Cyclops vs. Batman

Originally posted by shiv
In your scenario Batman is standing still. That is out of character.

* while in your scenario, it was Cyke who was standing still? and as if Cyke cannot hit a moving target...

Originally posted by The Heap
Scott shouldn't even be able to see if he has these "huge, wide" beams of energy blocking his sight, coming from out of his eye's.

* 🤨 seriously, do you even know the nature of Cyclops' mutant ability?

Originally posted by namorsubby
if you're refering to those scans or my argument. i in no way meant to say that batman evades things that are humanly impossible to evade because he can "sense" them. he anticipates them.like it's been said many times before. he moves were he thinks he'll be out of range before anything even transpires,so it looks like he dodged it. it has become second nature and instinct to him so now he's much more effective at it.[b]that's what i meant. [/B]

* a person with an uncanny ability of spatial awareness is more experienced in anticipating things... by ricocheting his blasts, Cyke would be able to make a maze/barrage of optic blasts which is impossible for Batsy to dodge or anticipate...

like thpse security lasers were......or supposedly were.lol

Originally posted by peejayd
* while in your scenario, it was Cyke who was standing still? and as if Cyke cannot hit a moving target...

Originally posted by shiv
By Forum Rules;

Both combatants are in character, Cyke is Famous for holding back the full force of his Optic Blast. Cyke will NOT be using the Arena Blast.

Batman is in character and will not be utilising BFR the moment the bell rings.

IMO. Cyclops and Batman are EQUAL in RANGE.

Batman has the edge in versatility.

An explosive batarang thrown like a boomerang will take Cyke out of the fight.

When did I say Cyclops would be standing still.

Both characters are mobile.

Cyke cannot disguise his optic blast attack
Batman is versatile and can disguise the flight of an exploding batarang by detonating a flash bang/releasing decoys mid-leap angling the primary attack wide of Cyclops precise blasts with a ricochet effect.

* however, Cyclops would blast Batman even before he disguises anything... 🙂

Originally posted by peejayd
* however, Cyclops would blast Batman even before he disguises anything... 🙂

I don't understand how people aren't getting this. 🙁

Because this is a forum fight with two mobile combatants neither of whom are stupid.

the Bat has a variety of ranged weapons at his disposal some of which can obscure Cyke's vision.

It is in character for Batman, a stealth fighter With infra red tech to blind Cyke at the start of the fight.

If this tactic fails The cloak can be used offensively during leaping clear of Cykes optic blasts to disguise a dart fired at Scott's femoral artery or a concussive force batarang curled with a boomerang effect to detonate behind cyclops.

Defensively The cloak has stood up to Darkseids Parademons weapons fire, omac optic blasts, The Demon Etrigans fire, Dr Phosphorus's Radiation, Xenomorph Acid and Kryptonian Heat vision. It will protect The Bat from At Least One full power point blank Optic Blast IF he decides to close the distance and make it a pro wrestling contest or feign defeat.

Originally posted by shiv
Because this is a forum fight with two mobile combatants neither of whom are stupid.

* first of all, we are not taking anything away from Batman, he is what he is, *sigh* he is as many others said, the pinnacle of human perfection... but he just cannot evade/dodge an optic blast accurately fired by Cyclops...

* sure, Batman can move, but don't tell me you are going to argue that Cyclops cannot hit a moving target? heck, his arsenal is his eyes and the blast travels more or less the speed of light...

Originally posted by shiv
the Bat has a variety of ranged weapons at his disposal some of which can obscure Cyke's vision.

* true, that is correct... however, if you are saying neither of them (Cyclops & Batman) are stupid, the moment the match starts, Cyclops would hit Batman even before Batman has a chance to throw anything to distract Cyclops...

* don't tell me you are going to argue that Batman throwing a gadget is faster than Cyclops firing an optic blast?

Originally posted by shiv
It is in character for Batman, a stealth fighter With infra red tech to blind Cyke at the start of the fight.

* how in the blue hell can Batman do that? if Cyclops would hit him the first nanosecond of the match?

Originally posted by shiv
If this tactic fails The cloak can be used offensively during leaping clear of Cykes optic blasts to disguise a dart fired at Scott's femoral artery or a concussive force batarang curled with a boomerang effect to detonate behind cyclops.

Defensively The cloak has stood up to Darkseids Parademons weapons fire, omac optic blasts, The Demon Etrigans fire, Dr Phosphorus's Radiation, Xenomorph Acid and Kryptonian Heat vision. It will protect The Bat from At Least One full power point blank Optic Blast IF he decides to close the distance and make it a pro wrestling contest or feign defeat.

* is cloaking device a part of Batman's regular/standard equipment he carries every single time? the match has no prep, mind you... if you want gadget prep, Cyclops can acquire several add-ons in his visor too, with advanced Shi'ar technology... 🙂

Originally posted by peejayd
if you want gadget prep, Cyclops can acquire several add-ons in his visor too, with advanced Shi'ar technology... 🙂

Woah, scans?

* it really is capable of add-ons... currently, the visor is thought-controlled and neural-activated... 🙂

* add-ons, i mean like having night vision/infra-red or something like that... 🙂

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What is it about Cyclops that makes it so impossible for him to beat Batman?

i'd ask the same thing, in reverse.

cyke is definitely capable of beating batman.but he's definitely not beyond losing to him.he doesn't even seem to be, which is less than true of many of the characters batman has conquered.

I don't think anyone said it was impossible for him to do so. Its just that he isn't taking the majority especially since we saw that Slim was able to put him down in the crossover. Without time to plan, Bats is screwed in the majority of fights. Cyclops has been shown to be durable enough to take a few batarangs to the face and he can keep the distance between them.

i doubt cyke could take a batarang to the face and not be unconscious, or a bat-kick.lol

seriously though, if a batarang were to hit him, i think it would put him down

Originally posted by namorsubby
i doubt cyke could take a batarang to the face and not be unconscious, or a bat-kick.lol

Well he got pimp-slapped by a sentinel before and was still conscious. Is a batarang stronger than a sentinel?

EDIT: Also hit by colossus and other high class power guys. I'm sorry but if Cyke can't take a batarang to the face by your logic then Bruce can't take an optic blast to the face.

Yea, I gotta go with Wei here. You're putting a lot of support behind these 1-hit KO batarangs here, especially when Cyke's been shown to take some pretty extreme punishment and remain conscious. Cyke, however, can literally demolish Batman with a single shot. Almost 100% guaranteed.

Lemme ask you something, namorsubby. This is merely for my curiosity (as I'm at work and need something to keep me distracted). Say you were given Cyclops' powers, just his powers alone (but you have mastered how to use them and you have a the visor) and not his other abilities/skills/experience/etc. then pitted against Batman in this situation. Batman is trying to kill you. You know this. Do you think you could personally stop Batman before he takes you out?

batman is trying to kill me? what?fear 😆

just kidding but yeah if cyke thought bats was trying to killl him he'd peobably do much better than if they were to engage in a "normal" match, unless he underestimates a crazy in a batsuit(which is not improbable).

BTW: i wasn't saying it was likely batman would hit cyke with a batarang, but seeing as cyke only has human resistance, i don't think it would be hard for batman to one-shot him if he did manage to hit him with one. many human and super human have fallen before the mighty batarang....... 🙄

Originally posted by namorsubby
batman is trying to kill me? what?fear 😆

just kidding but yeah if cyke thought bats was trying to killl him he'd peobably do much better than normal, unless he underestimates a crazy in a batsuit(which is not improbable).

BTW: i wasn't saying it was likely batman would hit cyke with a batarang, but seeing as cyke only has human resistance, i don't think it would be hard for batman to one-shot him if he did manage to hit him with one. many human and super human have fallen before the mighty batarang....... 🙄

Well as I've said he has taken blows from sentinels, Wolverine, Juggernaut, Colossus, Apocalypse and many more to the face and body and refused to go down. I think all of the mentioned characters have more power than a batarang, unless taking a slap from a sentinel is bad writing. The guy took his whole team out with broken ribs.

Originally posted by namorsubby
batman is trying to kill me? what?fear 😆

many human and super human have fallen before the mighty batarang....... 🙄

And Batman has fallen to the mighty optic blast