Blade vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by jinzin
Your mind is dense as your fanboyism is strong.
Yes lack of recources. As all their recources that were worth a crap were fighting a war that was being waged from the US to Wakanda and back.

Punisher was on Cap's team halfway through the war. Wolverine jumped out of Maria Hill's Hellicarrier at the end...

DP, that's a good question. Maybe he was doing exactly what I said, already fighting in the Civil War.
Lol, Sabretooth? You realize the guys at weapon X went after Wolverine and flat out ignored capturing Sabretooth because he's too dangerous right?

😂

Yeah SHIELD hires Sabretooth, the guy who inadvertantly caused the downfall of the new Weapon X program and killed an army of Hydra agents... that's smart.
Really, cause two pages of capture doesn't seem like a lot of trouble.

The bottom line is that Blade tried to fight Logan and got curb stomped just like he would in this thread and you can't accept it.

Ah yes... "do your worst" He totally backed down... 🙄 delusional fanboyism.

Logic check: SHIELD can't capture Wolveirne, but SHIELD can capture people who can capture Wolverine?

Return: Odds are anyone whom SHIELD can capture, can't capture Wolverine, since SHIELD can't capture wolverine.
Wolverine>SHIELD> Whomever SHIELD captures.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hey Jinzin check this out

Logic check: SHIELD can't capture Wolveirne, but SHIELD can capture people who can capture Wolverine?

Return: Odds are anyone whom SHIELD can capture, can't capture Wolverine, since SHIELD can't capture wolverine.
Wolverine>SHIELD> Whomever SHIELD captures.

yup already covered that one but the Blade fanboys think that Blade was holding back and that's the only reason SHIELD captured him.

So to them

Blade>Wolverine>Shield>Logic. 😬

but of course this is the same group that keeps telling us over and over that Wolverine's peak human according to old "official" stats and THEN telling us that Blades as good a fighter as Wolverine in spite of the fact that the same "official" sources say that Wolverine>Blade in fighting skill.

Originally posted by jinzin
yup already covered that one but the Blade fanboys think that Blade was holding back and that's the only reason SHIELD captured him.

So to them

Blade>Wolverine>Shield>Logic. 😬

Why is it everytime you get into a debate with somebody they're a fanboy? Blade fanboys, Punisher fanboys, Captain America fanboys. Well we do know that he wasnt there to kill him. To be quite frank the fight seemed like a joke. "Sorry I couldnt hear you over the gunfire" NOT " Holy shit I just shot you and your still up!!!!" You can clearly see he was not suprised by that.

Originally posted by jinzin

but of course this is the same group that keeps telling us over and over that Wolverine's peak human according to old "official" stats and THEN telling us that Blades as good a fighter as Wolverine in spite of the fact that the same "official" sources say that Wolverine>Blade in fighting skill.

Who are you talking about? Where do official sources say that Wolverine is better.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Why is it everytime you get into a debate with somebody they're a fanboy? Blade fanboys, Punisher fanboys, Captain America fanboys. Well we do know that he wasnt there to kill him. To be quite frank the fight seemed like a joke. "Sorry I couldnt hear you over the gunfire" NOT " Holy shit I just shot you and your still up!!!!" You can clearly see he was not suprised by that.

Not everytime... You're a widely known Punisher/Cap fanboy, thus I would emphasize that when we get into those debates and I feel you're being unreasonable or giving parties an unfair and illogical benefit of the doubt.

These ARE Blade fanboys. At this point they've argued that Blade won that fight, that Blades>Wolverine in fighting ability, that Blade>SHIELD, New Thunderbolts, Iron Man, Etc, that Blade is > Logan in strength, that Logan's a peak human.

I wouldn't expect Blade to lose his cool in a fight, from what I've seen of the character that's just not how he's portrayed even when his ass IS in the frying pan. But you can't honestly defend this veiwpoint that he won that fight, not when Logan hits him clawless in the face at the beginning of it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Who are you talking about? Where do official sources say that Wolverine is better.

Handbooks list Blade at a level 5 in fighting ability and Logan a level 7. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Not everytime... You're a widely known Punisher/Cap fanboy, thus I would emphasize that when we get into those debates and I feel you're being unreasonable or giving parties an unfair and illogical benefit of the doubt.

Im not going to argue with you. **** what people think, so dont bother telling me.

Originally posted by jinzin

These ARE Blade fanboys. At this point they've argued that Blade won that fight, that Blades>Wolverine in fighting ability, that Blade>SHIELD, New Thunderbolts, Iron Man, Etc, that Blade is > Logan in strength, that Logan's a peak human.

I wouldn't expect Blade to lose his cool in a fight, from what I've seen of the character that's just not how he's portrayed even when his ass IS in the frying pan. But you can't honestly defend this veiwpoint that he won that fight, not when Logan hits him clawless in the face at the beginning of it.

Look im not going to argue with you. As far as im concerned the fight with Wolverine and Blade and sucked and it didnt make Blade look good. However looking at Blade other showings he shoudl ahve put up a better fight but I think Wolverine should have won.

Originally posted by jinzin

Destiny Guy, and Snoop when he was arguing here.

Handbooks list Blade at a level 5 in fighting ability and Logan a level 7. 😬

And? What I dont like is the hypcorisy because there point are not without merit. Wolverine is probably rated highier then DD that didnt stop him from taking on Wolverine and Hand ninjas? Wolverine is a 7 that didnt stop and injured Punisher being able to hold off breifly. The fact that hes rated highier in MA does not neccesarily mean a goddman thing

I know what you're going to say....prove that Wolverines brainwashing affected his hand to hand skills. Answer this post please.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Yeah but he was injured in one leg and was able to breifly fight against an enhanced mutant with better training. Therefore with both his legs he should be able to last longer.....right?

you know whats also funny and left out. Logan claws can cut any of blades weapons in haft.

Logan has vastly more experiences dealing with swordsmen of extreme skill then Blade is dealing with Logan type claws. I mean besides his fight with Wolverine when has he faced claws like this? I not even talking adamatium

Also Blades a down graded version of one of Wolverines rogues

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

I know what you're going to say....prove that Wolverines brainwashing affected his hand to hand skills. Answer this post please.

It common knowledge brain wahsing effects a characters skill. becuases the character is not fighting to there fullest.

Logan even states he was fighting the mind control as ahrd as he could. How the hell can some one be using all there skill and still be fighting mind control as ahrd as they can?

Not to mention the fact the mind control was ****ing with his brain making him think thoughts and do things that were not his own.

oh as for the punisher crap. For one thing Logan did not even know it was Punisher. For two Logan was injured in the legg as well. three no person with punisher training would firer a gun after the damage it took and all honesty the gun should not have worked and could have easily back firered.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It common knowledge brain wahsing effects a characters skill. becuases the character is not fighting to there fullest.

Logan even states he was fighting the mind control as ahrd as he could. How the hell can some one be using all there skill and still be fighting mind control as ahrd as they can?

Not to mention the fact the mind control was ****ing with his brain making him think thoughts and do things that were not his own.

oh as for the punisher crap. For one thing Logan did not even know it was Punisher. For two Logan was injured in the legg as well. three no person with punisher training would firer a gun after the damage it took and all honesty the gun should not have worked and could have easily back firered.

No its not common knowledge it depends. Show me where in that issue he was fighting the programming.

Yeah his fighting skils were so messed up he was fast enough to kill Northstar and Northstar said that he was given upgrades.....utter rubbish.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No its not common knowledge it depends. Show me where in that issue he was fighting the programming.

Then through out the arc they talk about him fighting the mind control.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah his fighting skils were so messed up he was fast enough to kill Northstar and Northstar said that he was given upgrades.....utter rubbish.

also have you even read the issue or are you pulling a master bruces? talking about an issue you have never read?

Becuases logan uses stealth to get northstar and kitty phased. it was due to the circumstances.

also it is common knowledge that hero's while mind control don't fight at there best. Which makes senses sinces there being forces against there will to fight.

also when did northstar say he was given upgrades? Becuases I don't recall that. also why would that matter? the "upgrades" were ps blocker and teleporting devices.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
He states it at the end of the dd fight. he goes "tell nick I tried my best to stop them from bagging another mask"

Then through out the arc they talk about him fighting the mind control.

how does speed have to do with skill?

also have you even read the issue or are you pulling a master bruces? talking about an issue you have never read?

Becuases logan uses stealth to get northstar and kitty phased. it was due to the circumstances.

also it is common knowledge that hero's while mind control don't fight at there best. Which makes senses sinces there being forces against there will to fight.

also when did northstar say he was given upgrades? Becuases I don't recall that. also why would that matter? the "upgrades" were ps blocker and teleporting devices.

YES I read both issues. 😐 Yes Northstar said they were given upgrades it was 1 or two issues after ETOS.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
YES I read both issues. 😐 Yes Northstar said they were given upgrades it was 1 or two issues after ETOS.

.........you mean agent of shield and he was refferring to him self not wolverine. And he unlike wolverine, was actuall given a real upgrades not technology.

and the issue north star died is not the issue in which he said the comment you reverences........

you reverences more then two issues........so you only read two outa three?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
well clearlly you did not read it thoroughly or it been a while.

.........you mean agent of shield and he was refferring to him self not wolverine. And he unlike wolverine was actuall given real upgrades not technology.

Yeah well you dindt read Origins properly you were the one asking wether SS said the mursa was the ultimate weapon and he said that word for word. *puts on whiney voice* why didnt you read it properly.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

and the issue north star died is not the issue in which he said the comment you reverences........

you reverences more then two issues........so you only read two outa three?

What hell are you talking about now? I referneced three issues did I state what issues they were? So why are you makign assumptions?

You know what I dont know about the brainwashing during the actual fight with DD it didnt look like he was fighting anything.,As for this.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

oh as for the punisher crap. For one thing Logan did not even know it was Punisher. For two Logan was injured in the legg as well. three no person with punisher training would firer a gun after the damage it took and all honesty the gun should not have worked and could have easily back firered.

Its not relevant wether he knew its was the Punisher or not in fact that means Wolverine would not have held back. Wolverine leg healed by the time Punsiher got to him.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah well you dindt read Origins properly you were the one asking wether SS said the mursa was the ultimate weapon and he said that word for word. *puts on whiney voice* why didnt you read it properly.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
What hell are you talking about now? I referneced three issues did I state what issues they were? So why are you makign assumptions?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You know what I dont know about the brainwashing during the actual fight with DD it didnt look like he was fighting anything.,As for this.
?

pleases he stated he was trying as hard as he could not to kill a mask.

He was fighting the brainwashing/mind control the entire arc.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Its not relevant wether he knew its was the Punisher or not in fact that means Wolverine would not have held back. Wolverine leg healed by the time Punsiher got to him.

also in the same issue punisher was KO by a single attack from Logan so are you sure you want to uses that issue as evidences?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actaully I thought you were confussing origins and endings with origins the entire time.

You stated you read both issues...........and yet you refferences three issues........so it seems you never read the third issue........wh
ich you were reffencing......

Logan was brain washed the entire time...........

pleases he stated he was trying as hard as he could not to kill a mask.

He was fighting the brainwashing/mind control the entire arc.

actaully it means a big deal. Logan attacking some random sloop is not going to bother with any real effort, but vs punisher he would give far greater effort.

also in the same issue punisher was KO by a single attack from Logan so are you sure you want to uses that issue as evidences?

Wolverine fought DD in issue 24
Wolverine killed Northstar in Wolverine issue 25
Northstar said Wolverine had upgrades in Wolverine issue 28

Dont respond to my posts anymore NEVER PM ever again. You make some valid points but you're problem is you cant accept that you can ever be wrong and because of that you tend to twist things around alot. Ive had enough of you.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Dont respond to my posts anymore NEVER PM ever again. You make some valid points but you're problem is you cant accept that you can ever be wrong and because of that you tend to twist things around alot. Ive had enough of you.

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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Wolverine fought DD in issue 24
Wolverine killed Northstar in Wolverine issue 25
Northstar said Wolverine had upgrades in Wolverine issue 28

Dont respond to my posts anymore NEVER PM ever again. You make some valid points but you're problem is you cant accept that you can ever be wrong and because of that you tend to twist things around alot. Ive had enough of you.

was that suposes to prove some thing? you could have simply google it......which is likly what you did.........

LOL the pot calling the kettle black.

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hmm

hahahaha, don't bother with him. he a spaz, he illogical, he a fanboy, he argues things he has never read, it an improvement if he stops talking to me.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
was that suposes to prove some thing? you could have simply google it......which is likly what you did.........

LOL the pot calling the kettle black.

Ok google Wolverine issue 28 and try and find info that indicates that Northstar said that Wolverine got upgrades.

Google Wolverine Origins and try and find info where Silver Samurai said that the mursa was the ultimate weapon......those exact words.

lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No I cant actually google them and find that information which indicates he must have read it. Instead of apologising i'll just fob him off by saying...lol