Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What the hell do you mean everyone has faster than light reflexes? Show me everyone reaction light speed attacks, swinging and attacking with his hammer at speeds faster than light/thought.Like I said, while Thor has super speed movement, as he has created trenches before someone like Quicksilver (I believe he was present.) could react, Superman is superior. That doesn't change the fact that with his reflexes, he can react/defend himself against Superman, whether or not his speed blitzing.
When does Thor display speed other than being dragged by his hammer or throwing his hammer?
Show me Thor reacting to a blitz(multiple blows from multiple angles, not just the one time FTL reflex "oh look i threw my hammer up just in time." crap) or moving his hands and feat anywhere close to Superman.
You can't. All you have is the FTL reflex which is the "herald' standard.
Originally posted by Spire
When does Thor display speed other than being dragged by his hammer or throwing his hammer?Show me Thor reacting to a blitz(multiple blows from multiple angles, not just the one time FTL reflex "oh look i threw my hammer up just in time." crap) or moving his hands and feat anywhere close to Superman.
You can't. All you have is the FTL reflex which is the "herald' standard.
Oh I don't know the times, where his shown super human speed. Like the time he moves faster than human eyes can follow, and faster than his team mates can react.
How about the time he with his hands, swings Mjolnir at faster than light speeds?
Faster than light reflexes is faster than light reflexes. That is sufficient enough to defend one self from a speed blitz from Clark.
Originally posted by Spire
A blitz is a continued assault.Is their a speed gap between Superman and Thor?
So Thor who has faster than light reflexes, won't be able to react to multiple attacks at speeds of light or greater?
Okay....
Thor doesn't have to withstand or react to a continuous assault. He can simply throw up a Barrier, and/or Force Field, and sit tight.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh I don't know the times, where his shown super human speed. Like the time he moves faster than human eyes can follow, and faster than his team mates can react.How about the time he with his hands, swings Mjolnir at faster than light speeds?
Faster than light reflexes is faster than light reflexes. That is sufficient enough to defend one self from a speed blitz from Clark.
Lol.
Superhuman fast as Quicksilver speeds or Superman racing Flash, blitzing, vibrating intangible speeds?
No sufficient, as it has never been shown.
Originally posted by Spire
Lol.Superhuman fast as Quicksilver speeds or Superman racing Flash, blitzing, vibrating intangible speeds?
No sufficient, as it has never been shown.
Did I not say, that Superman has superior movement?
He does, but Thor has faster than light reflexes, and possesses abilities that would mean he won't go down to a speed blitz.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did I not say, that Superman has superior movement?He does, but Thor has faster than light reflexes, and possesses abilities that would mean he won't go down to a speed blitz.
Cool, so you want it both ways.
Herald A will never hit Herald B because he has FTL reflexes.
Herald B will never hit Herald A because he has FTL reflexes.
Thor can fling up his hammer for a one time hammer block. I get that. When has he done it again and again?
Superman will dance circles around him using HV, Fists and icebreath at Thor's feet.
Never has Thor shown to be able to deal with that.
Superman will KO Thor using the same tactics as Glads. Rush him, knock his hammer out of his hands, knock it away, etc. then pummel his face.
Originally posted by Spire
Cool, so you want it both ways.Herald A will never hit Herald B because he has FTL reflexes.
Herald B will never hit Herald A because he has FTL reflexes.
Thor can fling up his hammer for a one time hammer block. I get that. When has he done it again and again?
Superman will dance circles around him using HV, Fists and icebreath at Thor's feet.
Never has Thor shown to be able to deal with that.
Superman will KO Thor using the same tactics as Glads. Rush him, knock his hammer out of his hands, knock it away, etc. then pummel his face.
He does it multiple times, such as when he blocks multiple bullets out of the air.
Of course Thor has never been shown to be able to deal with that. Thor has never fought someone who could use those abilities against him.
Gladiator fluctuates a lot. He goes from barely beating Colossus to collapsing Stars. Also, Masterson, the inexperienced Thor, reacted and defended an attempted speed blitz from Gladiator. Either way using him as a basis as to how well Thor would do against Superman is faulty as a result. Plus it was a future Gladiator. We do not know how powerful he was. Good luck with Superman trying to knock Mjolnir out of Thor's hands. Gladiator never knocked out Thor. He knocked out Olsen.
Originally posted by Spire
I think Supes using these tactics will take Thor 6/10.Sure Thor will block some hits, but hits are also going to connect.
Not a stomp.
I think this whole Thor has feats rivaling Superman and anything Superman tries is negated by FTLR has gone on long enough and the original point has been forgotten.
Thor doesn't even have to withstand a continuous barrage. Like I said, he can throw up a Barrier/Force Field, and take no damage at all.
I agree though, this has gone on too long. It's even getting repetitive.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He does it multiple times, such as when he blocks multiple bullets out of the air.Of course Thor has never been shown to be able to deal with that. Thor has never fought someone who could use those abilities against him.
Gladiator fluctuates a lot. He goes from barely beating Colossus to collapsing Stars. Also, Masterson, the inexperienced Thor, reacted and defended an attempted speed blitz from Gladiator. Either way using him as a basis as to how well Thor would do against Superman is faulty as a result. Plus it was a future Gladiator. We do not know how powerful he was. Good luck with Superman trying to knock Mjolnir out of Thor's hands. Gladiator never knocked out Thor. He knocked out Olsen.
Hahaha bullets?
Missing the point its not about Glads power, is was about the tactics.
Supes>Glads anyways.
Superman will rush him, circle him and lay on the heat vision, ice breath, punches, etc... Tho will drop.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor doesn't even have to withstand a continuous barrage. Like I said, he can throw up a Barrier/Force Field, and take no damage at all.I agree though, this has gone on too long. It's even getting repetitive.
Lolz, somehow Thor does this while or before Superman starts the blitz....
Get real.
Speed: Superman>Thor.
Then again we can play your denial game of Herald A can't hit Herald B becuz of FTLR!