Originally posted by Master-Borg
if you're not nearly as skilled as someone else, you're clearly not a master of it. mastery means being as good as possible.
not true in terms of MA. One can be a master and yet not be as skilled as another.
also one can master a sword in terms of one style. While another swordsmen can nown numerous styles of master with a sword makign him far better.
Hell there a samuria that prove.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
and you dare accuse others of wanking on characters?
Logan has better training and at least as much if not greater experiences with swords.
He also trained and master several styles of swordmenship under some of the greatest masters to ever live. He also was train by the greatest and most experienced swordmen to ever live.
Originally posted by Battlehammerhahahhaha ok whatever man....you're hopeless
yes.Logan has better training and at least as much if not greater experiences with swords.
He also trained and master several styles of swordmenship under some of the greatest masters to ever live. He also was train by the greatest and most experienced swordmen to ever live.
Blade, a guy who fights with a sword his entire life, is now less skilled than Logan, who barely ever fights with a sword, just because he had some impressive training
you need to stop drinking whatever you're drinking
Originally posted by Master-Borg
hahahhaha ok whatever man....you're hopeless
Originally posted by Master-Borg
Blade, a guy who fights with a sword his entire life,
Originally posted by Master-Borg
is now less skilled than Logan, who barely ever fights with a sword, just because he had some impressive training
Originally posted by Master-Borg
you need to stop drinking whatever you're drinking
Water?
Maybe you should start reading some comic before speaking.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
if he has MASTERY over sword fighting....then how can someone be vastly better sword fighter than him? do you even read what you post anymore?!
Master is a title given to someone when they've established their proficiency in a skill or trade. Blade can be considered a master, but doesn't necessary make him equal to other sword masters.
Think of it in terms of awards--- Olympic Gold Medals, Noble Peace Prizes, Cy Young Awards.... it doesn't really matter which. If you were to compare recipients, could you really say they were all equal in skill? No, you couldn't many could be close to others in skill and ability, but there are those who are just flat out better than the others.
My favorite example would be boxing. Ignore the physical abilities of two champions from different weight classes, and compare their fighting prowess. They can be good, they might be great... but I can assure you, they are not at the same level.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Master is a title given to someone when they've established their proficiency in a skill or trade. Blade can be considered a master, but doesn't necessary make him equal to other sword masters.Think of it in terms of awards--- Olympic Gold Medals, Noble Peace Prizes, Cy Young Awards.... it doesn't really matter which. If you were to compare recipients, could you really say they were all equal in skill? No, you couldn't many could be close to others in skill and ability, but there are those who are just flat out better than the others.
My favorite example would be boxing. Ignore the physical abilities of two champions from different weight classes, and compare their fighting prowess. They can be good, they might be great... but I can assure you, they are not at the same level.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
if he has MASTERY over sword fighting....then how can someone be vastly better sword fighter than him? do you even read what you post anymore?!
C'mon.... are you honestly about to argue that "masters" of Judo and Karate are equal to people Like Cap and Logan just because they're well skilled in what they learned.
To the average everyday goon, thug, or vamp Blade might be a master. To guys like Gorgon, Ogun, or Shingen he's a joke.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
hahahhaha ok whatever man....you're hopelessBlade, a guy who fights with a sword his entire life, is now less skilled than Logan, who barely ever fights with a sword, just because he had some impressive training
you need to stop drinking whatever you're drinking
Wolverine took apart a Shiva android, and Nuke with his Mura Masa WITHOUT effort.
Ogun trained him in swordsmanship for years.. He tought a LIFETIME worth of skill to Kitty Pride in a few days.. You do the math.
He's also fought multiple people with a sword while blindfolded.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Becuases why?Becuases he more expeirenced wait no he not.
Becuases he has better training oh wait that Logan.
so pleases I love to hear why he comes out on top
because Blade IS more experienced. the guy fights with a sword his entire life...I dont care if Logan received some training from some expert...fighting everyday with a sword makes you a better sword fighter. pretty simple actually.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
because Blade IS more experienced.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
the guy fights with a sword his entire life
Originally posted by Master-Borg
...I dont care if Logan received some training from some expert...fighting everyday with a sword makes you a better sword fighter. pretty simple actually.
Logan started studying Bishudo at the age of 16 which is younger then when Blade started sword training and Logans older.
Logan trained under many different masters. One of which who he spent years with in the Ogun who is the greatest swordsmen to ever live. Logan was taught and master 13 styles of swordmenship alone under this one master, not even counting the other masters he studied under.
He wielded swords through out the majority of his life until weapon x. Hell even after weapon x he still wielded swords, and trained with them. Hell he defeated sabertooth 3 times with swords.
Your just ignorant. Logan has far greater training and just as much if not greater experiences.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
I just did...and Blade comes out ahead in swordsmanship.
and why? Because his name is Blade.
And he's known as a master swordsman.
ooooh oooooh and he kills vampires..... 😐
yeah, that speaks volumes about being better pffft..
Originally posted by Master-Borg
because Blade IS more experienced. the guy fights with a sword his entire life...I dont care if Logan received some training from some expert...fighting everyday with a sword makes you a better sword fighter. pretty simple actually.
anyways.. "I don't care" exactly you don't care about the real reasons and proof that show Wolverine being equal or superior in skill you just BELIEVE that Blade's better for no reason and THINK that's enough..
Well, it isn't.
Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine took apart a Shiva android, and Nuke with his Mura Masa WITHOUT effort.Ogun trained him in swordsmanship for years.. He tought a LIFETIME worth of skill to Kitty Pride in a few days.. You do the math.
He's also fought multiple people with a sword while blindfolded.
Ive started reading Wolverine comics and just like I guessed you seem to blow thing out of proportion. I dont understand how Wolverine taking out a Shiva android with a weapon that was described by SS as "the ultimate weapon" proves anything. 😬
Im inclined to think that Wolverine is better with a sword. Wolverine may have had better training and more experience but MBs point about Blade using a sword all the time is not without merit.
Wolverine has centuries of training but Punisher always tends to do well against him in H2H and he doesnt have half the training Wolverine has. Before you start whining about Einnis..... HES DONE WELL IN OTHER FIGHTS WITH WOLVERINE THAT EXCLUDE EINNIS THEREFORE EINNIS IS NOT BAD WRITING
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ive started reading Wolverine comics and just like I guessed you seem to blow thing out of proportion. I dont understand how Wolverine taking out a Shiva android with a weapon that was described by SS as "the ultimate weapon" proves anything. 😬
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Wolverine has centuries of training but Punisher always tends to do well against him in H2H and he doesnt have half the training Wolverine has. Before you start whining about Einnis.....[B] HES DONE WELL IN OTHER FIGHTS WITH WOLVERINE THAT EXCLUDE EINNIS THEREFORE EINNIS IS NOT BAD WRITING [/B]
Oh and it really is just ennis.
Punisher did slightly good in one other encounter, but in the same issue was KO by a glancing blow.
He also been wtf toyed with. And Logan beat a robotic clone of Punisher pretty dam badly who seem to simply be a punisher+
Originally posted by Battlehammer
When did ss say this? Seeing as how he never seen the weapon that sounds pretty weird statement and all but hyperbole if it even was said.
YES HE DID. Wolverine Origins issue 2. No he hasnt seen the bloody weapon but he obvously was given information on the sword by his family (maybe). Also the reports of what the sword did to the Shiva robot indicated how lethal the weapon was.
When SS said that it was the ultimate weapon all he meant was that it was dangerous.
Originally posted by BattlehammerLogan has wtf stomp people much better then Punisher.
Oh and it really is just ennis.
Punisher did slightly good in one other encounter, but in the same issue was KO by a glancing blow.
He also been wtf toyed with. And Logan beat a robotic clone of Punisher pretty dam badly who seem to simply be a punisher+
WOLVERINE 186 and the fight that Punsiher had with him while injured intrhe jungle. NOT EINNIS!!!!!!