Originally posted by batdude123
Nothing in this thread that you've said Thunderstrike, has made me change my opinion on the subject. You still haven't answered some of my questions and I doubt Thor could take the majority. I say Superman 6/10. Alright peace everbody, I'm out!
That's because you can't read. Have a nice night though.
Originally posted by marvelprince
How can you possibly separate Thor from mjolnir? Thats like saying lets have Superman fight Doomsday without his powers. The fact that you need to separate them to make it a win for Superman kinda weakens your agrument a bit don't you think?
Not at all. Gladiator did it with a kick.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Dr. Strange is another cause he has a 7 rating also. Superman wins 9 out of 10 loosing one cause he feels sorry for Thor.
When Superman can kill Hulk and Thing with one arm or beat both Silver Surfer and Beta Ray Bill (either of whom has a chance of killing superman) almost to death easily, or singlehandedly fight off a Power Gem Drax and another high class 100 guy (Maxam) at the same time, let's talk about who should be feeling sorry and playing handicap matches.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I give substantial evidence, and people just don't listen, I guess. I know I'm not going to change everyone's opinion, but I know that I countered everything.
Actually, you didn't counter everything I posted, but whatever. You still didn't answer some of my question. You have your opinion and I have mine. 😄
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindYea Glads sure did. He knocked Thor for a loop afterwords.
Not at all. Gladiator did it with a kick.
This is another way for Supes to win.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/Gladspuntin.jpg
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Ah, the spleedbitz. Mighty weapon of the JLAKMC. Well, what's gonna happen if he charges in and sees nothing but enchanted lighting? Pretty sure that crap ain't working. If Thor can move at the same speeds with ease, then I'm sure he's gonna see him coming. This is Thor with the hammer, not Mider.
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sorry mider, but THAT was funny . . .
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Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I give substantial evidence, and people just don't listen, I guess. I know I'm not going to change everyone's opinion, but I know that I countered everything.
i've spent too much time on this thread in the past. i finally decided i just don't know WHO would win the f'in fight and if forced, i'd say supes 5.5/10. i've actually argued for BOTH sides at different points in this tortured thread's existence. the one problem i had with picking thor is the fact that speed HAS been used -- repeatedly and very effectively against him -- in the past. scans are all in this thread somewhere, but i really don't feel like finding them in the thread or among my own books. but the primary instances are:
1. spiderman dancing all around him, pounding on him and thor NOT being able to hit him or get him away WITHOUT a wide dispersal blast.
2. mongoose (twice) making a fool of thor and once even beating him down to his knees then to the ground!! hercules actually had to SAVE thor that time. (mongoose was considerably stronger than spidey)
3. thor being unable to hit the surfer with his hammer
4. glads' blitzing him and knocking his hammer away but NOT following up with his speed (he never does which is why i say he has great travel/blitz speed but NOT combat speed -- unlike superman who has demonstrated MANY times VAST combat speeds)
it is enormously difficult to adequately counter these points without referring to pis/cis. the only real instances of combat speed (not travel speed) thor has shown were against ss and warlock where it is said he moved like 'lightning', but clearly that wasn't meant as a literal description, and in hel, hela commented with something very similar while thor was taking hel apart. if you have others i'd love to see them.
both have ample power to beat the other, but it was the speed advantage (and thor's apparent susceptibility to speed) that won me over slightly. i mean the friggin' MONGOOSE puts him down?? 🙁
Originally posted by leonidasCareful leo these guys may call you a fanboy for thinking a logical way for Supes to win.
i've spent too much time on this thread in the past. i finally decided i just don't know WHO would win the f'in fight and if forced, i'd say supes 5.5/10. i've actually argued for BOTH sides at different points in this tortured thread's existence. the one problem i had with picking thor is the fact that speed HAS been used -- repeatedly and very effectively against him -- in the past. scans are all in this thread somewhere, but i really don't feel like finding them in the thread or among my own books. but the primary instances are:1. spiderman dancing all around him, pounding on him and thor NOT being able to hit him or get him away WITHOUT a wide dispersal blast.
2. mongoose (twice) making a fool of thor and once even beating him down to his knees then to the ground!! hercules actually had to SAVE thor that time. (mongoose was considerably stronger than spidey)
3. thor being unable to hit the surfer with his hammer
4. glads' blitzing him and knocking his hammer away but NOT following up with his speed (he never does which is why i say he has great travel/blitz speed but NOT combat speed -- unlike superman who has demonstrated MANY times VAST combat speeds)
it is enormously difficult to adequately counter these points without referring to pis/cis. the only real instances of combat speed (not travel speed) thor has shown were against ss and warlock where it is said he moved like 'lightning', but clearly that wasn't meant as a literal description, and in hel, hela commented with something very similar while thor was taking hel apart. if you have others i'd love to see them.
both have ample power to beat the other, but it was the speed advantage (and thor's apparent susceptibility to speed) that won me over slightly. i mean the friggin' MONGOOSE puts him down?? 🙁
