Originally posted by Naija boy
I have to agree with kris here. Vulcan hasnt shown to be a superior energy manipulator to the likes of Thor, surfer, or Quasar. If Warlocks magic can be taken from him by vulcan thats speaks quite poorly of his power level.
Originally posted by Naija boy
I have to agree with kris here. Vulcan hasnt shown to be a superior energy manipulator to the likes of Thor, surfer, or Quasar. If Warlocks magic can be taken from him by vulcan thats speaks quite poorly of his power level.
No, it speaks poorly of his control you could say. But power wise, he transmuted an entire planet - a feat rare even to herald level beings.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm could see Thor possibly doing it, but I doubt it would be possible for Quasar given the difficulty the Quantum Bands have with magic. TBH, it seems like manipulating mystic energy as easily as non mystic is something of a rarity unless the manipulator is a mystic himself. It seems more like a high end feat for Vulcan than a low end showing for Warlock to me...
True Quasar would probably have problems considering the quantum bands history with magic. But Surfer shouldnt have much trouble given that he has manipulated magical energy before. Thor shouldnt either given mjolnirs capabilities. I think its not a particularly good showing for warlock because as WWK said above it speaks poorly of his control. I would think that given the feats Warlock already has he would have the control to match his output. Frankly from the power level his feats imply it would seem more likely that warlock would be the one seizing control of others energy, not the other way round. IMO anyways
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
If Vulcan can claim sovereignity over Warlock's magic, then his control must be absolute shit. How's he going to fair against Surfer, Thor or -any- energy manipulator? As it stands now, he must be below Quasar or Nova even.
Vulcan made it clear. He's hella good at energy manipulation... that's his deal.
Surfer or Thor don't do that very often, even though they can.... when was the last time they pressed that ability very much?
Almost never.
DnA make it clear Vulcan was exploiting a weakness that really, only Vulcan can really take advantage of.
Originally posted by Digi
Last issue was sick. You'd all be well served to worry less about the power rating implications, imo.
God, thank you Digi.
When you get an issue that awesome, what's the point about tripping on "OH my god! Warlock has been shown to beat so and so.... so they should..... and so forth."
that's not what comics are about!
Originally posted by tjcoady
Vulcan made it clear. He's hella good at energy manipulation... that's his deal.Surfer or Thor don't do that very often, even though they can.... when was the last time they pressed that ability very much?
Almost never.
DnA make it clear Vulcan was exploiting a weakness that really, only Vulcan can really take advantage of.
You may have a point there with thor but certainly not surfer. Heck just recently he stripped and sealed away the oldpower from Skaar (the oldpower being an energy source powerful enough to sustain galactus for hundreds of years). Lets not also forget his crunch channeling feat which occured not to long ago as well. There are many more instances where those came from as well. i.e Surfer transforming the psychic energy of billions of souls of the unilord into cosmic energy so he could wield it,synthesizing the Odinforce,
Taking away Sypiras powers, overloading firelord with his own energy,throwing wondermans ionic energy out of phase etc
Originally posted by Naija boy
You may have a point there with thor but certainly not surfer. Heck just recently he stripped and sealed away the oldpower from Skaar (the oldpower being an energy source powerful enough to sustain galactus for hundreds of years). Lets not also forget his crunch channeling feat which occured not to long ago as well. There are many more instances where those came from as well. i.e Surfer transforming the psychic energy of billions of souls of the unilord into cosmic energy so he could wield it,synthesizing the Odinforce,
Taking away Sypiras powers, overloading firelord with his own energy,throwing wondermans ionic energy out of phase etc
Yeah, all good points.
Although can you remember a specific incident where it happened with magic?
The only thing I can think of is way back when in "Defenders" where Dr. Strange's particular type of energy trips him out during the crossover that ran through the Strange, Surfer, Hulk, and Namor annuals.