Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He actually can do that. And dur you Digi. He's got a host of abilities that writers always seem to forget about. His omega beams can probably fry her. or he can do what he does to gods and other entities and just jack her powers.
We've provided rational means by which she would be unaffected by the OE. Maybe we're wrong and you're right in this aspect, but it's far from a default win, nor is the correct party easy to discern. As for "jacking" powers, do we really need to list the amount of circumstantial happenings surrounding his his taking the powers of the New Gods? It's not a power he turns on and off. It's something he had to plan meticulously for.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. People have to stop using alternate Darkseid feats as feats for Darkseid. They arent. The daxam thing isnt canon to Ds.
Good to know.
Originally posted by DigiMark007😉
We've provided rational means by which she would be unaffected by the OE. Maybe we're wrong and you're right in this aspect, but it's far from a default win, nor is the correct party easy to discern. As for "jacking" powers, do we really need to list the amount of circumstantial happenings surrounding his his taking the powers of the New Gods? It's not a power he turns on and off. It's something he had to plan meticulously for.Good to know.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Already covered. It's highly unlikely that teh OE would work.Nah. It has nothing to do with physical age. Her life is intrinsically linked to the century itself, so unless DS actually speeds up time in the universe by about 92 years, she's safe from this tactic. This is evidenced by Jenny Sparks, who actually stopped aging at (presumably) around 30, and also died when popular consensus said that the century was over (at the turn of the year 2000, rather than 2001 like historical scholars will argue is the true turning of the century). And also when Quantum goes to Infinite City (she created it actually) to talk to her former selves, and they reveal that each was linked directly to either a century or an "age."
so he just oe's her to the end of the century?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
We've provided rational means by which she would be unaffected by the OE. Maybe we're wrong and you're right in this aspect, but it's far from a default win, nor is the correct party easy to discern. As for "jacking" powers, do we really need to list the amount of circumstantial happenings surrounding his his taking the powers of the New Gods? It's not a power he turns on and off. It's something he had to plan meticulously for.Good to know.
Omega beams are separate from the OE. I actually don't know if the OE would work on her. I agree her status may protect her. And I'm not talking about Countdown/Death of the new gods. I'm talking about the pantheons he killed after taking over Apokolips. the alien gods whose powers he took.
and Darkseid has advanced temporal awareness, and GDS was a WEAKER version of him, as confirmed by DS himself, even after draining a Controller and Mordru. And further proved during Foundations when he was able to kill his older self and do the same feats, such as imprisoning the legion.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestEven so... he's a weaker version of DS who has tp. 😉
and Darkseid has advanced temporal awareness, and GDS was a WEAKER version of him, as confirmed by DS himself, even after draining a Controller and Mordru. And further proved during Foundations when he was able to kill his older self and do the same feats, such as imprisoning the legion.
Yes Darkseid has uber telepathy, but like all his other powers he rarely uses it. Sleez has mind-controlled Superman and Big Barda and he was said to have weaker telepathy then Darkseid.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
We've provided rational means by which she would be unaffected by the OE. Maybe we're wrong and you're right in this aspect, but it's far from a default win, nor is the correct party easy to discern. As for "jacking" powers, do we really need to list the amount of circumstantial happenings surrounding his his taking the powers of the New Gods? It's not a power he turns on and off. It's something he had to plan meticulously for.
FYI, he has used his Omega Beams to give and remove powers before. He even took away Secret's powers, and she was Spectre's apprentice.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Even so... he's a weaker version of DS who [b]has tp. 😉 [/B]
Darkseid has telepathy noob 😉
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Nah. It has nothing to do with physical age. Her life is intrinsically linked to the century itself, so unless DS actually speeds up time in the universe by about 92 years, she's safe from this tactic.
He has shown to manipulate time before, but of course it's a power he rarely uses.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestWe know now that gds Darkseid was much more powerful than current darkseid. Unless of course you think Superman would beat the snot out of gds Darkseid even more easily than he did in Apokolips now.
Omega beams are separate from the OE. I actually don't know if the OE would work on her. I agree her status may protect her. And I'm not talking about Countdown/Death of the new gods. I'm talking about the pantheons he killed after taking over Apokolips. the alien gods whose powers he took.and Darkseid has advanced temporal awareness, and GDS was a WEAKER version of him, as confirmed by DS himself, even after draining a Controller and Mordru. And further proved during Foundations when he was able to kill his older self and do the same feats, such as imprisoning the legion.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We know now that gds Darkseid was much more powerful than current darkseid. Unless of course you think Superman would beat the snot out of gds Darkseid even more easily than he did in Apokolips now.
Originally posted by fangirl101Ok so he couldnt beat him on his own in countdown 3,superman/batman twice,after the imperiex thing as well.
we also know that darkseid didn't use any of his exotic powers to beat superman. every time he does, he wins easily.
They are equals pretty much until fc that is. Things tend to change quite often in the dcu though it seems.
Originally posted by quanchi112Equals if he brawls maybe.
Ok so he couldnt beat him on his own in countdown 3,superman/batman twice,after the imperiex thing as well.They are equals pretty much until fc that is. Things tend to change quite often in the dcu though it seems.
Otherwise DS is above Superman.
Originally posted by smashyouNo you said equals in brawling and I corrected you. Superman is superior in brawling.
Which is what I said.If DS wanted to and used his brain he could win, but he has a Thor complex.
Ds has had many chances at beating Superman and has come up short a lot lately. His tricks dont work like they used to.