Predators

Started by jalek moye31 pages

Originally posted by The Nuul
Just saw it, it was good the story and score is almost done exactly done like Predator. The disappointments are what Darth Martin has just said....

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The honor code has been stripped apparently. They kill unarmed combatants with plasma casters, and kill people who have surrendered. I'm not sure if that was the way of the "radical" Yautja but.....

The Yautja were incompotent, weak, slow, and rather.......stupid. They are killed

But over all its way better then either AVP film. This is right behind Predator 2, so 3rd best.

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They are considered Radicals?
Nimrod seems to be a much better director than whoever helmed that other shit, so color me excited.

He hasn't done anything brilliant since Kontroll unfortunately. Kontroll was fantastic. But still look forwards to Predators. But yes, much better director than the AvP movie directors. Far better.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Say what you want about AVP R. That film nailed the Yautja creature in Wolf. Best onscreen potrayal so far.

Wouldn't the correct portrayal be the original? The Predator in Predator.

i heared alot about this movie and didn't watch this yet but i'll watch this soon...

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
that's what the Predators do though. 😕
The Predator in the original film literally stayed cloaked for most of the time in combat up until the climax. The Predator in the second film was far more badass. As was Wolf in AVP R. Infact, I can only remember one time the Yautja in Predator 2 employed the plasma caster. Most of the time he was killing people in melee combat. Hardly the same as the creature in the original.
Originally posted by Robtard
Wouldn't the correct portrayal be the original? The Predator in Predator.
Wolf had honor, variety of weapons, actually employed fighting skill, and was by far the most badass. This version had character.
Originally posted by jalek moye
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They are considered Radicals?
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The film contains two different breeds of Yautja. The mutated(I call them "radicals"😉 hunt the normal Yautja we are accustomed to. The mutated ones obviously look different. Fishburne's character states their is a blood fewd between the two tribes, which is fine because we've learned of this in Predator literature.

Originally posted by The Nuul
This is right behind Predator 2, so 3rd best.
I thought the first two films were significantly better than this. Just me though.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
prredators' recieived some good reviews. rogert ebert liked it but said the only element it lacked was the "quiet suspense" the original had.

this one seems like a good waste of time cause it well the predator and just the predator. and on the predator planet. and predator warrior culture always fascinated me..

there's the nostalgia factor, as well. like I hear the movie takes a lot fron 1 and 2 as a nod.

I'd say see it. You may react differently than I did to the picture. The first half is very fun for me. I was shaking my head once the second half started though from then on to the end of the film.

It does lack the suspense or any horror that the first and second accomplished. But Brody's character; "Royce" is right up there with Dutch and Harrigan. He's really good in the part. As are most of the other human characters(which is a change b/c in the recent AVP films the humans were awful). It lacks good action that recent films such as Terminator Salvation, Star Trek, Iron Man 2, and District 9 had.

There's definately a nostalgia feeling watching this one. It heavily mirrors the first one with the music and jungle setting.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
You just lost all of my respect 🙁
Both are far from being perfect films. Terminator Salvation had much better action though. That's what I go to see in these movies. Predators had a good story, sure, but when the main title creatures are handled so badly and there are no decent action sequences to speak of.......

I felt dissapointed walking out of Predators. I felt like Terminator Salvation did its job. That film got the T-800 right and its last action sequence is awesome. It could have been more R-rated(Predators was good at this) but I didn't feel underwhelmed when I walked out of Terminator Salvation. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong and Predators is better.

BTW, have you even seen the film in question?

I liked it; better than I thought it would be. They brought back the song "Stalker" from the original (those fast bongos that signal the creature's presence).

My favorite moment was when the doctor (Topher Grace) admitted he was a serial killer, and probably the most dangerous person there. That was probably an ode to Hannibal Lecter.

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I would have liked them to explain how the Predators know who's who on Earth. How did they know Topher Grace's character was a serial killer, and how they snuck into the prison and abducted the con.

Movie was alright. Coulda done without the goofy katana fight, and the Topher Grace twist was lazy and stupid as shit. Lawrence Fishburne shoulda had a bigger part.

Was pretty fun, though.

Originally posted by BackFire
Coulda done without the goofy katana fight

No, it was a hommage to the first film, when the Indian guy made a last stand with his machete so the others could escape.

Originally posted by BackFire
the Topher Grace twist was lazy and stupid as shit.

Why do you think so? A regular doctor would not have been there. The entire time he seemed out-of-place among a bunch of thugs, until he revealed he was a serial killer.

They didn't earn the twist. They coulda made it work if they put an ounce of effort in, but instead it was basically 'hey i'm a good guy' throughout the whole movie, then at the end 'oh wait, i'm bad now'. Was just poorly written to a very large degree.

And it made sense as to why they'd want a doctor there. Maybe they wanted someone who could help patch up injured victims, so that they could be hunted again another day.

As a fan i'm going to say that this is the movie that Predator fans have been waiting for since seeing the original. I'm sure comparisons to the original are going to sprout up all through out this thread so i want to address that now so that i don't get caught up in it later. Predators is by no means better than the original but i certainly think it's on par. It must be hard to extend upon a story that relies so heavily on the mystery of the main antagonist. In fact i can only think of two examples where it was done successfully and those are, T2 and Aliens. I will say that Predators did a decent job at attempting to instill mystery in the story. However, the mystery aspect of the original that slowly builds into one of the most suspenseful endings in sci-fi cinema is not something you will find in this movie.

Everyone knows exactly how the movie is going to unfold and end before they even sit down in their seats to watch the movie. We all know that we are going to be introduced to a band of characters that will slowly be picked off one by one until a final showdown with the main character and Predator. However, just like the old saying goes, it's not the story being told that's important but rather, how it's told. Let me reassure everyone, this story is told well, with minimal hiccups.

The Predators are very well represented as are all of the protagonists. Most of the characters seemed very interesting and were all portrayed by good acting. The only complaint i had with the protagonists is that the characters weren't given more screen time. Their characters were developed enough. It's just the fact they were fascinating to the point where you wanted to see more, kind of like the Marines in, Aliens.

There certainly is a lot to nit pick in this movie. Most Notably, the characters reactions when they learned they were in another galaxy lol and Adrian Brodys character thinking he could pilot an alien spacecraft. These little things could have very easily culminated into compromising complaints. The fact that the film was expertly directed and expertly acted should make it easy for most people to overlook these things. The flick also has the best action of the series, imo. In short, it's a B movie that shouldn't be as good as it is. The two reasons i think it turned out so well is the acting and Robert Rodriguez producing. Had Rodriguez not possessed full creative control of the movie i'm more than certain that Fox would have ran this movie into the ground just like the AvP movies.

Just got up. Checked for predators times on fandango on the itouch. I got the 11:50a.m. show here in Boston. Can't wait. I'll've a full review afterwards along with my best to worst in the series list.

Peace.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
The Predators are very well represented.
No, they weren't. I do agree with you that the humans characters were good for the most part but the movie failed with the title creatures.

I agree with DM that the

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Predators are strong and all in this film but didnt have the code honor thing anymore. But it was interesting that they come back every year improved from what they have learnt.

Regardless its a very good fun film and def worth the buy for me. Its also way batter than those AVP movies.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
No, they weren't. I do agree with you that the humans characters were good for the most part but the movie failed with the title creatures.

You do realize that the comic book portrayals of the Predators are not the correct versions, right?

The movie versions are the real depictions of the creatures.

I didn't read too much of this thread for fear of spoilers but can somebody tell me if this is a restart or a continuation of the Predator or AVP movies?

ok. my thoughts.

this movie was good like the "predator" was great. i'll even say that it's the second best predator film of the series. (if you wanna count pt. 2) -i'll count it in for the reviews sake-

the films score/theme music = amazing. it absolutely captured the originals intensity just as equally as the original did. from the classic distant solo conga drums to the whole set of ochestrated trumpets going off during a chase or a battle. it was the original score basically but it still delivered the perfect mood all the time in the film just like pt. 1 did back then.

the grapics were nice. i loved how the predator's visuals from it's visor looked, especially when in infrared or heat vision. it was in hd. clear. like you clearly saw the human face from it as opposed to the blurry vision from the original. and i was thinking, either their tech, got better, more evolved from '87, or that's how it always looked since in '87, in hd. and obviously there was no hd back then. (if you noticed that predator infrared visor vision was blurred a bit) or was it just our real world limited camera tech that made their helmet vision look blurry. i also loved how they'd blended back into form. whenever they uncloaked the effect seemed like smokey plume. as if the appeard mystically outta thin air.

the setting was not what i expected. i mean i knew it was in the jungle but wasn't this suppose to take place in the predator home world? we got a glimpse of it in one of the avp films with the planet having a sort of red hue to it and it was seemingly colonized with a city in the background, i think. the place looked highly but brutally technologized. the setting they were in, in this film, looked like earth. it look too familiar to be a predator planet that was galaxies away from ours. the only thing different thing about the eco system was that crazy looking venus fly trap. other than that, call it earth 2. i wasn't totally conviced that they were on another planet, but in one of our rain forests here.

the story was a given but told well enough to keep you interested mainly cause you wondered who was next and how was he gonna go or would he kill a pred or not. or how they'd get off "predetoria" or whatever you wanna call it.

the predators themselves looked cool. they still had that heaviness to 'em. i thought their helmets were too big though. the best looking predator was the captive.

the actors were pretty good. never thought i'd ever see adrien brody playing a bad ass even if he tried but he's proved me wrong. he could've lightened up with the batman voice a bit but other than that he was good. i at first didn't even expect someone of brodys' caliber to do these kinda films i mean, he won an academy award for best actor in '02. (you'd think he'd aim higher but i guess he either personally likes pred mythos or chose to do it because he saw it's potential) good for him. he made the right choice to join. and we need more good actors in the genre anyway. (yes, i'm talking to you sy-fi)

the best scene that wasn't had to've been that yakuza/pred sword fight on the grassy plain. it had the asian look to it thanks to the shots. i just don't know how a human could hang with any predator in hand to hand or blade to blade combat. aren't predators the more skillful, smarter fighters, fiercer, stronger, and faster than humans,? when i comes to that type of combat? apparently not.

anyway. i give the film a 7/10. it was a good movie, i didn't leave dissapointed and beside the original, it was better that all the other predator film adaptations and any other ones that included the warrior creature. the beginning and end we're open ended and hopefully an explaination of some sort'll occur in the sequel if there'll be one. here's my rank.

1. Predator
2. Predators
3. *Predator 2

Peace

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I liked it; better than I thought it would be. They brought back the song "Stalker" from the original (those fast bongos that signal the creature's presence).

My favorite moment was when the doctor (Topher Grace) admitted he was a serial killer, and probably the most dangerous person there. That was probably an ode to Hannibal Lecter.

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I would have liked them to explain how the Predators know who's who on Earth. How did they know Topher Grace's character was a serial killer, and how they snuck into the prison and abducted the con.

i want to know how the predators got the prey to their planet. where they beamed there? and how far is this planet from earth. i know it's galaxies away. and why humans only. i'm sure there are other civilizations in outter space with bad asses and it would've been cool if that kind or race was thrown in with the humans like mixed nuts. i mean it's what they do, don't they. scour the cosmos for the toughest of the tough in order to challenge them and increase their ranking amoung each other. i'd also like to know how they're gonna leave.

also, that planet, i seemed like it was more a hunting ground rather than their home planet. like some lush rock the picked in space to engaged their game. maybe it's a moon of the predator planet cause i could've sworn i saw a red planet in the distance similar to the one in the avp film. or maybe it's the other way around. the red planet in avp was just a moon or base they used for technical operations and the planet we see in "predators" is their home. i dunno..

but i read that theres a comic book that came out a coupe of days ago, along with the film, that's the prequel to "predators" where it basically explains whyand what happens with the predators and the captors just before being ported to the new planet.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I didn't read too much of this thread for fear of spoilers but can somebody tell me if this is a restart or a continuation of the Predator or AVP movies?

Its has nothing to do with AVP, it makes references to P1 forsure and maybe P2.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You do realize that the comic book portrayals of the Predators are not the correct versions, right?

The movie versions are the real depictions of the creatures.

But I do like the honour thing better like in P2.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

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I would have liked them to explain how the Predators know who's who on Earth. How did they know Topher Grace's character was a serial killer, and how they snuck into the prison and abducted the con.

Ha, good ? about the Doc.
2nd ? is easy... They have contacts on the inside (who they bribe with Predator space gold,) and they arrange inmates on death row to be shipped to the reserve for sport. Then they just pull off a mock execution. 😕
Seems like it would've been more feasible to just crash land a team of spec-ops dudes, but i guess they wanted guys from our century.