Fears about The Incredible Hulk

Started by Scoobless8 pages
Originally posted by Stewie_Griffin
I absolutely loved Liv Tyler as Betty Ross. She was perfect.

I hated her as Betty, Connely (sp?) was much better.

the armoured hummers only weighed 5-6 tons and huk struggled to lift it ......wow that sucks

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/06/15/armored-humvees-deadly-to-soliders-inside.htm
http://www.defense-update.com/products/h/hummer-plasan.htm

...... he is class 15/20 tops ; all strength feats you see spiderman was capable of lol , abomination was class 25/30

ang lee's hulk was class 10

what do you guys think?

Originally posted by ankur29
all strength feats you see spiderman was capable of lol

Like picking up a car and ripping it in half? I doubt Spider-Man can do that.

What strength feats were people expecting? first transformation in Brazil in a bottling plant ... heaviest thing there was probably the forklift he chucked at Roth.

Second transformation at a college, heaviest thing around were teh hummers, which he shoved/kicked/whatever around.

Fighting in a city street ... what did you expect? they would stop fighting to see if they could lift the buildings?

Originally posted by ankur29
ang lee's hulk was class 10

Bullshit, M1A1 Tanks weigh around 67 tons and Hulk threw one a good half mile in that film.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Like picking up a car and ripping it in half? I doubt Spider-Man can do that.

What strength feats were people expecting? first transformation in Brazil in a bottling plant ... heaviest thing there was probably the forklift he chucked at Roth.

Second transformation at a college, heaviest thing around were teh hummers, which he shoved/kicked/whatever around.

Fighting in a city street ... what did you expect? they would stop fighting to see if they could lift the buildings?

Bullshit, M1A1 Tanks weigh around 67 tons and Hulk threw one a good half mile in that film.

lol , my bad i meant anglees hulk was class 100 , i remeber hism lifting that huge rock at teh end and thrwoing it far ... he was way stronger than the new hulk

but he never implied how strong he was ... based on his feats and effort that he required to move hummer and other stuff i woudl estimate he is class 20.....

how strong do you think he is?

Dunno ... I think 2003 Hulk would stomp 2008 Hulk if they were to fight.

He wouldn't straight up whoop his ass easily but he would win. At this level, the 2008 Hulk isn't ready for '03 Hulk's ferocity.

Btw, Liv Tyler did better as Betty Ross than Connelly. 131

i got to side with scoob on this one, though i'm not a big fan of tyler as an actress in general...

I just felt that Connelly's performance didn't really nail the character. She was always ratting out Bruce & somewhat seemed like she was against him. Tyler's Ross wanted to actually help Bruce and she showed that she cared.

Originally posted by ankur29
the armoured hummers only weighed 5-6 tons and huk struggled to lift it ......wow that sucks

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/06/15/armored-humvees-deadly-to-soliders-inside.htm
http://www.defense-update.com/products/h/hummer-plasan.htm

...... he is class 15/20 tops ; all strength feats you see spiderman was capable of lol , abomination was class 25/30

ang lee's hulk was class 10

what do you guys think?

Marvel is actively involved in producing these films. You think they want to undercut the Hulk's might?
He's a character on the run, so he only stops to hit what's in his way. He hasn't been required to do some kind of saving feat yet, like lifting a ship or stopping a train. The Thing got to do that in FF2, lifting that giant Ferris Wheel back up to safety. In future movies, when the story can dictate the Hulk doing a great show-off feat of strength(rather than just fighting & running), we'll see then what he's capable of.

Ang Lee's Hulk a class 10? His classes for the characters are just all wrong. I'm thinking he seemed to have trouble because of the gamma reduction. Even so, this Hulk hasn't had a chance to truly test himself.

See I thought the strength level stayed the same through the movie, as opposed to weakening via gamma reduction midway through. The army nearly brought him down near the beginning, so he wasn't real high powered then either. I don't think the little experiment did anything other than repress the specific episode it triggered (vs affecting future "conversions"😉. If anything he was strongest at the end.
Abomination was supposed to look like his superior initially, and get us all scared that the Incredible Hulk may have met his match.

And yeah I would say Hulk class 20-30 and Abomination 140% or so of him. Hulk did not struggle too much with the Hummer. At first he did so, I think just to get more camera time, but when he got it up he swung it around pretty easily and forcefully.
I did think it was pitiful when he and Hulk had to climb buildings instead of jumping all the way up on them.
But you know what? It made it a bit more believable than a big green guy jumping all the way across the Grand Canyon--kinda more like a real science experiment gone bad that could really happen.

The gamma reduction definitely weakened him as far as his base level is concerned. He was his strongest at the end because he got a hell of a lot madder and as we all know, when he gets madder he gets stronger. I liked the strength levels in the movie and the Hulk, at the least, was a class 50-60.

I see on two posts that Ang Lee's Hulk was class 10...I'm sure you guys mean 100 instead if I am reading things right unless you're talking about something else.

I may be beating a dead horse and I'm just saying it for the sake of discussion and not argument, but some of Hulk's signature "special attacks" or "energy attacks" like the thunderclap and when he beats the ground and causes shockwaves seem to show his strength level at a higher level than his normal lifting feats. I could go with Joe's class 50-60 at times or a little lower at times either. And I still don't see the gamma reduction (I'm not trying to argue, just saying) myself. He fell from the airplane and hit the pavement hard enough to break through it seemingly before he even fully changed to the Hulk, and it did not hurt him. And even at the beginning of the battle with A, I know A knocked him back good but I think that's just because A was bigger and badder than him, not because Hulk was weaker than normal. He tore up the car to make a shield/weapon without too much trouble before he really got mad.
I did absolutely love it when he came back and overpowered Abomination though. That was as good as the Rocky movies 💃
So what did they do with Abomination? (When he was cutting Hulk with his bony projections the first thing I thought of was when Doomsday and Superman originally fought.) You couldn't just leave a monster like him alone, because he would have recovered fast and got up and started causing more chaos.

I wondered too what they were going to do with Blonsky. He was only choked unconscious - how were they going to take him into captivity?

Unless of course, the movie version changes back to human, unlike the comics version.

Originally posted by Raoul
i got to side with scoob on this one, though i'm not a big fan of tyler as an actress in general...

THANK YOU

I don't know what it is about her.

she has either enormous shoulders or a tiny head... well, thats the physical aspect...

and she's just never that convincing in her roles, imo...

Originally posted by roughrider
I wondered too what they were going to do with Blonsky. He was only choked unconscious - how were they going to take him into captivity?

Unless of course, the movie version changes back to human, unlike the comics version.

I definitely think he is being saved for future villains so he can still pose a threat to the Hulk. And I think that if they wanted to make him more dangerous, they should have him be able to transform at will, especially since this version of the Abomination isn't tragic like other versions.

Originally posted by Raoul
she has either enormous shoulders or a tiny head... well, thats the physical aspect...

and she's just never that convincing in her roles, imo...

I like her cause I like her old man. Ever since she had a kid in real life her body doesn't look real young anymore. I think she brought a nice mature and slightly older look to the screen which would go with the timeframe of the story at least. As far as her shoulders,I kinda like women with a more solid frame myself (as long as they ain't fat). Guys, you want a woman with some good child-birthing hips you know!!!

Liv Tyler is fine Jeniffer Conolley is totally beautiful

Jennifer Connelly is beautiful but she aint all that. Liv Tyler looks much better to me.