RotS Mace Windu VS RotS Count Dooku

Started by Slash_KMC14 pages
Originally posted by Gideon
I've just recognized (and proven) that he is the most powerful Force user in the mythos.

Luke FTW !

no

That's it ?

I expected, more.

You weren't complaining last night... haermm

Originally posted by Gideon
[B]Dooku's own musings that Makashi -- not him -- was unable to keep up with Djem So, which is kinetically weaker than Vaapad.

Did you get this from the crapfest that was Matt Stover's "interpretation" of the events of RoTS?

Dark Rendezvous mentions that Dooku is in superb physical shape and wore his eighty plus years better than most people half his age. And once again, Dooku noted Makashi wasn't capable of doing it.

The fact is that he's still old. Trust me I know he is fit for his advanced age. He kicked Anakin like he was nothing and later on when they were in a saberlock Dooku was there goading Anakin while Anakin was groaning sounding like he was having a hard time holding the lock. ( I still think that Dooku held back the entire fight. )

For a while there, I was theorizing that because of his age Dooku was using the force to augment his movement. No doubt he does somewhat but at the same time I recall that using the force to assist movements while in battle is a characteristic of Ataru practitioners.

Makashi is about letting your opponent tire themselves out. Dooku benefits from using Makashi if anything...

That's cool, but not relevant.

Actually it is. My cousins would use the normal two handed styles, while I was the only one who chose to use a fencing style. They're styles were agressive in nature while I mine was not so much passive but tactical. With one hand I was able to hold my own against them, in terms of the blades actually clapping against each other and kinetic force being exchanged.

If I could could spar on even terms with my cousins who were in better condition and used more aggressive forms of "swordfighting", then how is it beyond the realm of possibility that in a fantastical fantasy world it would be any different, especially considering that I'm not the most fit person and that the combatants in question are?

Reality>Books??? 😱

That's cool, but not relevant.

Just a simple musing on my part. 😛

Tons and tons of problems with this...

First, I don't hate Dooku. I recognize him to be a powerful Sith Lord. I just realize he's not the end all be all.

Second, comparing McDiarmid and Lee is irrelevant; we're comparing their characters.

Third, I'm not loyal to Palpatine. I've just recognized (and proven) that he is the most powerful Force user in the mythos, who happens to be more powerful, smarter, and greater than Dooku. Not personal preference, merely a reflection of canon truths.

I know I just felt the need to say Lee>McDiarmid. Is that ok with you KMC grand master? You like Sidious enough to write a whole essay about him though right? Hell I just named my KMC self ~Lord Tyranus~. But different strokes for different folks I guess...

Hey Gideon...

Sidious vs God.

I want to see what piece of faulty literature you'll pull an answer from this time.

😆

Just kidding..

[/B]

Originally posted by Lord Tyranus

blah blah blah...

Sidious Is God

Palpy 是神

not just any God. He is the 最強的、最努力的、最聰明的, 而且他還能用自己的力量來控制全galaxy. 他不但叻過诸葛亮, 威水過曹操,他的面還會變形的 !!!

他是天生的所以沒有人可以把所有全部的人打敗.

oops sry for double post but it was supposed to be 所以沒有人可以把他打敗.

or

所以他可會把所有全部的人打敗.

and the eariler thing was a response to Sidious vs. God.

Originally posted by Gideon
You weren't complaining last night... haermm

*Shivers*

You just made my fearmometer explode. Try to make fun of that !

... Oh, wait.

Originally posted by kotorfan
blah blah blah...

[B]Sidious Is God

Palpy 是神

not just any God. He is the 最強的、最努力的、最聰明的, 而且他還能用自己的力量來控制全galaxy. 他不但叻過诸葛亮, 威水過曹操,他的面還會變形的 !!!

他是天生的所以沒有人可以把所有全部的人打敗. [/B]

Ha, that's funny.

Yeah bitches, I can read rectangles.

Tyranus, your sarcasm is misplaced. I recall that, not too long ago, you were complaining to Darth Sexy about being rude and trolling. This:

I know I just felt the need to say Lee>McDiarmid. Is that ok with you KMC grand master? You like Sidious enough to write a whole essay about him though right? Hell I just named my KMC self ~Lord Tyranus~. But different strokes for different folks I guess...

Hey Gideon...

Sidious vs God.

I want to see what piece of faulty literature you'll pull an answer from this time.

Just kidding..

...is trolling. Now, unlike Darth Sexy, I gave you a fair shake. And you repay me by being an ass when Janus comes back? You wouldn't be the first one to unsheath the claws at me when in his presence, so I'll chalk it up to insecurities. That said, whining about manners and then acting like a troll is hypocritical; that's one thing I have zero tolerance for.

Why you felt the need to assert that Christopher Lee > Ian McDiarmid, I don't know. Not only is it completely subjective, it suggests that you are, in fact, the only fanboy here. I wrote an essay over Sidious's dominance for leisure time; it was a well researched paper and fantastically written, much to great acclaim. The topic does not make it any less scholarly or any less impressive, which was the point.

The fact of the matter is that the literature isn't faulty because you don't like it. I don't hate Dooku; I recognize him to be a powerful, talented Lord of the Sith. But Sidious is stronger, smarter, and just better for several reasons, not the least of which is that Dooku was absolutely terrified of him. The fact that the logical conclusion is that Sidious > Dooku (by a lot) doesn't make me a Sidious fanboy. It simply makes me right.

We wouldn't have had this problem if you hadn't whined to Darth Sexy about being mean. And so when you get an answer you don't like, you want to act like a jackass? Yeah, hypocritical. No wonder you and Janus get along.

Edit: For the record, I'm just screwing with you.

Originally posted by Gideon
You mean the sparring matches he won when Mace was younger? When the timeframe and circumstances aren't given? When he might not have invented Vaapad?

Excellent point Gideon! Also, even if Mace had invented Vaapad before said sparring match, he certainly wouldn't have utilized it for such a relatively insignificant situation. Vaapad isn't used unless it's deemed to be absolutely vital in regard to the situation at hand.

Originally posted by Gideon
Tyranus, your sarcasm is misplaced. I recall that, not too long ago, you were complaining to Darth Sexy about being rude and trolling. This:

...is trolling. Now, unlike Darth Sexy, I gave you a fair shake. And you repay me by being an ass when Janus comes back? You wouldn't be the first one to unsheath the claws at me when in his presence, so I'll chalk it up to insecurities. That said, whining about manners and then acting like a troll is hypocritical; that's one thing I have zero tolerance for.

Why you felt the need to assert that Christopher Lee > Ian McDiarmid, I don't know. Not only is it completely subjective, it suggests that you are, in fact, the only fanboy here. I wrote an essay over Sidious's dominance for leisure time; it was a well researched paper and fantastically written, much to great acclaim. The topic does not make it any less scholarly or any less impressive, which was the point.

The fact of the matter is that the literature isn't faulty because you don't like it. I don't hate Dooku; I recognize him to be a powerful, talented Lord of the Sith. But Sidious is stronger, smarter, and just better for several reasons, not the least of which is that Dooku was absolutely terrified of him. The fact that the logical conclusion is that Sidious > Dooku (by a lot) doesn't make me a Sidious fanboy. It simply makes me right.

We wouldn't have had this problem if you hadn't whined to Darth Sexy about being mean. And so when you get an answer you don't like, you want to act like a jackass? Yeah, hypocritical. No wonder you and Janus get along.

Edit: For the record, I'm just screwing with you.

I never said Dooku over Sids in this thread. If what I'm doing is called trolling then what your doing is called b!tching.

Me an Janus are not buddy-buddy.

I didn't whine to DS. I punked his retarded a$$, after he started acting like a lil *****.

Your as stupid as he is.

After that "critically acclaimed essay" ( you sounded really smart proclaiming that by the way ), I actually lost some respect for you.

You've always done well in the debates and bring up excellent points, but your arrogance and your "I win because you conceded to a single point I made" attitude is ridiculous.

Good day to you.

That was interesting.

Originally posted by Lord Tyranus
Your as stupid as he is.
Originally posted by Lord Tyranus
You've always done well in the debates and bring up excellent points, but your arrogance and your "I win because you conceded to a single point I made" attitude is ridiculous.

That's a major contradiction.

Originally posted by Gideon
Edit: For the record, I'm just screwing with you.

That was all sarcasm, buddy. Just a joke.

Originally posted by Gideon
That was interesting.

That's a major contradiction.

That was all sarcasm, buddy. Just a joke.

Oh my bad dude. I took it as psuedo sarcasm which is all to common on these boards. Hell I'm guilty of that shit too.

Mace Windu > Sidious > Dooku (waits for anti ABC rant, not realizing that DS used it against Nebaris and nobody complained)

who is the most recent nebaris?

SAENBR

Is there a reason this need to be brought back up?

so that 'noes' would be on every thread on the front page. I say that if he really wanted to be cool he'd have done every thread ever.

Dooku wouldn't win.

Christopher Lee would. He'd break the fourth wall and then him and Samuel L. Jackson ( in costume and character ) would go pimp slap George Lucas for Star Wars: The Cone Wars...