i've checked several magneto bios after someone told me he had superhuman speed, not true.
"SLIIIIIIIM CHANCE"? the feats definitely say otherwise.and if he can dodge supergirls or TT superman's once, i'm pretty sure he can evade cyclops more effectively.the feats say he can take this, not me.........well actually i say he can take this because the feats say so.
you are quickly becoming my new favorite debator around here. Keep up the good work.
thanks............i think. 😕
Originally posted by namorsubby
i've checked several magneto bios after someone told me he had superhuman speed, not true."SLIIIIIIIM CHANCE"? the feats definitely say otherwise.and if he can dodge supergirls or TT superman's [b]once
, i'm pretty sure he can evade cyclops more effectively.the feats say he can take this, not me.........well actually i say he can take this because the feats say so.thanks............i think. 😕 [/B]
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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Cyke, while not peak human, is still pretty damn close. He would be considered top-tier athletic. Out of all the X-Men, he works out the hardest, not just in strength but in every physical aspect (speed, agility, endurance, reflexes, etc.).
oh and he does not work the hardest. Wolverine for one trains far more, and puts his body through far more extremes.
Originally posted by Battlehammerresorting to insults isn't a nice and effective way to debate.let's keep it mature guys, shall we?
how the hell does he get blid sided? That might have been the dumbest thing ive ever heard............how does one get blind sided when there staring straight at there opponet and shooting a blast then engulfs the entire battle field?
cyke has to take off his visor, batman could hit him before he achieved that. i would go as far to say a bit more, seeing as i posted a scan of batman hitting a meta who makes forcefields with his mind before he could think to make one........but that's pushing it. already walking on eggshells here.😆
Originally posted by Metalmanxcyclops has also been dodged by others much slower than them, like magneto, so i guess your point is..........moot or whatever. contradictions contradicitons 😆
Ah, nice editing job there. 😉Except we have refuted them. Without calling it PIS even. All we've done is shown you more than one feat of Cyke hitting someone with SUPER-SPEED AND SUPER-REFLEXES (Quicksilver and Northstar). So, unless you honestly believe that Batman can move faster than either of these two, you're point is moot. You can show Batman dodging lasers all day long, but unless that equates to him having super-speed+super-reflexes, it just ain't cutting it.
Wow namorsubby. Your like the O'Reilly of vs. topics. CYKE does not have to take off his visor to do large area attacks. Also I was under the impression that PIS is not involved in vs. topics. To say that batman can dodge a city block leveling beam that travels close if not at light speeds would be PIS. Your speaking of Batman as a protagonist in his own book. Of course he'se gonna do some impressive stuff, some of which is PIS and go against his physical abilities. It's one thing to say batman can anticipate a beam at light speed, you seem to be claiming he can move faster than thought and light though.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That incorrect He not a top tier athlet. He a good athlet, but there are many far better then he who are not peak-human.oh and he does not work the hardest. Wolverine for one trains far more, and puts his body through far more extremes.
Lordy. You know that Cyke trains harder. I didn't say that he puts his body through more extremes. I know that Wolverine does that. Because he can. But Cyke is easily the hardest-training X-Men member. But I know it's futile to argue with you.
And I also never said he was THE top-tier athlete. I know others, like Daredevil and Moonknight for instance, are better than him. But that doesn't mean he's still not on the same tier. AT THE LEAST, he's just a single tier below DD and MK if it's going to upset you that much.
But honestly, it's not really the point. So I'm not sure why you took the time to refute it (well, I do actually--you wanted to state another aspect in which Wolverine is superior).
Originally posted by namorsubby
resorting to insults isn't a nice and effective way to debate.let's keep it mature guys, shall we?
Originally posted by namorsubby
cyke has to take off his visor, batman could hit him before he achieved that.
........not if there 20 plus feet away...........
oh and scot has no need to take the visor off he can open the visor mentally..........
Originally posted by razor4lifegood thing things aren't always what they seem.
Wow namorsubby. Your like the O'Reilly of vs. topics. CYKE does not have to take off his visor to do large area attacks. Also I was under the impression that PIS is not involved in vs. topics. To say that batman can dodge a city block leveling beam that travels close if not at light speeds would be PIS. Your speaking of Batman as a protagonist in his own book. Of course he'se gonna do some impressive stuff, some of which is PIS and go against his physical abilities. It's one thing to say batman can anticipate a beam at light speed, you seem to be claiming he can move faster than thought and light though.
i already explained that batman isn't faster than a lot of the stuff he dodges and why he dodges, and i don't know why you guys act like it's only batman, because every peak human i've seen does it too.it's not like i made up a theory of my own to explain why he, along with all the other peak humans, do that. it's in the bios, it's in the books.it seemed a few are attempting to shoot the messager here.
Originally posted by BattlehammerLike he acknowledge that, I posted a scan of that proving he can mentally control his optic blast.
It not an insult it a fact. That was one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard on this forum....................not if there 20 plus feet away...........
oh and scot has no need to take the visor off he can open the visor mentally..........
Originally posted by Battlehammerlike i said, try to play nice and be a little grown up, for the thread's sake. we don't won't moronic irrelevant comments interfering with other's ability to stay on subject............like right now.
It not an insult it a fact. That was one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard on this forum............
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Lordy. You know that Cyke trains harder. I didn't say that he puts his body through more extremes. I know that Wolverine does that. Because he can. But Cyke is easily the hardest-training X-Men member. But I know it's futile to argue with you.
I am not sure were you get your info from that scot trains the hardest, because your wrong. It never been stated or implied, nor has he shown to train more. That’s your opinion which has no factual evidences.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And I also never said he was THE top-tier athlete. I know others, like Daredevil and Moonknight for instance, are better than him. But that doesn't mean he's still not on the same tier. AT THE LEAST, he's just a single tier below DD and MK if it's going to upset you that much.
Again I not sure were the hell you get your info.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
But honestly, it's not really the point. So I'm not sure why you took the time to refute it (well, I do actually--you wanted to state another aspect in which Wolverine is superior).
Scot trains hard and is one of the hardest training x-men, but he not they hardest training x-men and you had no evidences for basing such an opinion.
The you stated scot a top tier athlet which again is wrong and again you have no evidences for which you based your opinion on. His feats are nothing compared to vast amount of street leveler in physical prowess’s.
Originally posted by namorsubby
like i said, try to play nice and be a little grown up, for the thread's sake. we don't won't moronic irrelevant comments interfering with other's ability to stay on subject............like right now.
Originally posted by vansonbeei didn't see that.
Like he acknowledge that, I posted a scan of that proving he can mentally control his optic blast.
what is up with you guys?
i believe it was some guy who said, "can't we all just get along?". if you don't agree with me, that's fine. i don't discredit or try to personally target anyone for disagreeing with me here.i'd like it if i could be allowed the same luxury.
oh, and i'm speaking in general, not specifically to you.
Originally posted by Battlehammerok so now he's staring at him already firing? who said........WTF is going on here?
lol says the man who stated batman would some how blind side a man who is staring at him and firing a beam which engulfs the areana.........
so you made up a little scenario of your own? i just said batman is fast enough to hit him befoere he takes his visor off it's more of a general statement and less of a "this is exactly why batman will win" statement.
Originally posted by namorsubby
ok so now he's staring at him already firing? who said........WTF is going on here?so you made up a little scenario of your own? i just said batman is fast enough to hit him befoere he takes his visor off it's more of a general statement and less of a "this is exactly why batman will win" statement.
Originally posted by namorsubby
come on, cyke, a [b]human with human resistance taking hits from those guys? he's not even peak human resistance level. [/B]
Actually Cyke is a mutant. Batman has taken a hit from The Hulk and got sent through a wall, yet he was still conscious and lived, but I'm sure thats all good. Cyclops has good resistance.
Originally posted by Battlehammermaybe you didn't see the scan. batman threw a batarang and hit some meta who can make forcefields with his mind........before he could think to do that.
Batman not fast enoguh though...........you know how much distances abtman woudl need to cover? Have you ever read the rules of the forum? They start a good distances away.
