Originally posted by Warlord
Herald A having FTL refleses doesn't mean he can't get hit by herald B who has FTL speed. It just means their speeds cancel one the other. Yeah Superman is faster but not by a margin the = the win. Plus if Superman HVs Thor he's drained (like the Presence was)
If Herald A had speed equal to Herald B.
Thor's/Superman's feats show that this isn't the case.
Originally posted by Spire
More like 8.He isn't slow. He has had consistent FTLR for years. He just doesn't have the feats Superman does.
Superman doesn't have the feats a lot of people think he does.
A lot of the feats that people hype up are minor things, like catching bullets. Rogue and Quicksilver can catch bullets easily, so that's hardly something which puts him on another level. As far as blocking several attacks, just go and look at any fight he's in.
There's no reason why Thor would do anything but use his hammer, which he does. But instead of hopping around and using his palm to deflect strikes in an OH-SO-COOL manner, he can simply swing his hammer. Once that baby swings it'll block -anything-
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Superman doesn't have the feats a lot of people think he does.A lot of the feats that people hype up are minor things, like catching bullets. Rogue and Quicksilver can catch bullets easily, so that's hardly something which puts him on another level. As far as blocking several attacks, just go and look at any fight he's in.
There's no reason why Thor would do anything but use his hammer, which he does. But instead of hopping around and using his palm to deflect strikes in an OH-SO-COOL manner, he can simply swing his hammer. Once that baby swings it'll block -anything-
I'm not talking about bullets.
Superman will eventually get enough hits in for a 6/10.
Originally posted by Spire
I'm not talking about bullets.
That's the point, you're not talking about anything really.
You automatically discredit his speed because you've never read any Thor and because he has a completely different fighting style than Superman.
Superman can dodge and dance around things like in his fights against Mongul. Thor doesn't need to dodge, he raises his hammer and it takes whatever the ****'s coming at it.
Originally posted by Spire
He hasn't moved his limbs the way Clark has.It's mostly FTLR, hammer throwing and flight.
still Thor was able to operate in these speeds. he was not just lugage in a vehicle he was steering. meaning he was fully operative in ftl speeds. I don't say he is as fast as superman. I say he is fast enough so Supes speed does not make it an automatical win
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's the point, you're not talking about anything really.You automatically discredit his speed because you've never read any Thor and because he has a completely different fighting style than Superman.
Superman can dodge and dance around things like in his fights against Mongul. Thor doesn't need to dodge, he raises his hammer and it takes whatever the ****'s coming at it.
No, I'm talking about rebuilding a city, acting in two places at once, blitzing.
Not discrediting his speed and several gigs of Thor vol 1 and 2 says otherwise...
Superman will eventually get in hits and Thor will eventually go down.
Originally posted by Spire
No, I'm talking about rebuilding a city, acting in two places at once, blitzing.Superman will eventually get in hits and Thor will eventually go down.
- Thor can swing his hammer and rebuild something. Why should he fly around doing that?
- Thor can't act as he is in several places at once. This seems to be more in line with DC's super-bullshit.
- He has blitzed opponents many times, only he does not fly AROUND THEM hitting, he'll be straight up in front of them and floor his opponents with a single punch or throw.
The problem with you (plural) is that you don't have a problem with his lack of feats, but rather his different fighting style. You expect him to have identical feats as Superman, which is impossible. Only Superman and super-people can have identical speed feats, because they're the only ones who would fight just like him.
Originally posted by Spire
No, I'm talking about rebuilding a city, acting in two places at once, blitzing.Not discrediting his speed and several gigs of Thor vol 1 and 2 says otherwise...
Superman will eventually get in hits and Thor will eventually go down.
so superman can beat odinforce thor? hmmm.... interesting...
Originally posted by Mindset
No, you're like the two posters mentioned because you basically repeated exactly what they have said.
Lol, both of those people think that Superman is Thor superior in every category and try to discredit Thor.
I give a 6/10 win do to speed feats, just like anyone else who gives Superman the nod.
Maybe you should read some Superman vs Thor threads.
*reads Thor 602*
Spoiler:
Well, there goes that. Thor apparently only had a portion of the Odin power which he used to repair Mjolnir. So not only he wasn't 'ze skyfather level!!' everything was making him to be, but he's back to his classic level once again.The reveal that he only had some of Odin's power and not all is logical considering he was never portrayed as being far above conventional high heralds, and the state in which he is now, at classic levels, is the best for the character, imo. Not to mention it would stop all these 'he is a skyfather!/no he is not!' type of discussion which usually degenerate.
Originally posted by Philosophía
*reads Thor 602*Spoiler:
Well, there goes that. Thor apparently only had a portion of the Odin power which he used to repair Mjolnir. So not only he wasn't 'ze skyfather level!!' everything was making him to be, but he's back to his classic level once again.
Spoiler:
Actually, weaker because if the hammer breaks, he dies with it