Originally posted by BadabingOk so he has the ability. Thats all that needs to be proven in my estimation. I think bfr is a weak one if thats all you have. I am sure he has done it more than once as well. Supes doesnt speedblitz all the time either. Id like it clarified which Doomsday this is and which Thor.
This is the only Thor BFR I could find in my collection.
Originally posted by Ouallada
In which issue did Thor BFR Hulk?
IIRC, In the 2001 Hulk annual, the fight started in Earth and Thor took them to several different worlds, he was even going to leave Hulk until circumstances showed it would be a bad choice.
Like the world where the oxygen was too thin for Hulk to breathe.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
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Without his Mjolnir...Thor gets pwned by DD.
You're aware that Thor was carrying the Hulk at the time and thus had no way to block the attacks, plus he was getting up in the very next panel.
I don't think anyone disagrees about Thor having the ability to bfr...
The issue is that Juntai described before. Thor prefers the fight. He doesn't just go into bfr. The opponents Thor has bfr'd are not known for speed.
The second issue is the speed difference (a common issue for Thor) and DD's overall superiority. I don't see Thor faring any better physically than Wonder Woman. T
If he does get the bfr, Thor wins, but between DD's speed and Thor's personality... DD ftw.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, In the 2001 Hulk annual, the fight started in Earth and Thor took them to several different worlds, he was even going to leave Hulk until circumstances showed it would be a bad choice.Like the world where the oxygen was too thin for Hulk to breathe.
Ah yes I recall that issue now, even though Hulk did come off looking a lot better in that issue, and in his battles with Thor overall. 😛
I don't think anyone disagrees about Thor having the ability to bfr...The issue is that Juntai described before. Thor prefers the fight. He doesn't just go into bfr.
The second issue is the speed difference (a common issue for Thor) and DD's overall superiority. I don't see Thor faring any better physically than Wonder Woman.
If he does get the bfr, Thor wins, but between DD's speed and Thor's personality... DD ftw.
Agreed with the portion on Thor liking a brawl, which is arguably the only reason, or at least the main reason why he has any trouble at all with this battle, if we refer to DOS/Rex doomsday.
The speed issue is not really a huge point, in my opinion, because Thor has great travel speed, can fly, and is much better at range than Doomsday, or most of the heroes that Doomsday was beating on from the abovementioned arcs.
The main reason I expect Thor to fare better in such a battle than Superman, for instance, is because in a best of ten battle, Thor has enough tricks and versatility to put Doomsday down for a majority, while Superman is more limited, albeit better at the things he does.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Ah yes I recall that issue now, even though Hulk did come off looking a lot better in that issue, and in his battles with Thor overall. 😛Agreed with the portion on Thor liking a brawl, which is arguably the only reason, or at least the main reason why he has any trouble at all with this battle, if we refer to DOS/Rex doomsday.
The speed issue is not really a huge point, in my opinion, because Thor has great travel speed, can fly, and is much better at range than Doomsday, or most of the heroes that Doomsday was beating on from the abovementioned arcs.
The main reason I expect Thor to fare better in such a battle than Superman, for instance, is because in a best of ten battle, Thor has enough tricks and versatility to put Doomsday down for a majority, while Superman is more limited, albeit better at the things he does.
Good post. I'll have to disagree though. Most of Thor's tricks outside of a straight bfr would be useless against Doomsday or things he's already dealt with. The speed advantage is something that is definitely an issue considering Thors speed in comparison, and lastly, his range is really no better than Superman, GL's, MM, Darkseid, Gog, Imperiex probes, Radiant, or a Guardian.
Originally posted by Avlon
Good post. I'll have to disagree though. Most of Thor's tricks outside of a straight bfr would be useless against Doomsday or things he's already dealt with. The speed advantage is something that is definitely an issue considering Thors speed in comparison, and lastly, his range is really no better than Superman, GL's, MM, Darkseid, Gog, Imperiex probes, Radiant, or a Guardian.
Fair enough.
I would say that against a brawler like Doomsday, having the ability to affect the battelfield through a flash flood for instance allows Thor to keep his range, and to slow Doomsday down. Being at range would allow Thor to utilise his matter manipulation, projection, as well as his more exotic abilities. soul stealing, anti-force, godblast etc. A culmination of those already give Thor a number of wins against DOS/Rex Doomsday.
I wouldn't say that Doomsday's combat speed allows him to blitz Thor, even though it certainly is faster than the latter. Thor does have better travel speed though, which is important as his main weapons in this battle are all at range.
Even in a brawl, Thor does have enough strength, durability and ability to eke out his fair share of wins, at least until Doomsday evolves past what he can dish out. Throw in the fact that it is plausible that he enters warrior madness, and a culmination of the above makes it altogether reasonable for Thor to take a majority.
Originally posted by Soljer
Yes he does. As Jun said, even in only recent years, there are no less than a dozen examples of Superman ending a fight with a speedblitz.
