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Re: gods judgement on america? Long time coming?
Originally posted by BetrayedUnicorn
We have been a close allie of israel for a while now and so I think we havent had judgement passed on us because we have been aiding gods sacred nation for so long.Opinions?
Now, when someone is an idiot, do they know they're an idiot or does it have to be pointed out to them?
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Why do evangelicals in America think God is all about wrath and punishment...what happened to love?Have they read the new testament at all?
How about all the other countries that have not suffered such retribution, yet still maintain their hedonistic lifestyles? Or, could it be that no nation is burden-free when it coms to god's wrath? When one considers the true nature of god's wrath, god seems to favor the anti-christian nations over ones that claims divine preference and inspiration. But, we can all agree that we need to feed the jews, right?
Re: gods judgement on america? Long time coming?
Originally posted by BetrayedUnicorn
I would like to state this is in support of gods absolute power and his punishment of sin. If you are wanting to argue with me on creation vs evolution it will not be done here. I have posted many times in many other topics with my opinions. This is my point...I love america dearly but I think we are in a very sinful state and have been for a long time and I was wondering why we havent been judged for it like the countless countries listed in the bible. this is why I think we are yet to be judged. We have been a close allie of israel for a while now and so I think we havent had judgement passed on us because we have been aiding gods sacred nation for so long.Opinions?
America, is not now or ever has been more sinful than any other nation in the world. America was NEVER "pure". The American citizens are just catching up to the politicians, which run the country in the amount of Sin they are comfortable with.
I'm more curious about the answer to the question..,"why does God punish the innocent for the actions of the guilty?" 😕
Re: Re: gods judgement on america? Long time coming?
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
America, is not now or ever has been more sinful than any other nation in the world. America was NEVER "pure". The American citizens are just catching up to the politicians, which run the country in the amount of Sin they are comfortable with.I'm more curious about the answer to the question..,"why does God punish the innocent for the actions of the guilty?" 😕
Maybe no one is really innocent in the view of an omniscient creature.
Re: gods judgement on america? Long time coming?
Originally posted by BetrayedUnicornA few brief thoughts:
I would like to state this is in support of gods absolute power and his punishment of sin. If you are wanting to argue with me on creation vs evolution it will not be done here. I have posted many times in many other topics with my opinions. This is my point...I love america dearly but I think we are in a very sinful state and have been for a long time and I was wondering why we havent been judged for it like the countless countries listed in the bible. this is why I think we are yet to be judged. We have been a close allie of israel for a while now and so I think we havent had judgement passed on us because we have been aiding gods sacred nation for so long.Opinions?
1. The United States is hardly the most sinful nation on earth; yet, like any number of other countries, their government has largely departed from God's truth. Abandoning God's biblical truth leads to judgment, and God often judges a nation by the actions of its leaders.
2. The only reason anyone (whether an individual or a national group) can survive judgment, is the grace of God. When the Lord judges a nation, He generally has three purposes in mind: First, to punish the wicked. Second, to encourage the faithful remnant. Third, to warn the onlooker. As a Canadian, I'm gazing intently at our friends to the south and thinking my country would do well to take the hint. After all, God doesn't measure morality by the size of a nation's economy or population, but by the extent to which the people fear and obey Him.
3. Is God's judgment befalling the United States? Clearly, yes. Is God's judgment befalling the United States alone? Clearly, no. Is God showing leniency to the United States because of their political/economic/military support for Israel? Possibly. On the other hand, we should not ignore the extraordinary number of Americans who have, in recent years, responded to God's grace and returned to a conservative biblical worldview. Yahweh is a wonderful Father. When the child learns the lesson, so ends the spanking.
4. This world -- every inch of it -- is under the judgment of God and has been for many centuries. "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness...." [Romans 1:18/NIV]
5. The only solution for people's sin is divine grace. Sinners need to be forgiven. The unrepentant need to face God's wrath. God has made His abundant forgiveness available to all who will receive by faith His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. As for the world itself, and all who refuse to partake of God's inexpressible mercy, destruction is coming. Thus as a Christian, it is not my goal to fix a broken nation, but to offer God's free gift of salvation to spiritually dead people.
6. In conclusion: It matters little what happens to the United States, or my own country (Canada). God alone knows His plans for this world and its nations. But it matters a great deal what happens to people. Israel's eschatological significance not withstanding, the here-and-now of kingdom ministry demands that Bible believing Christians focus their attention on preaching the Word, winning the lost, training the found, and developing a new generation of church leaders. If, having completed this task, we have the time to absorb ourselves in other pursuits, so much the better.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaI would like to know that as well 😉
What makes you say that; 9/11? Colombia? Katrina?
Originally posted by DigiMark007And smokers 😛
AIDS and various other diseases kills far more people on a monthly basis than any number of catastrophes do yearly. If anything, by this unfathomably flawed logic, God hates black people.srug
Originally posted by DigiMark007
AIDS and various other diseases kills far more people on a monthly basis than any number of catastrophes do yearly. If anything, by this unfathomably flawed logic, God hates black people.srug
That's why they have the mark of Cain 313
Also he hates Mayanmar. Not the military junta, mind you, just the civilians.
Re: Re: Re: gods judgement on america? Long time coming?
Originally posted by Quiero MotaIn fact, no. I was simply making the point that God's wrath is being revealed against all unrighteousness. The United States is not unique in their godlessness. There are many nations, including my own, whose unrighteousness equals or exceeds that of the US. Thus my other question/answer: "Is God's judgment befalling the United States alone? Clearly, no."
What makes you say that; 9/11? Colombia? Katrina?
I am not going to get involved in this conversation (ha ha ha)! This is a theological issue (and that is not to say that all views are valid). In keeping with the Bible--the Old and New Testament--one message is revealed to man. In other words, truth is not "subjective." And for those who feel otherwise, never pay another bill again... just "think" you did (ha ha ha)! In any case, I am being humorous; for all interested, read the book entitled, "Who is afraid of the Old Testament God"?
I am reading the book right now, but--so far--it puts everything into perspective. It is definitely worth the buy. Just my 2 cents! Take care all!!