Originally posted by Juntai
Say the battle was out of ten, how many times is he going to gather wins this way?
Thor wins majority
Like you said, he's gonna go toe to toe against DD rather than BFR him from the start. But after he gets the crap beaten outta him, which will happen, I think Thor will come to his senses and utilize either godblast or bfr or some other hammer trick.
Originally posted by starlockThe difference is, that Avlon is more coherent, and actually backs up what he's saying most of the time. While the other is clearly just a troll.
That's funny i actually had avlon on ignore and just recently took him off but its threads like this that make my brain cells commit suicide also...so i guess avlon is back on ignore for me....its funny how similar yet different some of us can be 😉
But yeah, to each their own.
Originally posted by Juntai
While I agree he has that option to him, he also fights in character here. Thor has too much pride to pretty much admit he can't beat Doomsday and just teleport him away to crush another civilization somewhere else. Say the battle was out of ten, how many times is he going to gather wins this way? It's not a tactic normal to Thor, though as I said, one I certainly agree he has at his disposal.
Thats its a good debate, but i simplify things, thor knows about his opponent....even if its just common knowledge....just as flash has his speedblitz wins....is it in character for him to do so? or even superman who gets allot of speedblitz wins...noone brings this argument to the table......but i think you have a point
It is debatable if thor is in character to BFR an Opponent,especially if he knows about doomsday...what is not debatable is the fact that Thor can BFR doomsday
Originally posted by starlockThe idea can be and perhaps should be used in a lot of the debates on here. The difference is in volume, Superman ends a good chunk of his fights with a good old fashioned speedblitz, or if he's annoyed or knows he has to hit hard and win fast, he does. There's dozens of examples in just the last few years alone of this. It's quite in character for him to do that. On the other hand, Thor doesn't typically just teleport his opponent away from him to end a battle.
Thats its a good debate, but i simplify things, thor knows about his opponent....even if its just common knowledge....just as flash has his speedblitz wins....is it in character for him to do so? or even superman who gets allot of speedblitz wins...noone brings this argument to the table......but i think you have a pointIt is debatable if thor is in character to BFR an Opponent,especially if he knows about doomsday...what is not debatable is the fact that Thor can BFR doomsday
Originally posted by Starscream MThat's a respectable opinion. 👆
Thor wins majorityLike you said, he's gonna go toe to toe against DD rather than BFR him from the start. But after he gets the crap beaten outta him, which will happen, I think Thor will come to his senses and utilize either godblast or bfr or some other hammer trick.
Originally posted by JuntaiThor has done it the middle of matches before like with the Asgardian Destroyer.
While I agree he has that option to him, he also fights in character here. Thor has too much pride to pretty much admit he can't beat Doomsday and just teleport him away to crush another civilization somewhere else. Say the battle was out of ten, how many times is he going to gather wins this way? It's not a tactic normal to Thor, though as I said, one I certainly agree he has at his disposal.
But as stated above not only do characters fight in character but they also fight to the best of thier abilities. Thor fighting with hte best use of his abilities has and will BFR oppenents.
Thor has a few things going for him in this fight.
One is that he can fly and since no bystanders are in the danger Doomsday has no logical way of reaching Thor unless Thor comes to him.
Another is that even if Doomsday does reach him, Thor has tremendous damage soak. He may not be as physically durable as Superman but the man can take a beating and keep on coming despite any injuries he may sustain.
The next is sheer versatility not only can Thor BFR Doomsday he has many, many other tricks at his disposal to minimize advantages DD has such as shields, the ability to effect the battlefield itself etc,etc.
Thor if fighting to the best of his abilities should not lose Doomsday.
Originally posted by starlock
That's funny i actually had avlon on ignore and just recently took him off but its threads like this that make my brain cells commit suicide also...so i guess avlon is back on ignore for me....its funny how similar yet different some of us can be 😉
Feel free to to put me on ignore. Your opinion will not be missed. 🙂
Originally posted by Entity
Welcome to our world.It's ruled by supe's fanboys and Avlon is among their generals.
Another fool wasting time with off topic crap.
If you guys need an E-tissue, there is no shame in that.
Juntai pretty much covered the bases already, there really isn't much to add to that.
Originally posted by JuntaiWhen have I ever put Wolverine against Supes? Any Wolverine?
Oddly enough, the one pointing the finger, can easily be seen in most Superman threads voting against him, nearly regardless of opponent. And also constantly makes threads against him, just to say he loses.He even put Age of Apoc Wolverine against Superman, and was then the only person who voted for Wolverine.
And this[among other reasons too many to count] is why I put him on ignore. My brain cells commit suicide whenever I see one of his posts.
I've admitted having my own bias against the character so I will give anyone that, thou I believe it to still be logical and well founded as apposed to the blatant irrational fanboyism like some, but I don't pit him against characters that clearly have no business against him and I give him the win and vote in polls for him when he should take it realistically.
Also I have made many threads concerning him but I would hardly call it constantly.
Originally posted by NewjakWhile I agree with some of it, Doomsday has shown he can deal with flying opponents, through both his massive leaping ability and has shown some control over his direction while doing so, to simulate flying, and through shooting out bone-spear type things to reel in flyers close such as he did to Superman. I don't know why anyone would think Doomsday is completely incapable against a flyer, when his prime opponent is a flyer, and even other characters we've seen him face, from Green Lanterns, Guardians, and The Radiant among others are all flyers....And if Thor completely leaves the field of battle, he has forfeit and Doomsday wins through the forum rules.
Thor has done it the middle of matches before like with the Asgardian Destroyer.But as stated above not only do characters fight in character but they also fight to the best of thier abilities. Thor fighting with hte best use of his abilities has and will BFR oppenents.
Thor has a few things going for him in this fight.
One is that he can fly and since no bystanders are in the danger Doomsday has no logical way of reaching Thor unless Thor comes to him.
Another is that even if Doomsday does reach him, Thor has tremendous damage soak. He may not be as physically durable as Superman but the man can take a beating and keep on coming despite any injuries he may sustain.
The next is sheer versatility not only can Thor BFR Doomsday he has many, many other tricks at his disposal to minimize advantages DD has such as shields, the ability to effect the battlefield itself etc,etc.
Thor if fighting to the best of his abilities should not lose Doomsday.
However I agree, Thor's versatility could win him the day.
Originally posted by EntityNot you. Carver. He trolls and creates Superman threads constantly, just to vote against him.
When have I ever put Wolverine against Supes? Any Wolverine?I've admitted having my own bias against the character so I will give anyone that, thou I believe it to still be logical and well founded as apposed to the blatant irrational fanboyism like some, but I don't pit him against characters that clearly have no business against him and I give him the win and vote in polls for him when he should take it realistically.
Also I have made many threads concerning him but I would hardly call it constantly.
Originally posted by Juntai
While I agree with some of it, Doomsday has shown he can deal with flying opponents, through both his massive leaping ability and has shown some control over his direction while doing so, to simulate flying, and through shooting out bone-spear type things to reel in flyers close such as he did to Superman. I don't know why anyone would think Doomsday is completely incapable against a flyer, when his prime opponent is a flyer, and even other characters we've seen him face, from Green Lanterns, Guardians, and The Radiant among others are all flyers....And if Thor completely leaves the field of battle, he has forfeit and Doomsday wins through the forum rules.However I agree, Thor's versatility could win him the day.
I'm not saying Doomsday can not handle flight, but normally when he takes on fliers the fliers are forced to confront Doomsday directly.
Like Superman having to go H2H with Doomsday to prevent him from hurting civilians.
Green Lanterns having to to keep him from from getting to OA.
Thor has no such problems facing him in this battle. He can stay far enough away that if Doomsday were to attack him Thor could easily move himself out of the way.
It's just that compared to Thor Doomsday is just too one dimensional. Just like Hulk is too 1-D for Superman to lose to.
Originally posted by Juntai
While I agree with some of it, Doomsday has shown he can deal with flying opponents, through both his massive leaping ability and has shown some control over his direction while doing so, to simulate flying, and through shooting out bone-spear type things to reel in flyers close such as he did to Superman. I don't know why anyone would think Doomsday is completely incapable against a flyer, when his prime opponent is a flyer, and even other characters we've seen him face, from Green Lanterns, Guardians, and The Radiant among others are all flyers....And if Thor completely leaves the field of battle, he has forfeit and Doomsday wins through the forum rules.However I agree, Thor's versatility could win him the day.
Agreed...and if there is one thing that is consistent for DD is that he tends to blitz. I believe the reason DD was granted superspeed is to prevent bfr's as much as possible.
Granted that Gog has all of Thors BFR removal options and more and that there were an uncountable amount and he still made it to the main gog...I'd say that even bfr is not as easy as it may sound.
Originally posted by AvlonExcept BFR has shown to be quite a good way to get rid of Doomsday more than once.
Agreed...and if there is one thing that is consistent for DD is that he tends to blitz. I believe the reason DD was granted superspeed is to prevent bfr's as much as possible.Granted that Gog has all of Thors BFR removal options and more and that there were an uncountable amount and he still made it to the main gog...I'd say that even bfr is not as easy as it may sound.
Originally posted by NewjakTrue, it's also something Thor would have to find out on his own. It wouldn't be included in the basic knowledge, since there is no real basic knowledge of Doomsday, except that he's an unthinking unstoppable beast that killed Superman.
Except BFR has shown to be quite a good way to get rid of Doomsday more than once.
BFR beating him was a last ditch effort each time. Similarly to how I imagine Thor could come across the idea. However I think Doomsday would pummel a few wins out him.
Thinking at the start of battle Thor is going to simply fly off planet and teleport Doomsday to another galaxy or something seems a bit of a stretch, and well out of character, despite his ability to do so.
Originally posted by Juntai
True, it's also something Thor would have to find out on his own. It wouldn't be included in the basic knowledge, since there is no real basic knowledge of Doomsday, except that he's an unthinking unstoppable beast that killed Superman.BFR beating him was a last ditch effort each time. Similarly to how I imagine Thor could come across the idea. However I think Doomsday would pummel a few wins out him.
Thinking at the start of battle Thor is going to simply fly off planet and teleport Doomsday to another galaxy or something seems a bit of a stretch, and well out of character, despite his ability to do so.
Superman rarely speedblitzes foes.
Surfer hardly ever absorbs the power from hsi foe
but they are things that the characters have used before and are more than capable of using. And on KMC are used quite often.
Truth be told just like if Superman fought Hulk heads up without speed blitzing Hulk could possibly take a few wins.
But no body gives the Hulk a 2/10 wins cause Superman fights in character argument. Same thing here if Thor is using his abilities like he should and at his best Doomsday should not take one win.
Originally posted by starlockI think it depends on which Thor and which Doomsday but he can bfr any Doomsday but find if thats your only way of winning a forum battle then you really cant win but moreless teleport the other character safely away. But technically if he can bfr Doomsday then he wins against any version.
Thor will beat any version of doomsdayThe fact that thor can BFR doomsday is enough for me, it might be my opinion, and i can see the debate,but i dont see doomsday running or jumping fast enough to get a majority....I did not make the rules for the site...and i do understand them so.....Thor for the win
Originally posted by quanchi112This is the only Thor BFR I could find in my collection.
I think it depends on which Thor and which Doomsday but he can bfr any Doomsday but find if thats your only way of winning a forum battle then you really cant win but moreless teleport the other character safely away. But technically if he can bfr Doomsday then he wins against any version.