Thor vs Superman

normal superman can't go near light speed.

pre-cris is different we are talking about post.

pre-crisis could move planets etc.

As I suspected.

I'm talking about current Superman, that's the one that appears on the site. Superman cannot exceed, or even approach lightspeed.

Yeah, that's fairdoes.

It's just that when people say Supes is overhyped, I like to disagree.

They were just remembering the good ole days when Superman was SUPER, lol!

And pointless, lol! 😉

I respect Superman as one of the best Superheroes there is, but I dislike seeing characters overhyped. The debators of this forum are notorius for overhyping Superman.

He still is pretty damn Super. But to be honest, back then he just did more bs.

And it is almost impossible to have a debate about Superman without someone bringing up pr-crisis or prime.

lol!

You're right.

It's each to his own I think.

I lovethe idea of an unbeatable Superhero - but some people find it annoying as hell - which I suspect is true of you.

Anyway - shall we talk a bit about Thor now, lol? He seems to have gone missing from the convo.... 😄

I believe he may be dead. I'd have to stop by the comic shop to be sure.

i give it to Thor.

People think thor is all magic , his streght, speed rivals that of superman.

people don't seem to get that tho.

I think Ultimate Thor is dead, not normal Thor.

Yeah - isn't normal Thor King Thor now?

ya king thor is too much for superman so we gonna bring back normal thor.

he might come back tho.

Yeah. King Thor is basically Odin in a Thor-shaped package right? lol.

And going back to normal Thor...

I believe that he would take Supes down 6/10. Maybe 7/10.

Half of me keeps leaning to Supes, but there's some good arguments being put forth for Thor n I seem stuck out on a limb here, lol.

I still think WW would stand a better chance at Thor than Supes would.

That would be a fight to rock the heavens.

Thank you cosmic cube for posting that link to that superman site. he can only lift a plane lololol no kidding he got his ass kicked by venom.

anyways there is proof that thor would beat his ass

I'm sure he can lift more than a plane, but not the hundreds millions of tons his fanboys claim he can lift.

i agree, i was just trying to egg the fanboys

Many think Superman can lift the weight of the moon. Not true.

Through flight, and with a considerable amount of help, he pushed the moon, which has a lot of mass, but negligible "weight" in space. That's not the same as lifting the moon.

What's harder? Pushing a car or lifting it?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Many think Superman can lift the weight of the moon. Not true.

Through flight, he pushed the moon, which has a lot of mass, but negligible "weight" in space. That's not the same as lifting the moon.

What's harder? Pushing a car or lifting it?

Quite true. I think Superman is faster and stronger than Thor but that hammer just outclasses big blue, no denying that. Not to mention his ability to create dimesional rifts.

Respectable reply, David.

Thanks Cosmic, Thor should win but we know how these things go.

http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Superman

There is a site that says he can travel half the speed of light and lift 250,000 tons.

Thor's speed is said to be at escape velocity... since more than likely you don't know how fast that is, its 25,000 mph. 25,000 mph or about 7 miles per second. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. So Superman travels at half that... 93,000 miles per second. Ok now Thor 7 miles per second or Superman 93,000 miles per second.... yea thats close. I guess he could cause a dimensional rift but I think that would count of running away.

Superman is gradually becoming more and more powerful, if you look at what he can do through all of his comic books you would see that.

It all started in Man Of Steel #30 (Feb. 94), where he knocked out Lobo with only one blow. In this issue, he also, discovered that he was faster than a space ship and did not need an oxygen mask in order to stay in space for a long period of time. In order to get his powers back under controll the Parasite had to drain a portion of them... but he continues to get stronger the more sun light he absorbs. The following are more recent instances of when he showed increases of power.

1. Superman #112, He flies all the way to Mars with no need of oxygen mask.
2. In Superman #171, he travels in deep space without an oxygen mask.
3. In Action Comics #782, he moves Warworld all by himself.
4. Superman #108, Superman -in order to save Mope, who was put in a rocket traveling at hyperspeed going to Krypton so he could be judged by the tribunal- Superman follows the rocket at a same speed (see page 19), but could not travel faster than the rocket so he could save him.
- Hyperspeed is atleast 5 times the speed of sound. Ok so facts are facts... Thor wont be quick enough to come up with a plan before he is hit by a 300 lb Kryptonian who is able to lift 250,000 tons while he is going 93,000 miles per second.

Thor had the hammer against the Hulk and did not stand a chance. Hulk is slower than Superman... fighting hand to hand with a hammer is a little different when your opponent is going 93,000 mps.

So you know... Superman did lift the hammer before... so did Wonder Woman... like probably one of the most just and good heroes ever in comics is not worthy enough to lift Mjolnir.

You were also right... he pushed the moon... space is weightless but its still affected by gravity... last I checked the moon does not change its orbit very easily. But maybe I am wrong.

I think we should change this fight because its not Thor vs Superman... its Mjolnir vs. Superman... pretty much Thor is Mjolnir's sidekick. Thor should move to DC and join the Titans.