Originally posted by jinzinThat's your opinion obviously. Shield sent Blade solo to take down a North Korean nuclear facility undetected. Walk in the park.
I don't recall them ever saying that..They said Blade was the best man for the job.. Why? Everyone they had that was worth acrap was out fighting Steve's people.
Originally posted by jinzinYour post is all speculation. Blade was forced into fighting Logan against his will as he makes very clear. Blade usually only kills vampires and that's another reason to assume Blade was just doing his job. Lucky for Wolverine he had a change of heart.
No need, I've got proof, and more proof, and more proof..Yes you are a fanboy.. You THINK Blade won that fight.. You have yet to respond to the post that I kept leaving you because.. you can't... but you ignore what you don't like in an attempt to make Blade look better than he is.
But he needed a whole fight to measure Logan up?
Contradictions anyone?Stabbed through internal organs and shot at the heart...
What do you feel WOULD have been able to take Logan down?
Oh yeah a throat slash... 🙄Please, unless Wolverine's being written by Ennis and fighting Punisher, or is in Astonishing, that ain't gonna likely work.
Thus, if he was more skilled why did he have to wait for an opponening? Couldn't he have just taken Logan down with his skill?
Oh wait, he got slashed twice with warning before he even managed to land an offensive.Guess not.
And Wolverine was shaking in his boots "do your worst".. Why? because it wouldn't have worked.. that's why.
There fixed it for ya.
Originally posted by YFZ 350
That's your opinion obviously.
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Yes Blade is >>> Clor, The New Thunderbolts, Iron Spidey, and Iron Man....
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Originally posted by YFZ 350
Shield sent Blade solo to take down a North Korean nuclear facility undetected.
I'm not sure how you think that something like that would equate to taking Wolverine down or being on par with ANY of their mid tier metahumans nevermind the big guns.
Similarly I'm not sure how that's supposed to be remotely impressive... When he sneaks into the white house, the x-mansion, and the baxter building undetected you can tell me all about how impressive Blade is k.
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Your post is all speculation. Blade was forced into fighting Logan against his will as he makes very clear. Blade usually only kills vampires and that's another reason to assume Blade was just doing his job. Lucky for Wolverine he had a change of heart.
Speculation has nothing to do with me thinking that a throat slice or a gut slice would be just as ineffective as a thrust... it's all in what has failed to put Logan down before, again and again.... 😐
The rest was me asking you for an explanation.
Lucky for Wolverine's conscience maybe for having to kill a hero if Blade persisted...
Again, respond to me big post... Until you do,Blade lost that fight indisputably.
Originally posted by jinzinShield picking Blade was a testament to his skills. Why the hell would they go through all of the work to catch him? Obviously they felt Blade was more up to the challenge than Morbius was. And I'm pretty sure Morbius has given Spiderman some hell in the past. Matter of fact I wonder why Punisher or Silver Samurai wasn't selected for the job?
😂Yes Blade is >>> Clor, The New Thunderbolts, Iron Spidey, and Iron Man....
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I'm not sure how you think that something like that would equate to taking Wolverine down or being on par with ANY of their mid tier metahumans nevermind the big guns.
Similarly I'm not sure how that's supposed to be remotely impressive... When he sneaks into the white house, the x-mansion, and the baxter building undetected you can tell me all about how impressive Blade is k.
Speculation has nothing to do with me thinking that a throat slice or a gut slice would be just as ineffective as a thrust... it's all in what has failed to put Logan down before, again and again.... 😐
The rest was me asking you for an explanation.
Lucky for Wolverine's conscience maybe for having to kill a hero if Blade persisted...
Again, respond to me big post... Until you do,Blade lost that fight indisputably.
Breaking into a North Korean nuclear facility is pretty impressive anyway you look at it. You can't argue that intelligently.
Blade usually makes a habit to kill only vampires. As far as I know Logan is not a vampire. On top of that Blade's actions dictate he was not even remotely interested in a fight. Blade going for such passive maneuvers against Wolverine was very obvious. I mean if he was actually trying to kill Wolverine I think he would have used different tactics or maybe even using the vial alot earlier than he did.
What post are you talking about? Most likely is was full of Wolverine love and I have missed it.
This is still being debated? Wow I say.
Anyways here's the way I see it. There is sufficient evidence to support both guys were not really going at it full force imo. Logan attacking Blade with his claws not popped can be argued for Wolverine and Blade just standing there after he stabbed Wolverine and just looked at him and watched as he got closer to him and slashed his face.(Which can be argued Blade rolled with)
Speculation has nothing to do with me thinking that a throat slice or a gut slice would be just as ineffective as a thrust... it's all in what has failed to put Logan down before, again and again....The rest was me asking you for an explanation.
Lucky for Wolverine's conscience maybe for having to kill a hero if Blade persisted...
Again, respond to me big post... Until you do,Blade lost that fight indisputably.
what consciene? how many times has wolverine almost gutted fellow heroes but were stopped short of ending the, even when hydra took over his mind he seemed to only be fighting against the mhalf heartedly, in combat with them he only cared to preserve himself
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Shield picking Blade was a testament to his skills. Why the hell would they go through all of the work to catch him? Obviously they felt Blade was more up to the challenge than Morbius was. And I'm pretty sure Morbius has given Spiderman some hell in the past. Matter of fact I wonder why Punisher or Silver Samurai wasn't selected for the job?
Or a testiment to their lack of resources.. again, you think Blade>>> New Thunderbolts, Clor, and Iron Man.. that's fanboy speak.
Morbius is clearly less likely to maintain an objective than Blade. Morbius even in full transformation has been > pissed of Spidey.
Yeah,you must wonder cause you're fanboy vision prohibits you from seeing obvious facts.
Silver Samurai lost his hand to Wolverine in their last fight and then dissapeared. Punisher was fighting for Captain America's side... Blade was available and easy to capture..
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Breaking into a North Korean nuclear facility is pretty impressive anyway you look at it. You can't argue that intelligently.
Not when it's compared to the other feats I just posted.
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Blade usually makes a habit to kill only vampires. As far as I know Logan is not a vampire. On top of that Blade's actions dictate he was not even remotely interested in a fight. Blade going for such passive maneuvers against Wolverine was very obvious. I mean if he was actually trying to kill Wolverine I think he would have used different tactics or maybe even using the vial alot earlier than he did.
Again, I've already responded to this vile nonsense in my large post to which you've yet to supply a suitable response.
And again, different tactics with the weapons he had would STILL be ineffective.
Originally posted by YFZ 350The large post where I pointedout every flaw in your reasoning. The one where "you like Blade and that's enough".
What post are you talking about? Most likely is was full of Wolverine love and I have missed it.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
why? hes shown enoug hskill/strength/speed to be able to take on gorgon
The guy he fought had not held a sword in a millena thats far from makign him a skilled swordsmen. Not to mention nothing that vampire did puts him on par with gorgon physically.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
no he not. DO you ever undertsand how badly gorgon would ****ing stomp the ever living shit out of blade?The guy he fought had not held a sword in a millena thats far from makign him a skilled swordsmen. Not to mention nothing that vampire did puts him on par with gorgon physically.
damn I didn't see that, that might be the most fanboyish statement yet.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
and had not held a sword in a millena...........that far from being impressive defeat.
Ok but you dont think then that it could be argued that Blade is a better swordsman? If you want to argue that the guy is less skilled because he hasnt used a sword in a million years then it could be argued that Blade is better because Wolverine hardly uses a sword.
Blade also apparently beat Dracula in a swordfight and Dracula is trained in swordsmanship.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah but that fight didn't last long enough for anything to really happen. Which series?
Yeah but he was injured in one leg and was able to breifly fight against an enhanced mutant with better training. Therefore with both his legs he should be able to last longer.....right?
Not sure what series all I know its the 80s.
Originally posted by Battlehammerexcept that he had been a swordsmaster, nothing points out that he is any les skilled than he was all those years ago
no he not. DO you ever undertsand how badly gorgon would ****ing stomp the ever living shit out of blade?The guy he fought had not held a sword in a millena thats far from makign him a skilled swordsmen. Not to mention nothing that vampire did puts him on par with gorgon physically.
and peit jean (I trid to post the scans but you have t ocheeck out the respect thread for them to work) was definently stronger and more powerful than gorgon
and gorgons speed feats are very similar to blades, according to him, the world slows down for him simlar to how it slows down for blade, which is how he was able t ospin his sword and blck bullets, just how blade spun a chain in order to block machine gun fire
blade has speed and strength feats to suggest he is on par with wolverine, in fact gorgon probably wouldve beaten wolverine had wolverine not saved himself with his claw stunt
in that scan apprently you skipped over how blade was fighting the sword master whlie weakened, and was still able to survive the explosion than engulfed the entire area without a scratch
Originally posted by Battlehammerhow about his ountless defeats of dracula, who has been a warrior and faught countless battles far longe rthan wolverine has...in fact from what I've seen dracula has beaten wolverine easily
and had not held a sword in a millena...........that far from being impressive defeat.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
how about his ountless defeats of dracula, who has been a warrior and faught countless battles far longe rthan wolverine has...in fact from what I've seen dracula has beaten wolverine easily
Good point. Im starting to think that really in terms of swordsmanship Blade should be better than Wolverine.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok but you dont think then that it could be argued that Blade is a better swordsman? If you want to argue that the guy is less skilled because he hasnt used a sword in a million years then it could be argued that Blade is better because Wolverine hardly uses a sword.
Also Logan still trained with swords and in bishudo even though he did not wield swords much in recent years in battle.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
except that he had been a swordsmaster, nothing points out that he is any les skilled than he was all those years ago
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
them to work) was definently stronger and more powerful than gorgon
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and gorgons speed feats are very similar to blades, according to him, the world slows down for him simlar to how it slows down for blade, which is how he was able t ospin his sword and blck bullets, just how blade spun a chain in order to block machine gun fire
The shield agents were barly moving in gorgon eyes. Blade has never shown anything like that. All we have blade saying is “the world slows down for me”, but not showing to any degree closes to gorgon level.
Hell Blade not even faster then wolverine let a lone gorgon level.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade has speed and strength feats to suggest he is on par with wolverine, in fact gorgon probably wouldve beaten wolverine had wolverine not saved himself with his claw stunt
Gorgon would beat wolverine and he would wtf stomp blade badly 10/10.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
in that scan apprently you skipped over how blade was fighting the sword master whlie weakened, and was still able to survive the explosion than engulfed the entire area without a scratch
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
how about his ountless defeats of dracula, who has been a warrior and faught countless battles far longe rthan wolverine has...in fact from what I've seen dracula has beaten wolverine easily
Originally posted by Battlehammer
That’s not the same thing at all. Logan hardly wielding a sword in recent years can not be compare to an individual who has not wielded a sword in a millena. That two vastly different things.Also Logan still trained with swords and in bishudo even though he did not wield swords much in recent years in battle.
They are two serperate things but they are similar. In order to retian your skills you need to practice. Wolverine has been trained in swordsmanship but he hardly uses it. The difference is that the swordman had not used a sword in a much longer time period.
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Originally posted by jinzin
It doesn't really, everyone here just knows that Wolverine wins this fight so they're trying to keep things interesting by debating other stuff.😂
Wow, Blade needs the Mura Masa to stay competative with Logan.. Sounds about right.
He still wouldn't take the majority.
and the mura masa if for the fight with preperation
but still not enoug hfeats have provided honestly all feats shown wolverine and blade have similar speed, practically the same, unless you can provide feats that surpass the ones presented as most of them are on par with each other
blades strength is stated to be about a ton, wolverine is officially only peak human, can someone find a strength thes above peak human or about a ton to put them on equal strength terms
as for durability, blade has a better healing facotr, but blade has sohwn while he doesnt heal as fast blows short of killing blows dont slow him(wolverine could hack through him but anything short of decapitation/destruction of the heart won't stop blade),
still on the subject of durability blade still took a powerful explosion without a scratch, (not comparable to nitros explosion, but nitros explosio ndid put wolverine down) so ahs blade taken such an explosion with relatively no damage taken?
skill - fans will both state there favorite is more skilled, wolverine mainly because he's beaten "big-named" heroes, while blade has taken down "big named" demons and have rarely crossed paths.
blade has however taken out dracula easliy while dracula has beaten the x-men (but blade is better equpped to fight an enemy like dracula)
really this fight can go either way without preperation wolverine 5-6/10
with preperation blade 6-7/10