeah, after Fatal Attractions? Xavier outright states that wounds which would have been FATAL before are now only a MOMENTARY annoyance. Wolverine being bitten by Dracula didn't even rank as a fatal attack, it stands to reason that it doesn't even range into the ranks of momentary annoyances... 😬
Then we've got Wolverine's healing factor counteracting symbiotic hosting attempts and him completely no selling the Brood several times, something Ghost Rider couldn't even dowith his mystical healing abilities. But a little vile from Blade'll do the trick right? Because there's so much evidence to support it right? Or is it because you like Blade.. and that's enough.

Considering we give Blade the benefit of the doubt that he did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned... What now? Again we have two different universes where a vampiric Wolverine has taken over Marvel Earth, killing Dracula, turning Juggernaught, one shotting Sym, and disarming a Strange/Punisher hybrid. Dracula even recognizes that Wolverine immediately picked up on vampire tricks that took him eons to learn like shapeshifting and misting out. But Blade turning him into a vampire will be a good choice, effective, and a sure win for Blade right? Why? Is it because a Vampiric Wolverine's shown to be weak and powerless to the likes of Blade? Nah.... Can't be... Maybe it's......Because you like Blade, and that's enough.

Finally if we're to put into consideration that Blade did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned, BUT he didn't turn into the hardcore uber vamp that he did in other universes and was just some lowly vampire, I suppose we're to think that Blade would then be able to draw out a stake and ace him on the spot because Blade said he could right? I mean, ignoring the fact that Wolverine just railed through everything he had without a problem.... I suppose we're supposed to also believe as a vampire Wolverine might lose his sense of skill and thus leave him open to Blade's attacks from there on.... Because it's not like we've seen a similar situation with a brainless Wolverine railing through Cap (also Blades physical equal if not superior as well as a far better h2h combatant) who was trying to dish out all he had right? I suppose we're left to believe that Wolverine totally would have been screwed if Blade was going for the kill. And is that due to the sheer mountain of volumes of overwhelming evidence to support the premise?.... No... It's because you like Blade.. and that's enough. 😐

BTW: School's out... You can run 'long home now and lick your wounds.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
And then there's the panel that shows Blade just standing there while Wolverine just casually walks up to him and slashs Blades face but Blade just rolled with the attack. If Blade were going for the kill he would have followed up that attack with another. Again, he was just toying with Logan.

Or he wasn't prepared for Wolverine to be completely uneffected by his attack...

A follow up attack that would have also been useless as were all hisothers? Yeah Logan'd been screwed then... 🙄

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the perso nwho wrote the fight writes both blade and wolverine, and had blade state they were even so he made an eve nfight between the twoI dont see how you can go against the creators own interpretation of the comic

And Black Panther said he was in no danger after being on the recieving end of both Wolverine and Sabretooth, in spite of thinking differently on one occasion and being dead to rights on the other....

But yeah, he was in no danger...

It doesn't help one to conclude otherwise when in the same comic that shows Wolverine rail through Blade, it ALSO shows Wolverine noncholantly outspeeding and overpowering a vampire that was about to kill Blade.

But Blade thinks they're equal whilst lying on his back disarmed of his primary weaponry, and that's all that matters isn't it? 😉

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Exactly!

If you want to sit there and nit-pick like jinzin does you can find just as many missed shots for Blade as Logan had. Blade had Logan dead to rights. No denying that.

😂

Not when you got your fanboy blade sunglasses on I suppose.

Originally posted by jinzin
That's about as delusional as you thinking Wolverine wasn't holding back in that fight.

Blade already had him measured. 🤨
He had a dossier on Logan provided to him by SHIELD, written up by friggin Fury... Yeah.. MEASURED.
He could have slashed his throat or gut huh? 😂
Yeah because he was so skilled and so fast he landed the first atta-..doh! No he didn't.
No it's because he's so proficient with swordsmanship that he didn't immediately lose control of his bl-..Doh! Yes he did.
So.. Outside the realm of your fanboy delusions... How was he gonna manage to do that again?

Again, you're giving Blade the benefit of the doubt to say that Blade could have downed Wolverine from the start... Besides your own fanboy interpretation and bias do you have any evidence whatsoever to prove that he not only could, but is even capable of as much?

What was he going to do? Throw the vile at Wolverine? The guy who dices rockets, darts, arrows, and needles out of the air and sees bullets pass by him in slow motion?

You think Blade would have any more luck against Wolverine than Cap did with his shield throw, or that Cyclops did with his eye beams? Both accounts when Wolverine had his back turned to them?.....

What am I asking for? Of course you do, because you like Blade and that's enough isn't it?

Or.... Was he going to run up to Wolverine and inject it into his neck? Funny that, because if that was going to be the strategy, he had that same opportunity with his sword. A longer, more proficient offensive weapon actually capable of defense as well which Blade is most familiar with, and even with that AND a reach advantage Logan landed two warning slices before he was even able to try and block, and Blade started that attack. So why would he fair better with a vile than he did with his sword? Oh that's right because you like Blade and that's enough.

Considering that Blade went for the vile attack and was successful. What then?
Again, how do you know that Wolverine's HF wouldn't completely negate the effects anyways? He had a knockdown drag out fight with a werewolf and he didn't turn into one of them. In fact an organization bent on turning citizens and thus Wolverine into a werewolf couldn't do it with werewolf blood or genetic manipulation, the best result they got out of that was reverting his mentality.... Or how about his fight with Ba'al, a demon vampire God; didn't turn then. When Dracula did turn him it was in the 70's... Yeah, after Fatal Attractions? Xavier outright states that wounds which would have been FATAL before are now only a MOMENTARY annoyance. Wolverine being bitten by Dracula didn't even rank as a fatal attack, it stands to reason that it doesn't even range into the ranks of momentary annoyances... 😬
Then we've got Wolverine's healing factor counteracting symbiotic hosting attempts and him completely no selling the Brood several times, something Ghost Rider couldn't even dowith his mystical healing abilities. But a little vile from Blade'll do the trick right? Because there's so much evidence to support it right? Or is it because you like Blade.. and that's enough.

Considering we give Blade the benefit of the doubt that he did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned... What now? Again we have two different universes where a vampiric Wolverine has taken over Marvel Earth, killing Dracula, turning Juggernaught, one shotting Sym, and disarming a Strange/Punisher hybrid. Dracula even recognizes that Wolverine immediately picked up on vampire tricks that took him eons to learn like shapeshifting and misting out. But Blade turning him into a vampire will be a good choice, effective, and a sure win for Blade right? Why? Is it because a Vampiric Wolverine's shown to be weak and powerless to the likes of Blade? Nah.... Can't be... Maybe it's......Because you like Blade, and that's enough.

Finally if we're to put into consideration that Blade did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned, BUT he didn't turn into the hardcore uber vamp that he did in other universes and was just some lowly vampire, I suppose we're to think that Blade would then be able to draw out a stake and ace him on the spot because Blade said he could right? I mean, ignoring the fact that Wolverine just railed through everything he had without a problem.... I suppose we're supposed to also believe as a vampire Wolverine might lose his sense of skill and thus leave him open to Blade's attacks from there on.... Because it's not like we've seen a similar situation with a brainless Wolverine railing through Cap (also Blades physical equal if not superior as well as a far better h2h combatant) who was trying to dish out all he had right? I suppose we're left to believe that Wolverine totally would have been screwed if Blade was going for the kill. And is that due to the sheer mountain of volumes of overwhelming evidence to support the premise?.... No... It's because you like Blade.. and that's enough. 😐

BTW: School's out... You can run 'long home now and lick your wounds.

Like I said you're getting a free lesson.

It's plainly obvious is you wanna sit down and dissect this fight you can see missed points on both sides. If Blade was going all out it would have stabbed his throat from the start or slashed his throat. Blade knows how Logan's powers work so why would he even try and stab him with a sword? Blade was just softening him up for the final strike. The same with the gun shots. If he was trying to put Logan down he would have shot him in the eye's or throat, but he didn't. Blade was toying with Logan.

It's all right in front of you but you're too biased to see it. How do I know this? Well you clearly don't respect Blade as you've made clear. However I respect bothof these guys.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Like I said you're getting a free lesson.

The onl thing you're showing me or teaching me is the endess bounds to Blade fanboysm. 😐

Originally posted by YFZ 350
It's plainly obvious is you wanna sit down and dissect this fight you can see missed points on both sides.

No you can't. The only way that's even possible is if you're giving Blade the benefit of the doubt to perform better than he did in their fight. The only "points" Blade missed are ones that his fans fabricrate for him.

It's a fact that Logan hit him twice before Blade put up a defense.
It's a fact that Logan hit him in th face and retracted his claws to do it.

It's speculation that Blade would have or could have done anything you keep insisting he could. And, with the results of the fight, and Wolverin having to save Blade in the same comic, it's not even good speculation at that....

Originally posted by YFZ 350
If Blade was going all out it would have stabbed his throat from the start or slashed his throat. Blade knows how Logan's powers work so why would he even try and stab him with a sword? Blade was just softening him up for the final strike. The same with the gun shots. If he was trying to put Logan down he would have shot him in the eye's or throat, but he didn't. Blade was toying with Logan.

Originally posted by jinzin
He could have slashed his throat or gut huh? 😂
Yeah because he was so skilled and so fast he landed the first atta-..doh! No he didn't.
No it's because he's so proficient with swordsmanship that he didn't immediately lose control of his bl-..Doh! Yes he did.
So.. Outside the realm of your fanboy delusions... How was he gonna manage to do that again?

And.. more just giving Blade the benefit of the doubt....

Originally posted by jinzin
It's all right in front of you but you're too biased to see it. How do I know this? Well you clearly don't respect Blade as you've made clear. However I respect [b]bothof these guys. [/B]

Well aside from the fact that I don't think I've shown any disrespect for the character just because I'm not under the same delusions you apparently are, I don't have to respect a character to admit defeat or claim victory for Wolverine.

I don't respect Squirrel Girl, but she's most definitely take Logan down.
I don't respect Toad but it's not my bias that makes me say Wolverine wins. You're grasping for straws, ignoring my post, and trying to discredit my opinion when my opinion's backed with multitudes of evidence... and yours?

Well... "You like Blade and that's enough."

I'm not grasping for straws man. If Blade had any intentions of killing Logan he would have just did that from the start. It's right there in front of you. Blade was just softening Logan up for the final assault. If Blade was going for the instant kill why would he just sit there and let Logan walk up to him and try and slash him with his claws? Or why would Blade empty out a clip into his adamantium chest fully knowing it isn't going to do jack against him? Why would Blade just stab him in the gut knowing it won't slow him? Once Blade took the kid gloves off Logan had no choice but to back off. It's right there in the comic.

Jesus ****, guys.

There's a Wolverine vs. Blade thread. Stop spamming.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
I'm not grasping for straws man. If Blade had any intentions of killing Logan he would have just did that from the start. It's right there in front of you.

Except for....

Originally posted by jinzin
That's about as delusional as you thinking Wolverine wasn't holding back in that fight.

Blade already had him measured. 🤨
He had a dossier on Logan provided to him by SHIELD, written up by friggin Fury... Yeah.. MEASURED.
He could have slashed his throat or gut huh? 😂
Yeah because he was so skilled and so fast he landed the first atta-..doh! No he didn't.
No it's because he's so proficient with swordsmanship that he didn't immediately lose control of his bl-..Doh! Yes he did.
So.. Outside the realm of your fanboy delusions... How was he gonna manage to do that again?

Again, you're giving Blade the benefit of the doubt to say that Blade could have downed Wolverine from the start... Besides your own fanboy interpretation and bias do you have any evidence whatsoever to prove that he not only could, but is even capable of as much?

What was he going to do? Throw the vile at Wolverine? The guy who dices rockets, darts, arrows, and needles out of the air and sees bullets pass by him in slow motion?

You think Blade would have any more luck against Wolverine than Cap did with his shield throw, or that Cyclops did with his eye beams? Both accounts when Wolverine had his back turned to them?.....

What am I asking for? Of course you do, because you like Blade and that's enough isn't it?

Or.... Was he going to run up to Wolverine and inject it into his neck? Funny that, because if that was going to be the strategy, he had that same opportunity with his sword. A longer, more proficient offensive weapon actually capable of defense as well which Blade is most familiar with, and even with that AND a reach advantage Logan landed two warning slices before he was even able to try and block, and Blade started that attack. So why would he fair better with a vile than he did with his sword? Oh that's right because you like Blade and that's enough.

Considering that Blade went for the vile attack and was successful. What then?
Again, how do you know that Wolverine's HF wouldn't completely negate the effects anyways? He had a knockdown drag out fight with a werewolf and he didn't turn into one of them. In fact an organization bent on turning citizens and thus Wolverine into a werewolf couldn't do it with werewolf blood or genetic manipulation, the best result they got out of that was reverting his mentality.... Or how about his fight with Ba'al, a demon vampire God; didn't turn then. When Dracula did turn him it was in the 70's... Yeah, after Fatal Attractions? Xavier outright states that wounds which would have been FATAL before are now only a MOMENTARY annoyance. Wolverine being bitten by Dracula didn't even rank as a fatal attack, it stands to reason that it doesn't even range into the ranks of momentary annoyances... 😬
Then we've got Wolverine's healing factor counteracting symbiotic hosting attempts and him completely no selling the Brood several times, something Ghost Rider couldn't even dowith his mystical healing abilities. But a little vile from Blade'll do the trick right? Because there's so much evidence to support it right? Or is it because you like Blade.. and that's enough.

Considering we give Blade the benefit of the doubt that he did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned... What now? Again we have two different universes where a vampiric Wolverine has taken over Marvel Earth, killing Dracula, turning Juggernaught, one shotting Sym, and disarming a Strange/Punisher hybrid. Dracula even recognizes that Wolverine immediately picked up on vampire tricks that took him eons to learn like shapeshifting and misting out. But Blade turning him into a vampire will be a good choice, effective, and a sure win for Blade right? Why? Is it because a Vampiric Wolverine's shown to be weak and powerless to the likes of Blade? Nah.... Can't be... Maybe it's......Because you like Blade, and that's enough.

Finally if we're to put into consideration that Blade did attack with his vile, AND faired better with it than his sword, AND Logan was turned, BUT he didn't turn into the hardcore uber vamp that he did in other universes and was just some lowly vampire, I suppose we're to think that Blade would then be able to draw out a stake and ace him on the spot because Blade said he could right? I mean, ignoring the fact that Wolverine just railed through everything he had without a problem.... I suppose we're supposed to also believe as a vampire Wolverine might lose his sense of skill and thus leave him open to Blade's attacks from there on.... Because it's not like we've seen a similar situation with a brainless Wolverine railing through Cap (also Blades physical equal if not superior as well as a far better h2h combatant) who was trying to dish out all he had right? I suppose we're left to believe that Wolverine totally would have been screwed if Blade was going for the kill. And is that due to the sheer mountain of volumes of overwhelming evidence to support the premise?.... No... It's because you like Blade.. and that's enough. 😐

so... no.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade was just softening Logan up for the final assault.

😂

Yeah, that's what happened. 😆

And what a fine job he was doing too.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
If Blade was going for the instant kill why would he just sit there and let Logan walk up to him and try and slash him with his claws?

I thought you ratinalized that he rolled with the claw strike, aside from that it's already been explained to you. I don't think another explanation's going to sink in past your rampant fanboyism

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Or why would Blade empty out a clip into his adamantium chest fully knowing it isn't going to do jack against him?

Cause he didn't have his sword anymore.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Why would Blade just stab him in the gut knowing it won't slow him?
Perhaps he thought different. Perhaps he didn't realize how uneffected Wolverine would be because he was reading KMC forums where Wolverine anti-fans kept insisting one blade slash or gunshot could put him down.
Or maybe everything in a fight doesn't go the way you planned when you realize your opponent's about 4 times more deadly than you anticipated them to be.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Once Blade took the kid gloves off Logan had no choice but to back off. It's right there in the comic.
😂 and you say I look at this stuff with bias?

Yes... Logan really looks like he was shakin in his boots and backing down huh... 🙄

The only reason Blade even had a CHANCE to look better than a punching bag in that fight to his fanboys was because Wolverine let him. Honestly you people think Blade was going to inject him AND THEN succeed in pulling out a stake to dust him before Logan could decapitate him?

Oh right, you do....

Because you like Blade... and that's enough.

Originally posted by Soljer
Jesus ****, guys.

There's a Wolverine vs. Blade thread. Stop spamming.

True... YF if you want to continue this please do so in the other thread...

All that said.... Iron Fist wins all day every day.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
I'm not grasping for straws man. If Blade had any intentions of killing Logan he would have just did that from the start. It's right there in front of you. Blade was just softening Logan up for the final assault. If Blade was going for the instant kill why would he just sit there and let Logan walk up to him and try and slash him with his claws? Or why would Blade empty out a clip into his adamantium chest fully knowing it isn't going to do jack against him? Why would Blade just stab him in the gut knowing it won't slow him? Once Blade took the kid gloves off Logan had no choice but to back off. It's right there in the comic.
Yea, I reckon Blade being forced into battle against his will had something to do against him going easy on Logan at the start. I've never seen Blade fight so passively in a battle that he was suppose to be going all out in. I don't even think he was vamping out either. I don't recall him showing the fangs during the battle but I could be wrong.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea, I reckon Blade being forced into battle against his will had something to do against him going easy on Logan at the start. I've never seen Blade fight so passively in a battle that he was suppose to be going all out in. I don't even think he was vamping out either. I don't recall him showing the fangs during the battle but I could be wrong.
I don't think he was vamping out during the battle either. That right there is another sign he wasn't going for the kill.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
I don't think he was vamping out during the battle either. That right there is another sign he wasn't going for the kill.
That's one of the only fights Blade has been in where he wasn't fighting with the fangs showing. When he fought Spiderman and Dracula a few issues before he was vamping out big time. He won those fights.

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
hahahahahahahahaahhahahahaha
😕

Oh this thread is amusing and the reasoning of the blade fans is astounding.

well if blade beat dracula (who gave Apoc trouble), then Wolverine's gonna have his hands full

Originally posted by Master-Borg
well if blade beat dracula (who gave Apoc trouble), then Wolverine's gonna have his hands full

................thats awful logic.

Logan beaten hulk, herc ect. Fought pheonix, beat a clone of Appoc ect.

just becauses blade beat drac is an awful reason to assume he going to give wolverine trouble.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Logan beaten hulk, herc ect.

really...when did Logan beat Hulk?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
really...when did Logan beat Hulk?

in hulk 340.

in wolverine vs hulk issue 8 skrull wolverine beat hulk.

wolverine as death could have killed hulk, but regained enough controll to stop himself.