Cyclops vs. Batman

"Cyclops' beams move at the speed of light"

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No, they don't.

Why?

Because people have dodged them in the past.

Can't take that little fact?

Too bad, I guess.

[Marvel should really read up on what "logic" is - Just for their own sake]

Batman 7/10.

Cyclops' lasers are quicker than your average laser, but it wouldn't be something Batman would have a great deal of trouble getting past, all the while Bruce is closing in on Cyclops and vice versa.

They are then in H2H distance, where Batman takes the majority of fights.

Let me just remind you M-fanboys again, just so you remember:

If people can avoid Cyclops' beams, they don't travel at the speed of f**king light, do they?!

Why wouldn't Scott use wide blasts?

All i gotta say baout them getting in hand to hand distance is that an optic blast is gonna come alot faster then a strike from batman, and also alot more devasting

Originally posted by jalek moye
All i gotta say baout them getting in hand to hand distance is that an optic blast is gonna come alot faster then a strike from batman, and also alot more devasting

That true, here scan showing scott concentrating to cut the cookie perfectly with his thoughts. This will be fatal in his H2H combat with Batman

Cyclop does pretty well fighting H2H as well, if Batman get close he can always defend himself to ready himself for optic blast or evade.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Well one person is realizing the outcome. Couple more to go.

YES CYCLOP CAN FIGHT* pretty well I might add
Here a Link to Cyclop fighting a group of thugs, while blind
http://www.mutanthigh.com/games/martialarts/fight6.html

Here a scan of Cyclop fighting blind with sword against monster.

Cyclop being Durable
*take take-down from Colossus, broke a rib ouch!

Even with broken ribs he blast Colossus away and hitting even Night Crawler(*agility teleportation) and other X-men at the sametime, who said he stand and blast Batman*

Sentinel pimp slap Cyclop and he takes its and then retaliates


He dodge lightingbolts from Storm, when he was accused of betraying the X-men and hit her with pinpoint accuracy from afar.

Feats showing Cyclop tactics during Battle!
Piss Wolverine to release his stress, dodges Wolverine intent to kill Cyclop with ease.

Using his head during battle, he grasp his environment to his advantage.

and here

Taking all this in, Batman chances in straight up fight will be difficult. 7/10 for cyclop. First Batman has to pass cyclop beams which are accurate. Cyclop can also defend himself in H2H combat and dodge and step back for another blast.

Originally posted by The Heap
"Cyclops' beams move at the speed of light"

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No, they don't.

Why?

Because people have dodged them in the past.

Can't take that little fact?

Too bad, I guess.

[Marvel should really read up on what "logic" is - Just for their own sake]

Batman 7/10.

Cyclops' lasers are quicker than your average laser, but it wouldn't be something Batman would have a great deal of trouble getting past, all the while Bruce is closing in on Cyclops and vice versa.

They are then in H2H distance, where Batman takes the majority of fights.

Let me just remind you M-fanboys again, just so you remember:

If people can avoid Cyclops' beams, they don't travel at the speed of f**king light, do they?!

"Lasers move at the speed of light."

No, they don't.

Why? Because Batman and other human characters have dodged them in the past. Can't take that little fact? Too bad, I guess.

Let me just remind you Batman-fanboys again, just so you remember:

If Batman can avoid laser beams, they don't travel at the speed of f**king light, do they?!

DC should really read up on what "logic" is - Just for their own sake.

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Dude, they're f***ing comics. Writers are gonna hype up their characters by having them do s*** they've no business even attempting to pull off and BS us all with a bunch of pseudoscience. If you throw out that Batman's bullet/laser dodging is generally accepted part of his character, then you can't object to the generally accepted notion of Cyclops' optic blasts moving at the speed of light. I don't think anyone here has demonstrated much fanboyism. Each case for Cyclops was addressed logically by one person or another. On the other hand, those arguing for Batman seem to give Batman the win simply because he's Batman.

Logically?

Those arguing for Cyclops say that his beams are as fast as the speed of light when people have infact dodged said laser beams.

Doesn't sound logical to me.

The Batman fans in this thread have admitted Scott could kill Batman if he use's a wide beam attack.

No Cyclops fanoy has admitted Batman could kick Cyclops' ass.

You were saying?

the reason he cant kick cyclops ass up close is that he wont be able to dodge an optic blast when its that close to him. And even if by some chance he hit scott before he could shoot one it wouldn't drop him and all he has to do is look at batman at close range.

Originally posted by The Heap
Logically?

Those arguing for Cyclops say that his beams are as fast as the speed of light when people have infact dodged said laser beams.

Doesn't sound logical to me.

The Batman fans in this thread have admitted Scott could kill Batman if he use's a wide beam attack.

No Cyclops fanoy has admitted Batman could kick Cyclops' ass.

You were saying?

You missed the point, and not just mine. Most people here admit Batman would beat Cyclops in pure h2h. It's pointless to debate otherwise. However, what most here are saying is that it won't get to that point-- Batman just won't be able to close the gap, and would be beaten soundly due to the power, speed, and range of the optic blast.

The point of my rant was to show how you only question the speed of the optic blast but not of the laser beam, the latter of which moves at the speed of light in the real world, yet you think it's perfectly acceptable to believe Batman (a normal human-- peak human condition or not) could dodge a laser? Using your logic, either Batman can move faster than light, or the laser is not as fast as light. Either claim is RIDICULOUS, yet you're using it only for one side of the debate and not the other.

i can do more

running between bullets:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=detectivecomics577199ik.jpg

dodged deadshot pointblank range(although the subconsciously pulling shots things come into play,it's still quite a feat):
http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc70&image=508_batshot.jpg

By Forum Rules;

Both combatants are in character, Cyke is Famous for holding back the full force of his Optic Blast. Cyke will NOT be using the Arena Blast.

Batman is in character and will not be utilising BFR the moment the bell rings.

IMO. Cyclops and Batman are EQUAL in RANGE.

Batman has the edge in versatility.

An explosive batarang thrown like a boomerang will take Cyke out of the fight.

* how stubborn... the moment the match starts, Cyclops will hit Batman even before he throws any gadget, can't you understand? 😐

In your scenario Batman is standing still. That is out of character.

Originally posted by namorsubby
running between bullets:

dodged deadshot pointblank range(although the subconsciously pulling shots things come into play,it's still quite a feat):

Scan#2 is interesting, Deadshot missing near point blank is good feat, but Cyclop aim marker is his vision. Given that Batman fist was in Deadshot view, Cyclop could of blasted off his fist or look down for final blow. 🤣

By forum rules characters are also using their powers to the best of their abilities, which means Cyclops has every reason to be using wide blasts.

In That Case Batman 10/10 via BFR boomtube or BFR Jla Teleport.

Here another nice scan of Scott consecutive beam

To use your own logic, using of those against a human level character is OOC for Batman, Cyclops on the other hand has used blasts against human level people.

Originally posted by Silent Master
To use your own logic, using of those against a human level character is OOC for Batman, Cyclops on the other hand has used blasts against human level people.

Shiv or me? 🙁

Originally posted by vansonbee
Shiv or me? 🙁

Shiv