Originally posted by Larceny
We know Thor's base. We know he can amp via the Odin Power. What's so hard to grasp?Could the same not be said for the supporters of Superman? What arguments do you have left?
Thors base has been ko'd by a superman who didnt even use speed. using his speed makes things worse for thor.
it is hard to grasp that thor is a statue compared to supes?
You can keep trying to come up with ways around it.
Originally posted by Avlon
Thors base has been ko'd by a superman who didnt even use speed. using his speed makes things worse for thor.it is hard to grasp that thor is a statue compared to supes?
You can keep trying to come up with ways around it.
Not the same Thor, and even if it were I doubt the result would be the same. Again, if you'd like to use JLA/Avengers as actual evidence in a debate, than Thor accomplished what Superman has never come close to accomplishing. One shotting Doomsday.
Yes, especially when you failed to provide evidence of Superman actually speedblitzing at FTL speeds, and continue to ignore the evidence given to support Thor's reflexes.
I haven't. I've consistently provided evidence supporting Thor's reflexes.
Originally posted by NewjakSo... it amped him... ?
I have.And it wasn't a power up per se. More less Thor channeling his power and reinforcing what was already there.
Hence why it was Thor that did and not the other heroes.
Remember what they said.
"Why do we need to help him he is Thor" or something along those lines.
The heroes were also killing the Vikings as well...
Originally posted by TetragrammatonI still doubt he is a full skyfather. 😛
He has his PC history as Superboy, at least in regards to Legion stories.Look, you said yourself in the Thor thread you doubted he was a full Skyfather so I don't see why you're changing your tune here.
When Thor starts throwing around Rune magic, it'll be fair to use his Ragnarok feats. Likewise, when Superman starts towing galaxies, it'll be fair to use his Legion feats.
I just want to point out to the people saying that Superman beats current Thor with OdinPower when in fact he would have access to his Ragnorok feats.
You see once again I never took it as there being RUNE MAGIC a literal magic type thing. I took more as a knowledge that was gained on how to use Rune Magic with the Odin Power. Hence why you don't commonly see people invoking Rune Magic to make them Skyfather beings. I just took it as Thor finally understand how to use the Odinpower the way it was meant to be used.
Like I said I saw it throughout the comic where the parallels were made where it wasn't necessarily that Thor was operating on more juice then Odin. Just that Thor was willing to go to the extra lengths to get the job done.
Sacrificing two eyes, bringing on Ragnorok to end it. Allowing all of Asgard to die in that cause so they could truly be free.
Originally posted by Larceny
Not the same Thor, and even if it was I doubt the result would be the same. Again, if you'd like to use JLA/Avengers as actual evidence in a debate than Thor accomplished what Superman has never come close to accomplishing. One shotting Doomsday.Yes, especially when you failed to provide evidence of Superman actually speedblitzing at FTL speeds, and continue to ignore the evidence given to support Thor's reflexes.
I haven't. I've consistently provided evidence supporting Thor's reflexes.
SUPERMAN BUILT A GODDAMN CITY IN SECONDS!!!
INSTEAD OF LAYING TRILLIONS OF BRICKS AND OTHER MATERIALS TO BUILD ENTIRE STRUCTURES IN SECONDS, SUBSTITUTE HIM PUNCHING >>>THAT IS FTL SPEEDBLITZ.
STOP BEING SO DENSE.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
SUPERMAN BUILT A GODDAMN CITY IN SECONDS!!!INSTEAD OF LAYING TRILLIONS OF BRICKS AND OTHER MATERIALS, SUBSTITUTE HIM PUNCHING >>>THAT IS FTL SPEEDBLITZ.
STOP BEING SO DENSE.
As Goober pointed out. This is not evidence of an FTL speed blitz. Translating this into fighting speeds is asinine.
Originally posted by Larceny
Not the same Thor, and even if it was I doubt the result would be the same. Again, if you'd like to use JLA/Avengers as actual evidence in a debate than Thor accomplished what Superman has never come close to accomplishing. One shotting Doomsday.
Were you not the one showing ancient scans of that same Thor?
At least that one has some feats?
And as for one shotting Doomsday (LULZ) did a piece of a leg on one small panel tell you all that? Please tell us all of this battle!
Originally posted by Larceny
Yes, especially when you failed to provide evidence of Superman actually speedblitzing at FTL speeds, and continue to ignore the evidence given to support Thor's reflexes.
I never claimed FTL speedblitz... There is a huge difference between that and Superman still being far faster than Thor. See Supes speedblitzing characters with actual documented Superspeed for reference.
Originally posted by Larceny
I haven't. I've consistently provided evidence supporting Thor's reflexes.
You've tried to use the Grodd/Flash theory that isn't supported. Considering Thor's history, we should have have clear scans where we don't have to guesstimate a thing.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistLike I said not amped reinforced what was already there.
So... it amped him... ?The heroes were also killing the Vikings as well...
Or do you forget even after Strange did everything he did Thor was still being beaten up a for a little bit before rising up at the end and dismantling HJ literally. Why cause like all the heroes said he is Thor, not he is Thor plus Rune Magic.
Originally posted by Avlon
Were you not the one showing ancient scans of that same Thor?
At least that one has some feats?And as for one shotting Doomsday (LULZ) did a piece of a leg on one small panel tell you all that? Please tell us all of this battle!
I never claimed FTL speedblitz... There is a huge difference between that and Superman still being far faster than Thor. See Supes speedblitzing characters with actual documented Superspeed for reference.
You've tried to use the Grodd/Flash theory that isn't supported. Considering Thor's history, we should have have clear scans where we don't have to guesstimate a thing.
I don't quite understand what you're saying. I'm not allowed to use feats of classic Thor to support Odin powered Thor although he's retained all his powers from when he was classic Thor?
Yes, actually it did. When a character is attacked, and doesn't appear for the rest of the comic, you're correct, I assume the worst.
Than what is your stance? Speedblitz is his only option, at least thats what the Superman supporters were debating.
Actually I haven't. Not a single one of my post has anything to do with Flash.
Originally posted by Ricardo Potter
I am a bit tipsy let me say it again.For people who still think Thor has the Rune power and can use the Ragorak feats, wouldn't it mean he would have been able to beat Destroyer or easily awakened all the gods?
He pretty much did easily defeat the Destroyer. As for reawakening the gods? I'm not entirely, it's an ambiguous feat.
However I haven't argued that he still possess the runes.