Well, major hitters for FF are Trance Kuja, Neo Exdeath and Ultimecia.
Trance Kuja destroyed a planet, can travel through dimensions and of course has the ability to destroy the thing that made the universe...the big bang in essence.
Neo Exdeath was a powerful mage merged with the Void and was going to annihilate every single dimension and the entire universe.
TC Ultimecia controls time. She needed help getting there but once she was there she could screw with the past and future.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
FF characters have threatened entire planets, dimensions and all of time. Warcraft barely has anything that can threaten all of Azeroth. Archimonde wasn't a threat to anything but a tree, not even a whole planet. He would get tooled by Cecil from FF IV, let alone the power houses in the OP.
Ummm.... I vote... aw crud.
this, to me, is like saying "Who's cooler, Sephiroth or Arthas?"
such a damn hard choice. But considering the choice that the Universe of Azeroth has against FF, it is Warcraft.
But it could be a DAMN cool fight one way or another. (assuming the 'demi-gods' let a fight happen)
omg you crack me up...laughing
archimonde shouldnt even be in this fight, but since he is i might as well...
if you knew anything about warcraft, youd know that the world tree is the warcraft equivilant of holy or the lifestream...if achrimonde had destroyed it, the world would have been his *****..
the only reason he didnt get destroyed his because he got hit by a blast that screwed nearly half the continent over..
The world tree is like the lifestream, and in DoC Hojo, a mere scientist who doesn't even have a physical body, managed to nearly take it away. Thanks for the evidence, chief, you've proven that Archimonde is oin the same level as a bodiless, crazy old man.
Now I'm sure you have a raid on WoW with some other silly fanboys, you're excused.
yeh the great Fascist crusader has spoken! the master of debatorz that he has proven many times........
but ill have to disagree with him here, ill prob be outdebated seriously by his incredible skillz but i have to say, Negative lifestream is prob worth half a vial of the sunwell if that, let alone well of eternity
--This is the level Terry fails at
----this is the level you fail at...a good many degrees lower than Terry
"w8s for FC to do something childish like copy and pasting this and putting me even lower than him lol"
i dont play wow.. 😬
wow is boring, like nearly all mmos ive played..
and fyi, it was a crude comparison, so that you might have a slim chance of understanding how important the world tree was...as astonishing as it may seem, it wasnt a regular tree..id like to see sephiroth try and destroy it 😛
also, dont try to call me a fanboy, when you yourself have absolutely no knowledge of warcraft characters, and yet still think that team FF has a chance of winning..
Sephiroth would take down all of Azeroth without having to touch the world tree. And even so, the lifestream is literally the planets lifeblood, far more important and harder to attack than the world tree. Sephiroth had no trouble absorbing a ton of it in FF VII, and then corrupting it after his defeat.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Archimonde is weaker than any final boss in any FF game to date. He gets his ass handed to him in the first minute of fighting. ✅
Archimonde KILLS people! He has an ability that does not wound, but KILLS. He has mastered his warlock magic to such a degree that he actually robs the target of its life. Does not damage, but declines that person from living. To even be on par with Archimonde, bosses of FF would have to hands down defeat any opposition sent to them. Archimonde fights armies by himself. He even defeated Malorne without a scratch. Archimonde destroyed a massive city without effort, a city who was supposed to be unharmable by outer magic.
Archimonde can grow to the size of a mountain, is basically indestructable, has awareness on a planetary scale, has such advance warlock magic that a thought and a flick is all it takes for him to destroy any opposition.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
FF characters have threatened entire planets, dimensions and all of time. Warcraft barely has anything that can threaten all of Azeroth. Archimonde wasn't a threat to anything but a tree, not even a whole planet. He would get tooled by Cecil from FF IV, let alone the power houses in the OP.
😂
Mannoroth, a lesser yet powerful warrior nearly laid waste to the entire planet.
Sargeras is preforming a war against the entire UNIVERSE. He lay waste to every planet he walk by. In his lifetime, he has singlehandedly defeated more soldiers than the FF universe has ever seen. He has taken beating beyond FF and not even had a scratch. He is even more endurant to damage than Mannoroth, who without a scratch took a tackle by a mighty entity that crumble mountains.
Archimonde walked trough Azeroth with a yawn. Not a large-scale attack by all the habitants of the planet could stop him. He ran over them litteraly. He destroyed the main base of the elves with a wave of his hand. The fact that you say Archimonde has not threatened anything but a tree is a horrible understatement. Although, you probably know this and are just teasing with us. Because you obviously have read the books and possess the vast quantity of knowledge required to say that he is nothing on FF. Because obviously was the feat where he snapped the neck of a Demi-God not an impressive accomplishment.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sephiroth would take down all of Azeroth without having to touch the world tree.
So could:
Archimonde, Mannoroth, Kil'Jaeden, Aman'Thul, Eonar, Norgannon, Golganneth, Khaz'Goroth, Sargeras, Aggramar, Malorne, Elune, any Old God, Ragnaros, Nozdormu, Lich King. . . . . . . . . . . .
Should I continue to bring up names that could easily match your Sephiroth in the fact that he would be capable of bringing down all of Azeroth by himself? Please. Sephiroth would be dead in a second against Archimonde. No matter how much magical power Sephiroth has, Archimonde would just clench his fist and Sephiroth would be squished.
Archimonde did not want the World Tree so that he could destroy Azeroth. He may not be a strategical genious like Kil'Jaeden, but he think further than THAT. He wanted the World Tree so that he could destroy the rest of the universe. He could have destroyed all the forces and life of Azeroth anytime he wanted.
You really do not know what you are talking about. You are probably one of them people that base their discussion on WoW and WoWWiki 😛
The World Tree was basically the spirit of the planet. It was blessed by the Aspects and its purpose was to allow the elves primarly to defend themselves from outer danger. Which failed. The World Tree would never stop one like Sargeras. If Sargeras ever placed foot on Azeroth, it would be annhiliated in moments. That is, after that he had dug up the secrets of what once was the Well of Eternity.
why do you think the legion sent their first few armies to kalimdor??
Because unlike any FF characters they weren't powerful enough for a direct attack.
The World Tree was basically the spirit of the planet.
You mean like the lifestream? The thing that Sephiroth made his *****? Yep, you're only helping me here.
So could:Archimonde, Mannoroth, Kil'Jaeden, Aman'Thul, Eonar, Norgannon, Golganneth, Khaz'Goroth, Sargeras, Aggramar, Malorne, Elune, any Old God, Ragnaros, Nozdormu, Lich King. . . . . . . . . . . .
Lying doesn't become you. Obviously these pathetic weaklings cound't do it, or else tey would have just taken out Azeroth already. Archimonde was in the process of trying to take it down because he's far too weak for a direct assault, the kind of assault Kuja did to the surface of Terra.
Oy vay, Warcraft fanboys. Almost as bad as LoK fanboys, but not quite.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Because unlike any FF characters they weren't powerful enough for a direct attack.You mean like the lifestream? The thing that Sephiroth made his *****? Yep, you're only helping me here.
Lying doesn't become you. Obviously these pathetic weaklings cound't do it, or else tey would have just taken out Azeroth already. Archimonde was in the process of trying to take it down because he's far too weak for a direct assault, the kind of assault Kuja did to the surface of Terra.
Oy vay, Warcraft fanboys. Almost as bad as LoK fanboys, but not quite.
You are a complete dumbass. ❌ He didn't want to destroy the tree, he wanted to tap it's power for the well of eternity underneath it. the tree contained the power of the well and the 5 dragon aspects. That's 5 high end gods. and each aspect was made by the titans.
Archie wanted to re-open the grand portal that was to be used for Sargeras's physical manifestation. the well is an limitless energy source that would have greatly bolstered the legion and given them unlimited access to the physical world, past the titan's safeguards.
The lifestream is nothing compared to the power of true gods.
What happened to Archie, was the full power of the tree was turned back upon him by detonating it and the well of eternity underneath. And here's the frightning thing. The well still exists.......
It's the combined source for all the magic in the world of Azeroth, power enough to destroy the world 10 times over.
Sephiroth and Kuja would be consumed by the well. The raw power burns out anything to weak to withstand it. Only a being on par with Archie or Kiljaeden can use the power and not be destroyed.