Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by superman302
Wow that was the worst arguement ever, your saying that thor wins because superman is an alien????? do you realize how many aliens would whoop thors ass?? i mean hell franklin richards is a mutant so are you going to say that thor could beat him simlply because he is the son of odin???. I mean if your going to debate lets compare the character. First off you say and odin blast would kill Superman hell you even said hittin superman with thors hammer would kill him, first off superman has survived an explosion equal too 100 mega ton nukes going off at the same time yea so dont count him out to fast, second how do you expect thor to hit someone capable of moving faster then the speed of light i mean do you realize how fast the speed of light is that is 180000 miles a second not a min a second that mean superman could deliver literally millions of punches to thor in the time it take him to blink, and im trying to figure out who you think you are to say what a writer says or does in a comic is bs i mean what you pretty much are saying '" that comic is bull shit because i didnt like who won". i mean boo ****in hoo i dont like alot of out comes in comics so if superman beats thor in a comic it happened get over it nothing you say can change it.

The god>alien thing's pretty stupid. And Franklin Richards isn't an alien. Odinforce blast would kill Supes. So would a couple of good strikes with Mjolnir. Magic>Superman. It's just how the world works. A 100 megaton nuke would not destroy a planet. Thor's Godforce, however, can. Plus it's magic, which Supey no likey.

I expect Thor to hit someone going light speed by going 3x light speed. that's 540,000 miles per second for those who are counting. Not a minute, a second. Do you realize that Thor could deliver literally a million hammer strikes to Superman, because he'd be dead after the 3 that hit him before he reacted?

Ok, enough changing your wording. Some comics are written very badly. Wolverine survived and quickly healed from a nuclear bomb. Spiderman defeated Firelord. Fairly. A lot of stupid stuff happens. JLA/Avengers was meant to give both 1 victory: Thor gets a knockout, then Superman gets up and beats him in round 2. They were pretty much shown as "equals". You must understand though, that Superman is an icon. He will not lose in a crossover. Ever. Fan voted or not, both companies would get alot of crap if anyone ended up really beating Superman.

Why I write this much for a blatant fanboy is beyond me, but oh well. It's what I do, how I roll, it's what melts my butter and floats my boat. And yes, that's all just so I could say "melts my butter". droolio

I think Dan Jurgens might have been high during that interview. He said some pretty weird stuff.

So, Supez can only win if THOR doesnt use MAGIC !!!!

Superman can only win if Thor doesn't fight.

Originally posted by ImmortalOne
So, Supez can only win if THOR doesnt use MAGIC !!!!

That is true according to some of these comic geeks and or experts.

Originally posted by Dizzle
The god>alien thing's pretty stupid. And Franklin Richards isn't an alien. Odinforce blast would kill Supes. So would a couple of good strikes with Mjolnir. Magic>Superman. It's just how the world works. A 100 megaton nuke would not destroy a planet. Thor's Godforce, however, can. Plus it's magic, which Supey no likey.

I expect Thor to hit someone going light speed by going 3x light speed. that's 540,000 miles per second for those who are counting. Not a minute, a second. Do you realize that Thor could deliver literally a million hammer strikes to Superman, because he'd be dead after the 3 that hit him before he reacted?

Ok, enough changing your wording. Some comics are written very badly. Wolverine survived and quickly healed from a nuclear bomb. Spiderman defeated Firelord. Fairly. A lot of stupid stuff happens. JLA/Avengers was meant to give both 1 victory: Thor gets a knockout, then Superman gets up and beats him in round 2. They were pretty much shown as "equals". You must understand though, that Superman is an icon. He will not lose in a crossover. Ever. Fan voted or not, both companies would get alot of crap if anyone ended up really beating Superman.

Why I write this much for a blatant fanboy is beyond me, but oh well. It's what I do, how I roll, it's what melts my butter and floats my boat. And yes, that's all just so I could say "melts my butter". droolio

Who cares if supes is an alien and if Thor is a god and i didnt say that Franklin Richards was an alien i was just stating that people on here think that thor is all high and mighty because he is a god when the fact is there are tons of aliens who can beat thor I mean a mutant can beat thor for crying out loud, so i dont get why you keep doing the <><><><<<>??are you going to tell me that god>mutant?????

and since when can thor travel 3 times faster then light during battle or has he ever went any where near those speeds while fighting, Thor does not have a chance in hell of hitting supes if he is going as fast as he can. Also what do you mean 100 mega ton nukes couldnt detroy a planet??? do you realize how strong of a blast that would be and not only did supes survive it, but he was only a little dioriented. Also how do you say that they were shown as pretty much equals when not only did superman catch his hammer but he koed him with one punch.

The God VS Alien argument doesn't make any sense.
Apollo is a god of Marvel Olympian Pantheon, and he's Class 40, Supes will knock him back to home with a snap of his fingers.
leonidas, Thor against Presence just flew at him, and when Present started to blast him, Thor absorbed first the blast, then ALL the nuclear power which is the lifeforce of Presence.
Presence wasn't able to stop him, cause he couldn't overwhelm Mjolnir's abilities, if he could, he would have free himself from that trick, fact is, Thor is more powerful, and was gonna kill him, he stopped cause Starlight told him she could turn back to human form the Avengers and all the other who faced her and Presence.
Thor stunned really bad Supes in AVENGERS/JLA #1 with a blow of Mjolnir, if the writers let him do it, he could have fly or leap to Supes and drain him while he was nearly unconscious.
Attacks which drain Supes or directly attacks his lifeforce-body proved to be very effective against him, check Parasite for example, he always manage to suck the power outta the Man Of Steel, but Thor isn't Parasite, he has powers of his own, he's not draining Supes to enhance himself, he's doing it to kill him or stop him.
And don't tell him he has no chance for doing it, cause with his strenght, he can stun and drain Superman anyday.That's a fact.

Originally posted by K3VIL
The God VS Alien argument doesn't make any sense.
Apollo is a god of Marvel Olympian Pantheon, and he's Class 40, Supes will knock him back to home with a snap of his fingers.
leonidas, Thor against Presence just flew at him, and when Present started to blast him, Thor absorbed first the blast, then ALL the nuclear power which is the lifeforce of Presence.
Presence wasn't able to stop him, cause he couldn't overwhelm Mjolnir's abilities, if he could, he would have free himself from that trick, fact is, Thor is more powerful, and was gonna kill him, he stopped cause Starlight told him she could turn back to human form the Avengers and all the other who faced her and Presence.
Thor stunned really bad Supes in AVENGERS/JLA #1 with a blow of Mjolnir, if the writers let him do it, he could have fly or leap to Supes and drain him while he was nearly unconscious.
Attacks which drain Supes or directly attacks his lifeforce-body proved to be very effective against him, check Parasite for example, he always manage to suck the power outta the Man Of Steel, but Thor isn't Parasite, he has powers of his own, he's not draining Supes to enhance himself, he's doing it to kill him or stop him.
And don't tell him he has no chance for doing it, cause with his strenght, he can stun and drain Superman anyday.That's a fact.

<<leonidas, Thor against Presence just flew at him, and when Present started to blast him, Thor absorbed first the blast, then ALL the nuclear power which is the lifeforce of Presence.
Presence wasn't able to stop him, cause he couldn't overwhelm Mjolnir's abilities, if he could, he would have free himself from that trick, fact is, Thor is more powerful, and was gonna kill him, he stopped cause Starlight told him she could turn back to human form the Avengers and all the other who faced her and Presence.>>

that's what i said . . . the presence attcked him with energy first BEFORE he drained him. he he didn't even bother having to attack for thor to drain him, why didn't thor just drain him immediately?

that's why i don't think he could drain the solar energy from supes. like he couldn't drain the energy from iron man's armor, or from the ss. kg, if you think it's such a good post, tell me why he doesn't do the saem thing to the ss?

admit he can walk up to ss, drain and kill him without ss ever even ATTACKING him, and i'll consider saying he could do the saem to supes.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<leonidas, Thor against Presence just flew at him, and when Present started to blast him, Thor absorbed first the blast, then ALL the nuclear power which is the lifeforce of Presence.
Presence wasn't able to stop him, cause he couldn't overwhelm Mjolnir's abilities, if he could, he would have free himself from that trick, fact is, Thor is more powerful, and was gonna kill him, he stopped cause Starlight told him she could turn back to human form the Avengers and all the other who faced her and Presence.>>

that's what i said . . . the presence attcked him with energy first BEFORE he drained him. he he didn't even bother having to attack for thor to drain him, why didn't thor just drain him immediately?

that's why i don't think he could drain the solar energy from supes. like he couldn't drain the energy from iron man's armor, or from the ss. kg, if you think it's such a good post, tell me why he doesn't do the saem thing to the ss?

admit he can walk up to ss, drain and kill him without ss ever even ATTACKING him, and i'll consider saying he could do the saem to supes.

good post

Originally posted by leonidas

that's what i said . . . the presence attcked him with energy first BEFORE he drained him. he he didn't even bother having to attack for thor to drain him, why didn't thor just drain him immediately?

that's why i don't think he could drain the solar energy from supes. like he couldn't drain the energy from iron man's armor, or from the ss. kg, if you think it's such a good post, tell me why he doesn't do the saem thing to the ss?

admit he can walk up to ss, drain and kill him without ss ever even ATTACKING him, and i'll consider saying he could do the saem to supes.

SS is in his league. Superman's not. It's all in the cells. If Thor can draw out the solar energy from within Superman cells, Supes dies.

Like this:

Supes begging for his life.

Plus Thor likes to duke it out before getting serious.

Then again Thor's godblast will certainly vaporize him before that.

Originally posted by K3VIL
The God VS Alien argument doesn't make any sense.
Apollo is a god of Marvel Olympian Pantheon, and he's Class 40, Supes will knock him back to home with a snap of his fingers.
leonidas, Thor against Presence just flew at him, and when Present started to blast him, Thor absorbed first the blast, then ALL the nuclear power which is the lifeforce of Presence.
Presence wasn't able to stop him, cause he couldn't overwhelm Mjolnir's abilities, if he could, he would have free himself from that trick, fact is, Thor is more powerful, and was gonna kill him, he stopped cause Starlight told him she could turn back to human form the Avengers and all the other who faced her and Presence.
Thor stunned really bad Supes in AVENGERS/JLA #1 with a blow of Mjolnir, if the writers let him do it, he could have fly or leap to Supes and drain him while he was nearly unconscious.
Attacks which drain Supes or directly attacks his lifeforce-body proved to be very effective against him, check Parasite for example, he always manage to suck the power outta the Man Of Steel, but Thor isn't Parasite, he has powers of his own, he's not draining Supes to enhance himself, he's doing it to kill him or stop him.
And don't tell him he has no chance for doing it, cause with his strenght, he can stun and drain Superman anyday.That's a fact.

I still want to know how thor can hit a supes going all out i mean not only is he way way way way faster but he can also vibrate his molecules so fast that he can become intangible.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock

<<If Thor can draw out the solar energy from within Superman cells, Supes dies.>>

er, that IS the question: CAN he drain him? does he have that power? just because he drained presence (who attacked him first WITH energy) doesn't mean he can walk up and drain anyone else. again, i give you iron man as just one a a possible thousand examples. and you're assumption is incorrect -- ss MAY be in thor's league, but ss is NOT in mjollnir's league, which is at least skyfather level -- it's mjollnir that does the draining. again, if he can walk up to ss, drain him then maybe he could do so to supes, but i'd need to see a HELL of a lot of proof before i'd say that could happen.

fyi -- if he could drain from cells, he could literally drain the energy from ANY living being. we all use energy to survive. so are you now saying he can only drain solar energy from cells? what aboutt spiderman -- could he drain the radioactive energy from HIS cells?

the argument is NOT a good one . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
<<leonidas, Thor against Presence just flew at him, and when Present started to blast him, Thor absorbed first the blast, then ALL the nuclear power which is the lifeforce of Presence.
Presence wasn't able to stop him, cause he couldn't overwhelm Mjolnir's abilities, if he could, he would have free himself from that trick, fact is, Thor is more powerful, and was gonna kill him, he stopped cause Starlight told him she could turn back to human form the Avengers and all the other who faced her and Presence.>>

that's what i said . . . the presence attcked him with energy first BEFORE he drained him. he he didn't even bother having to attack for thor to drain him, why didn't thor just drain him immediately?

that's why i don't think he could drain the solar energy from supes. like he couldn't drain the energy from iron man's armor, or from the ss. kg, if you think it's such a good post, tell me why he doesn't do the saem thing to the ss?

admit he can walk up to ss, drain and kill him without ss ever even ATTACKING him, and i'll consider saying he could do the saem to supes.

Why doesn't SS speed blitz in all his fights, why doesn't he kill most of his enimes , or stop them using his molecule effecting powers , Why doesn't he trap every enemies in his board. etc etc.

As for Absorbing marvel best boi Quasar did it , still could take SS down.

SS said fool how can you beat me I am &#8220;POWER&#8221;

And thor can and has reflected cosmic energy, and absorb them.

I mean that Trimp scan doesn't change you mind? how about Polaris , Solaris?

Originally posted by kgkg
I mean why doesn't he ........................ that's the million dollar question

Why doesn't SS speed blitz in all his fights, why doesn't he kill most of his enimes , or stop them using his molecule effecting powers , Why doesn't he trap every enemies in his board. etc etc.

As for Absorbing marvel best boi Quasar did it , still could take SS down.

SS said fool how can you beat me I am &#8220;POWER&#8221;

And thor can and has reflected cosmic energy, and absorb them.

I mean that Trimp scan doesn't change you mind? how about Polaris , Solaris?

so are you saying that you think that classis thor is stronger the triumph?

Originally posted by superman302
so are you saying that you think that classis thor is stronger the triumph?

Originally posted by leonidas
<<If Thor can draw out the solar energy from within Superman cells, Supes dies.>>

er, that IS the question: CAN he drain him? does he have that power? just because he drained presence (who attacked him first WITH energy) doesn't mean he can walk up and drain anyone else. again, i give you iron man as just one a a possible thousand examples. and you're assumption is incorrect -- ss MAY be in thor's league, but ss is NOT in mjollnir's league, which is at least skyfather level -- it's mjollnir that does the draining. again, if he can walk up to ss, drain him then maybe he could do so to supes, but i'd need to see a HELL of a lot of proof before i'd say that could happen.

fyi -- if he could drain from cells, he could literally drain the energy from ANY living being. we all use energy to survive. so are you now saying he can only drain solar energy from cells? what aboutt spiderman -- could he drain the radioactive energy from HIS cells?

the argument is NOT a good one . . .

Spiderman isn't powered by radiation. His DNA was mutated by a spider's bite, who's DNA was mutated by radiation. There is no radiation in Spiderman's body to absorb. There's plenty of radiation in Superman's body (sunlight.) That's quite a distinction.

Being a high level energy manipulator, Surfer has control over his own energy. Apparently Superman does not share the ability.

Originally posted by kgkg
Did i say that 😉

no but your pretty much saying that is triumph can do it thor can also, when the fact is thor isnt on triumphs level nor do you have any proff to show that their abilities operate the same way so i dont know where your arguement is going with it.

Originally posted by superman302
so are you saying that you think that classis thor is stronger the triumph?

I think that he's saying that Thor can drain Superman's energy similarly to the way Triumph did.

But according to what I've seen/heard, Superman would have to attack Thor with energy first.