Originally posted by Larceny
Also, I have a question. As I was reading throughout the thread and I noticed we were now talking about Current Thor, at least Avlon was. It's obvious Thor is far less proficient in use of the Odin Power than his father was, but I don't understand what's keeping him from amping his speed to the level of or even transcending Superman's levels of speed? Doing so would pretty much authenticate a win as speed was Superman's only advantage that would make any difference in a fight.
Interesting theory. However, even Odin hasn't used it to speed up in a physical fight, correct?
Also, I doubt Thor is anywhere near as amped up as the source powered infinity man, who Superman was physically beating down.
Originally posted by Larceny
Also, I have a question. As I was reading throughout the thread and I noticed we were now talking about Current Thor, at least Avlon was. It's obvious Thor is far less proficient in use of the Odin Power than his father was, but I don't understand what's keeping him from amping his speed to the level of or even transcending Superman's levels of speed? Doing so would pretty much authenticate a win as speed was Superman's only advantage that would make any difference in a fight.
current thor may be less proficient in using the odin power as his father, but not by much. remember, he had the odin power for a good century or so before traveling back in time to stop himself from going nuts and merging with his past self therefore retaining the knowledge of the future. plus, he did sacrifice both his eyes and nearly died to gain his father's knoledge. wether he still has knowledge of the runes is still up in the air, much like the odin power before. but there are indications that he at least has his memory of everything that trasnpired before his rebirth.
so, current thor should beat superman
current thor = king thor when he faught the desak possesed destroyer => odin = skyfather > superman
unless of course superman=skyfather now
Originally posted by Avlon
Interesting theory. However, even Odin hasn't used it to speed up in a physical fight, correct?Also, I doubt Thor is anywhere near as amped up as the source powered infinity man, who Superman was physically beating down.
Actually Odin has. Odin's fight with Forsung spanned the entirety of the universe in mere moments. These kind of speeds would call for an amping, unless of course you would like to write this off as his base.
Any attribute outside of speed is irrelevant. By eliminating Supes speed advantage he also eliminates any chance of Superman pulling out a victory.
Originally posted by Larceny
Actually Odin has. Odin's fight with Forsung spanned the entirety of the universe in mere moments. These kind of speeds would call for an amping, unless of course you would like to write this off as his base.Any attribute outside of speed is irrelevant. By eliminating Supes speed advantage he also eliminates any chance of Superman pulling out a victory.
Not quite. As stated, Superman was physically beating Infinity man amped by the source. Infinity man > Thor and Source > Odinforce.
Speed is highly relevant. It's not like we're discussing quicksilver here. We're talking about a guy who with "normal" speed can crack a moon in half with a punch. Add lightspeed behind it and then there is a huge problem for practically anyone to handle. That and a guy who can move so fast that blasts go in slow motion or that he can simply vibrate through them.
Even though it doesn't apply to Thor, that Odin feat sounds interesting though. Were they actually shown fighting that fast? Teleporting? Is it in one of the respect threads?
Originally posted by Avlon
Not quite. As stated, Superman was physically beating Infinity man amped by the source. Infinity man > Thor and Source > Odinforce.
Ermm that doesnt actually prove that Superman can beat IM physically. What it looked like was that Superman was stronger than he thought and he didnt want to waste his time fighting him.
Originally posted by Avlon
Not quite. As stated, Superman was physically beating Infinity man amped by the source. Infinity man > Thor and Source > Odinforce.Speed is highly relevant. It's not like we're discussing quicksilver here. We're talking about a guy who with "normal" speed can crack a moon in half with a punch. Add lightspeed behind it and then there is a huge problem for practically anyone to handle. That and a guy who can move so fast that blasts go in slow motion or that he can simply vibrate through them.
Even though it doesn't apply to Thor, that Odin feat sounds interesting though. Were they actually shown fighting that fast? Teleporting? Is it in one of the respect threads?
I haven't yet read the comic. I'll look into it though, there's likely more to the story than what your giving off. If not, my sincerest apologies.
Not when your opponent can amp his or her speed to whatever they desire.
It actually does. Odin's only capable of doing what he does because of one thing. The Odin Power, the same Odin Power that now resides in Thor. As I've stated before, he's amped his physical attributes before, doing so again should be no problem.
One Panel they're standing in the middle of a crowd. The next they disappear. The panel shows a bang, and describes the events that are taking place. The next Odin's standing back in the middle of the crowd with a dead Forsung.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneHe has the Odinpower. Although how close he is to Skyfather I don't want to say.
Looks like it. If that is the case I dont see him winning could be wrong though. I knew he was more powerful but not skyfather.
More is going to be revealed I think cause if he is Skyfather level and he is calling on the power of his mother. Thor has just become to powerful to for him to be the kind of character people want to read about.
Originally posted by Kutulu
KMC, where speed blitz = ZOMG win even against skyfathers. 🙄
the next time you make a post like that, its a warning. i am sick and tired of this 'kmc is so stupid' attitude and the comments that go with it.
nobody is forcing you to stick around, but if you do, abiding by the rules is necessary...