Secret Apprentice VS RoT Darth Bane

Originally posted by truejedi
once again, we have no proof he actually pulls it down,

We have no proof? How is the cover of the novelization iteslf 'no proof'? What, do you really believe the author would be stupid enough to place that picture in the cover of the book while knowing it would be non-canon? Sense. You make none.

i would also like to point out, that he probably knows thousands of force moves NO ONE else knows

I hope you don't really mean that many Force moves... and I doubt it. Please, I'd like you to name two Force moves the apprentice has displayed which 'no one else knows'.

because whenever he chokes somebody in the force (if you watch the trailers on LucasArts.com) he creates cool little glowy neon lights that i've never seen any other force-choker create! same with force push!

Those 'little glowy neon lights' are most likely gameplay, and probably do not mean anything, nor change anything.

not only does he push everyone back, but he also uses the force in minute ways to subtly rearrange the molecular structure of the air around his targets in order to change the color of light those molecules absorb!

Do you have a link for this video? I would certainly like to see it.

as a final argument as to the greatness of the apprentice, he can thrust his light saber into the chest of a stormtrooper, leave it there for a few seconds, while once again manipulating the molecules into changing color on the visible spectrum

I think you are misunderstanding. I heavily doubt the creators of the game were even aware their character was 'manipulating the molecules into changing color on the visible spectrum'...

and then pull it out, the stormtrooper drops dead, but there isn't a mark on him! amazingly, the secret apprentice has used the force to rebond, at the very least, his stormtrooper armor

Oh, c'mon... it's a videogame. You can't expect it to be perfect.

The apprentice didn't use raw power to pull the Star Destroyer. He manipulates it. He has the help of gravity, and he simply manipulates controls, vents, conduits, hydraulics, navigations, computers. The first pull is him breaking the pilots hands, though. Then he uses force to manipulate the other elements.
And that is still impressive, but no, he does not bring it straight down.

And for example, another way would be to change the molecular bonds in the fuel making it useless.

But he still probably could bring it down with raw force.
"Size matters not"

Luke: "I don't.. I don't believe it.."
Yoda: "That, is why you fail"

Yoda: "Only different in your mind"

Some quotes, also showing that any Jedi or Sith dedicated enough could take down a Star Destroyer. If you get rid of the chains of your mind, you could do great things.

Originally posted by tauros
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But he still probably could bring it down with raw force.
"Size matters not" [/B]

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
say what?

Originally posted by truejedi
once again, we have no proof he actually pulls it down

Because they haven't gotten rid of their limitations.

And it's canon, so.. 😛

the fact is he could bring a ship down..read my above post..

No-one is denying that he brought the ship down.

Originally posted by tauros
The apprentice didn't use raw power to pull the Star Destroyer. He manipulates it. He has the help of gravity, and he simply manipulates controls, vents, conduits, hydraulics, navigations, computers. The first pull is him breaking the pilots hands, though. Then he uses force to manipulate the other elements.

Originally posted by tauros
And for example, another way would be to change the molecular bonds in the fuel making it useless.

Originally posted by tauros
But he still probably could bring it down with raw force.
"Size matters not"

Yes, size matters for people, but only because they haven't gotten rid of their limitations. So if you COULD get rid of everything you have been taught and seen, how a planet is heavier than a flower etc, you could move a planet as easy as a flower.

I agree with Tauros

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
We have no proof? How is the cover of the novelization iteslf 'no proof'? What, do you really believe the author would be stupid enough to place that picture in the cover of the book while knowing it would be non-canon? Sense. You make none.

I hope you don't really mean that many Force moves... and I doubt it. Please, I'd like you to name [B]two Force moves the apprentice has displayed which 'no one else knows'.

Those 'little glowy neon lights' are most likely gameplay, and probably do not mean anything, nor change anything.

Do you have a link for this video? I would certainly like to see it.

I think you are misunderstanding. I heavily doubt the creators of the game were even aware their character was 'manipulating the molecules into changing color on the visible spectrum'...

Oh, c'mon... it's a videogame. You can't expect it to be perfect. [/B]

Originally posted by truejedi
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it was sarcasm.. my whole post.. it would have behooved you to recognize that. except wait... the first part: it may be that he pulls down a star destoyer, but the fact that he is standing in front of a star destroyer that has come down, with his hands outstretched does not CONFIRM that he actually pulled it down. So i'm holding out hope for the star wars universe before i actually see it in game play. I'm trying to be optimistic here, thats all.

He did obviously pull it down. There's nothing "breaking" the SW universe in there.

Well basically if this is allowed to happen, and all of his feats are deemed 100% canon, then the Apprentice really could be the most powerful Sith/Jedi ever. If not thee most, certainly one of the best.

Why, exactly?

Originally posted by MadMel
indeed 😈

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
can u post a link to the video?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vkno2oQaJJk

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Originally posted by tauros
The apprentice didn't use raw power to pull the Star Destroyer. He manipulates it. He has the help of gravity, and he simply manipulates controls, vents, conduits, hydraulics, navigations, computers. The first pull is him breaking the pilots hands, though. Then he uses force to manipulate the other elements.
And that is still impressive, but no, he does not bring it straight down.

You do not know that. That's a bold and unsupported argument from your part. Unless you substantiate your claims, there is no reason for anyone to think he did not bring it straight down, because that's exactly what he see him do in the video.

"Size matters not"

In this case, it does matter.

Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
You do not know that. That's a bold and unsupported argument from your part. Unless you substantiate your claims, there is no reason for anyone to think he did not bring it straight down, because that's exactly what he see him do in the video.