Thor vs Superman

Started by h1a8453 pages

Originally posted by carver9
So NO Herald is planetary level? What about if a character if weakened but still displayed planetary power? What would you say about that? Example...a weakened Greenscar pulled planet Sakaar that was twice the size of Earth.
You said CONSISTENTLY.

Hulk is stronger under duress. He's not weaker. And I have a problem with the feat. Holding plates is not the same as actually lifting an Earth weight.

Can you post a scan of Sakaar being stated to be twice the size of Earth?

Originally posted by ghostman
and lol @ people saying thor doesnt have planetary level strength come on guys really?
He has no feats to prove otherwise. Even if he did then surely more than 99% of the time he doesn't.

Originally posted by h1a8
You said CONSISTENTLY.

Hulk is stronger under duress. He's not weaker. And I have a problem with the feat. Holding plates is not the same as actually lifting an Earth weight.

Can you post a scan of Sakaar being stated to be twice the size of Earth?

His power was stated to be depleted. So no matter how duress he was, he was still weakened.

The planet was splitting in half and he pulled it back together...that's planetary bro.

I'm not posting you any scans. I'll leave it to you to find.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has no feats to prove otherwise. Even if he did then surely more than 99% of the time he doesn't.

Sure he does.

Originally posted by carver9
His power was stated to be depleted. So no matter how duress he was, he was still weakened.

The planet was splitting in half and he pulled it back together...that's planetary bro.

I'm not posting you any scans. I'll leave it to you to find.

I'll look into it when I get home. Just thought it would be convenient for you to post scans. I always post when you ask me to.

But again, you said consistently though.

You want power scaling? Here Five Supergirls were needed to pull just Superman out of source wall and make a small fracture in source wall.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16076089/Superman_Batman_25-01.JPG.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16076090/Superman_Batman_25-0203.JPG.html

Superman alone destroyed a planet size chunk out of source wall.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner017.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner018.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner021.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner022.jpg

That was after overpowering the pull of Source Wall itself.

That's how you destroy a planet. Not by a puny hammer.

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SMh, I think people forget the punch that ended the multiverse.

I think people forget the punch that ended Abomination who is stronger than Hulk who has infinite strength!

Thor = Infinity + + !

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Is he class one hundred though😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
You want power scaling? Here Five Supergirls were needed to pull just Superman out of source wall and make a small fracture in source wall.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16076089/Superman_Batman_25-01.JPG.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16076090/Superman_Batman_25-0203.JPG.html

Superman alone destroyed a planet size chunk out of source wall.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner017.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner018.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner021.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner022.jpg

That was after overpowering the pull of Source Wall itself.

That's how you destroy a planet. Not by a puny hammer.

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yup yup, also heres the 700 plus earth punch feat!

1) Now first of all, I'd like to clear up some shit on this page specifically in regards to where the Moon's mass is stated on-panel:

"The Shadow's mass will be the same as the real Moon."

"81 Billion tons."

Now, that second line of dialogue, as stated by Batman, is false - the Mass of the Moon is not 81 Billion tons but is instead, in fact, much closer to 81 Billion Billion tons at 81 Quintillion tons, or at 73 Sextillion kilograms. I've also heard marvel **** drip try and suggest that the DC Comics variant of the Earth's Moon had possessed one billion times less mass than our real-life Moon, but this claim is also false. The writer of Justice League Vol. 2 #30, Dwayne McDuffie, had later specifically mentioned on his own website that he had tried to, and made a error in, calculating the real-life Moon's mass for this comic, as well as that he had originally intended to utilize the actual Moon's mass of 81 Quintillion tons. This is also very evident even in the dialogue itself, where it's clearly stated that the Shadow Moon's mass "will be the same as the real Moon", yet the distinction still wouldn't make much sense, if Earth's Moon in the DC Universe had possessed one billion times less mass than our real-life Moon.

2) For some "reason", some people always seem to selectively forget the basic scientific principal of "Force = Mass*Acceleration", even when it's been spoon-fed to them - it's also even funnier because that exact same comic, which had mentioned the F=MA equation on-panel, has already established that the Mass of the Shadow Moon, as well as the fact that it was heading to Earth. Still, do we know just how fast it was going?

"My ring clocks it at 7,614,000 km per hour"

...and thank you, Green Lantern! Now, we have everything that we need to figure out just how much Kinetic Energy the Shadow Moon was exerting while heading for Earth, and how much Superman had to exert to stop it! Keep in mind that Superman didn't simply "stop" the Shadow Moon either - he actually was able to not only match the Shadow Moon's forward momentum, moving at 7,614,000 km per hour or 2,115,000 m/s, but also outright shattered it into fragments and exerted far more than the necessary power to pulverize it.

KE = 1/2mv^2

KE = 1/2(73 Sextillion*2,115,000)^2

KE = 1.632727124e+35 Joules

Calculating the Kinetic Energy of the Shadow Moon has given us a result of 3.9 Quintillion Megatons of force - that's enough energy to destroy Earth 735.84x over!!!! good god... ****ing supes!!!!! heres the feat in action:

SUPERMAN punches with the force to shatter over 700 earths. **** a gladiator

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
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Is he class one hundred though😂

One hundred + !

http://i.imgur.com/FB2t2tA.jpg

7/7!!!

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140830015343/outskirtsbattledome/images/4/47/Marvel_Handbook_Stats.gif

INCALCULABLE!!!

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Seriously though, it's safe to say Supes is stronger than Thor. If they ever fought, the difference wouldn't be big, but it definitely would be there. Kinda like the "Goes up to eleven" scene.

As for speed - if Clark actually uses it the way it should be used in combat - he's way faster than Thor. Problem is, he's not likely to utilize it properly.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Are you talking about Supes/Doomy smashing through multiple trans level probes?
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Very similar to mentally unblocked Thor/Hype broforce smashing through multiple abstract level Beyonders no?
winkiss

A little different.

How many do we know for a fact they defeated on panel? Did they actually defeat any? Do we have definitive proof? Or did they just get whacks in while going down?

How powerful are the fodder Beyonders, as opposed to the Ivory Kings, once inside the universe as such, rather than laying a trap to lure the cosmics to wildspace? Any great on panel feats as individuals?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You want power scaling? Here Five Supergirls were needed to pull just Superman out of source wall and make a small fracture in source wall.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16076089/Superman_Batman_25-01.JPG.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16076090/Superman_Batman_25-0203.JPG.html

Superman alone destroyed a planet size chunk out of source wall.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner017.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner018.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner021.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Superman-Batman0422008MinuteMen-DarthScanner022.jpg

That was after overpowering the pull of Source Wall itself.

That's how you destroy a planet. Not by a puny hammer.

👆

Superman touched a stick that was in Batman hand that was connected to the source wall. Once he touched it, it blew a chunk out of the wall and Batman TANKED the destructive force of said 'force wall destruction'. SMDH.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman touched a stick that was in Batman hand

haermm2

Originally posted by carver9
Once he touched it, it blew

laughcry

Best post ever.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman touched a stick that was in Batman hand that was connected to the source wall. Once he touched it, it blew a chunk out of the wall and Batman TANKED the destructive force of said 'force wall destruction'. SMDH.

imma have to agree with you on this one my man, no indication of punching what so ever. if superman fans need a multi planet busting feat to quite the nay sayers, i posted one this page.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman touched a stick that was in Batman hand that was connected to the source wall. Once he touched it, it blew a chunk out of the wall and Batman TANKED the destructive force of said 'force wall destruction'. SMDH.
Carver, it's because he's BATMAN! The sooner you accept Batman as a high cosmic level, the sooner your life will make sense. sneer

Originally posted by carver9
Superman touched a stick that was in Batman hand that was connected to the source wall. Once he touched it, it blew a chunk out of the wall and Batman TANKED the destructive force of said 'force wall destruction'. SMDH.

Haha, what? Superman was using Highfather's staff as a tether to pull himself out of Source wall. The staff doesn't has the power to free someone from Source Wall.

Batman was on the planet which got sucked in the source wall which was lightyears away from the source wall. Seriously, you're the worst.

facepalm

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
haermm2

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