JA Trilogy Luke vs RoT Bane

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Originally posted by Gideon
And just why the hell not? Even the mighty Faunus, Captain REX, and Blaxican fear my wrath!!1!oneone!!1!

And yet, *I* do not. You've failed. I am annoying like my father before me.

Originally posted by Gideon
And just why the hell not? Even the mighty Faunus, Captain REX, and Blaxican fear my wrath!!1!oneone!!1!

lol, nice 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
'moving so fast it seemed as if time had stopped'-POD p.g. 205

Obviously bane *is* on lukes level in saber combat, and even if he wasn't, I don't see luke getting through the orbalisks.

don't you get it yet? every fight in novelization involving a force sensitive talks about increased speed for the force user. It can't really be compared, its just the words the author uses to describe them. "faster than the eye can follow" , and "time stood still" and "moving like a blur" all mean pretty much the same thing. We can't really have an intelligent conversation about which speed is faster, its truly all a matter of opinion.

what woulda been cool is if all of the duels were in matrix time. Like the lava drops on mustafar fall slowly while the jedi move normally.

Hmm... I'm not sure if that would work out.

It would be cool to have seen how they did it.

or just speed up the tape of the individuals. No slow motion background, but normal speed background with an even more speed enhanced fight scene off the blue screen.

yes, but not old 1932 movie style.

Presumably with amazingly powerful force abilities that had tripled about a year previously thanks to Palpatine's tutelage, and a good deal of knowledge on Sith power and ability

don't you get it yet? every fight in novelization involving a force sensitive talks about increased speed for the force user. It can't really be compared, its just the words the author uses to describe them. "faster than the eye can follow" , and "time stood still" and "moving like a blur" all mean pretty much the same thing. We can't really have an intelligent conversation about which speed is faster, its truly all a matter of opinion.

But what he did after that quote was not mere opinion. After that description Bane lands three strikes 'in the blink of an eye', which is pretty much instantaneous, on Sirak, one of which involves a very flashy and time consuming spin. Next it go's on to say that it takes a few seconds for the spectators to even become aware of this, for their eyes to catch up, so fast did he move.
From this, it is clear that Karpyshyn means it to be an explosion of speed and not at all an average feat.

And the description 'time stopped' is obviously faster than 'moved in a blur'.

Err... yeah, Exodus, whatever you say. People in the friggin' MOVIE striked faster than the eye could clearly see the blade. Great job, Bane.

'Time stood still' is the same way of describing great speed as 'faster than the eye could follow' and 'invisible to the naked eye', etc, etc... you have to use your common sense to figure out who is faster.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
But what he did after that quote was not mere opinion. After that description Bane lands three strikes 'in the blink of an eye', which is pretty much instantaneous, on Sirak, one of which involves a very flashy and time consuming spin. Next it go's on to say that it takes a few seconds for the spectators to even become aware of this, for their eyes to catch up, so fast did he move.
From this, it is clear that Karpyshyn means it to be an explosion of speed and not at all an average feat.

And the description 'time stopped' is obviously faster than 'moved in a blur'.


"in the blink of an eye" is also a figure of speech that is used in writing routinely to describe something that is NOT LITERALLY in the blink of an eye. It is just something that is fast. "time stood still" is also a figure of speech, because time cannot literally stand still, or you would NEVER reach the next moment. So that is a physical impossiblility. If it really truly appeared as if time stood still, then time would never move on. My point is, these are authors describing enhanced speed. We can't grab two quotes from two different books, and say "this literally means that this was faster."
i mean, you said it yourself in your quote. "in the blink of an eye" is pretty much instantaneous. "as though time stood still " is too. So which is faster? we can't really know. (and to be thorough), time standing still is technically INFINITELY longer than "the blink of eye" or any other time period for that matter. 0 is infinitely smaller than .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 for instance. Could you truly say one force user is infinitely faster than another? especially two of the power discussed?

Originally posted by Sidi-Boy
Err... yeah, Exodus, whatever you say. People in the friggin' MOVIE striked faster than the eye could clearly see the blade. Great job, Bane.
Gee, and here I was thinking that I actually saw every duel in the movie saga. Silly me.

Originally posted by Faunus
Gee, and here I was thinking that I actually saw every duel in the movie saga. Silly me.

Pfft, glad I'm not the only one.

What Exodus said was 'striking in an instant'; ANYONE can strike with a blade and have it hit the target in the blink of an eye. It does not necessarily make the duels invisible, because you can still see the outline of the saber due to its color.

Originally posted by Faunus
Gee, and here I was thinking that I actually saw every duel in the movie saga. Silly me.

According to Mr. Chee, speeds depicted in the movies do not contradict the speeds represented in the EU.

Which is what I said earlier, almost word-for-word. I was clearly referring to Sidi-Boy's comment that sequences in the movie were actually invisible.

they were actually pretty awesome.

You misunderstood me; I meant that strikes landed when they needed IN AN INSTANT. Hell, even I, not even a professional swordsman can strike with a blade and have it hit my target 'in the blink of an eye'; it just sounds more uber on paper.