Originally posted by smashyouHe beat him senseless twice. The other times he wasnt doing to badly either until Darkseid used Olsen to end the fight.
He has beat him once really in combat, their latest battle didn't end. DS also has victory's over Superman so you can't say for sure who wins.I think Supes could win with his speed but I can't and you can't say for sure TJ.
How many times has Darkseid beaten Superman straight up in the past ten years?
Originally posted by smashyouIn Superman and Batman Supes beat him down yet again and carted him across space. Darkseid maybe would have finished him with his omega beams but WW interfered and they also fooled the omega beams with a fake death. But like I said when it comes down to fists which it did Supes knocked him silly but with powers Darkseid is superior.
Beat him senseless...I don't remember these completely fair fights, scans?
Originally posted by quanchi112
In Superman and Batman Supes beat him down yet again and carted him across space. Darkseid maybe would have finished him with his omega beams but WW interfered and they also fooled the omega beams with a fake death. But like I said when it comes down to fists which it did Supes knocked him silly but with powers Darkseid is superior.
in superman batman, before wonder woman interfered, darksied was punking superman. superman had speed blitzed darksied and everything and had like no effect on darksied. so evidently darksied is superior to superman in hand to hand and superman needs outside help to get the upper hand physically over darksied. i mean i'm just trying to be as fair as possible and show you that you are being a little bit biased. FG101
Originally posted by fangirl101I said their was interference. But in hand to hand Supes is lord of the manor over Darkseid. When his powers failed through interference he couldnt ko Supes at all and was easily crushed.
in superman batman, before wonder woman interfered, darksied was punking superman. superman had speed blitzed darksied and everything and had like no effect on darksied. so evidently darksied is superior to superman in hand to hand and superman needs outside help to get the upper hand physically over darksied. i mean i'm just trying to be as fair as possible and show you that you are being a little bit biased. FG101
I agree when powers are concerned that Darkseid has the edge but when it comes to hand to hand only Darkseid would lose the majority.
Originally posted by quanchi112then explain to me how darksied was treating superman like a ***** before wonder woman interfered. that clearly shows that superman needed help and that he wasn't doing so good. he put his best effort in a speed blitz and darksied laughed it off. i think maybe you should reread the issue. the other times they fought, superman was getting sun amps. he can take on skygods with sun amps. and to be honest, how can superman be a peer of darksied in hand to hand and crush him at the same time? that makes no sense. as i remember it, superman's strength rivals, darksied's own. and that is only when darksied is human size, if he went giant, he would just crush superman.
I said their was interference. But in hand to hand Supes is lord of the manor over Darkseid. When his powers failed through interference he couldnt ko Supes at all and was easily crushed.I agree when powers are concerned that Darkseid has the edge but when it comes to hand to hand only Darkseid would lose the majority.
Originally posted by fangirl101because he was doing fine against him. You have said the same stuff ever since I have known you. You can be a peer of someones and literally crush them. He literally beat him silly to the point of dumping him into the Source wall. If you really think Darkseid had Superman beaten up then you are really underestimating his durability. When the beams were avoided twice it was Supermans fight. Darkseid hasnt been him up in a fight with his fists for over ten years.
then explain to me how darksied was treating superman like a ***** before wonder woman interfered. that clearly shows that superman needed help and that he wasn't doing so good. he put his best effort in a speed blitz and darksied laughed it off. i think maybe you should reread the issue. the other times they fought, superman was getting sun amps. he can take on skygods with sun amps. and to be honest, how can superman be a peer of darksied in hand to hand and crush him at the same time? that makes no sense. as i remember it, superman's strength rivals, darksied's own. and that is only when darksied is human size, if he went giant, he would just crush superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
because he was doing fine against him. You have said the same stuff ever since I have known you. You can be a peer of someones and literally crush them. He literally beat him silly to the point of dumping him into the Source wall. If you really think Darkseid had Superman beaten up then you are really underestimating his durability. When the beams were avoided twice it was Supermans fight. Darkseid hasnt been him up in a fight with his fists for over ten years.
Originally posted by fangirl101I know who you are so please dont insult my intelligence. I just hope youll behave this time around. I am not alerting anyone and hope you stay on here. I just want you to know I know.
you've known me all of a week. please mr man. if i remember correctly, the source wall holds all new gods right? how did darksied end up on the wall? explain it to me. what lead up to him getting on the wall? did superman beat him one on one or did he get a sun amp? help from someone? how did superman get to the source wall in the first place? why is it that i can't think of any fights where darkied and superman actually had a uninterupted fight where superman won clearly? inquiring minds want to know. film at 11.
Superman took him from earth to the sun against Darkseid's will and then enjoyed a sun amp from which he crushed him. If Darkseid had more fight in him he wouldnt let him cart him across the galaxy.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know who you are so please dont insult my intelligence. I just hope youll behave this time around. I am not alerting anyone and hope you stay on here. I just want you to know I know.Superman took him from earth to the sun against Darkseid's will and then enjoyed a sun amp from which he crushed him. If Darkseid had more fight in him he wouldnt let him cart him across the galaxy.
your intelligence? you aren't reading the same comics i am. certainly you don't know me. did we date? behave? are you kidding me? it's a comics forum where geeks and nerds argue about comics. who the hell is behaving badly? 😆 😆 😆 wait? are we myspace freinds?
superman took darksied to the sun, if i remember correctly, after wonder woman helped him and darksied injured himself. fight is there for invalid.
Originally posted by fangirl101The point is Superman won because it was a brawl and Darkseid powers missed.
your intelligence? you aren't reading the same comics i am. certainly you don't know me. did we date? behave? are you kidding me? it's a comics forum where geeks and nerds argue about comics. who the hell is behaving badly? 😆 😆 😆 wait? are we myspace freinds?superman took darksied to the sun, if i remember correctly, after wonder woman helped him and darksied injured himself. fight is there for invalid.
Apokolips now was one on one and the omega effect as actually used. Therefore that fight is valid.
Ok name me a fight where Darkseid has beaten Superman straight up. How many years back is it? As Superman has gotten more powerful darkseid has gotten less powerful. But Supes still hasnt beaten characters like Black Adam or Orion.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is Superman won because it was a brawl and Darkseid powers missed.Apokolips now was one on one and the omega effect as actually used. Therefore that fight is valid.
Ok name me a fight where Darkseid has beaten Superman straight up. How many years back is it? As Superman has gotten more powerful darkseid has gotten less powerful. But Supes still hasnt beaten characters like Black Adam or Orion.
as long we both know that superman batman fight superman had help and was losing before wonder woman stepped in. he would have died had she not blocked. i dont' remember darksied using the omega effect on superman. only his eye beams. darkseid beat superman in death of the new gods. easily.
Originally posted by fangirl101he did use it and it was clearly stated.
as long we both know that superman batman fight superman had help and was losing before wonder woman stepped in. he would have died had she not blocked. i dont' remember darksied using the omega effect on superman. only his eye beams. darkseid beat superman in death of the new gods. easily.
Darkseid beat Superman after he flew through his body and while Darkseid was amped as an equal to the Source. Regular powerset he hasnt beaten Supes straight up in years. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
he did use it and it was clearly stated.Darkseid beat Superman after he flew through his body and while Darkseid was amped as an equal to the Source. Regular powerset he hasnt beaten Supes straight up in years. 🙂
wasn't darksied made up of pure soul when superman flew thru him. which is why he was able to do that. i don't remember darkseid using the omega effect on superman. it states in countdown that no one has ever escaped the omega effect. so that pretty much says that any time anyone has ever been hit by a beam from darkseid and they lived, it WASN"T the omega effect.
Originally posted by fangirl101Yep your nver.
wasn't darksied made up of pure soul when superman flew thru him. which is why he was able to do that. i don't remember darkseid using the omega effect on superman. it states in countdown that no one has ever escaped the omega effect. so that pretty much says that any time anyone has ever been hit by a beam from darkseid and they lived, it WASN"T the omega effect.
Supes still flew through him. That was a generalized statement and reading apokolips now it clearly states the omega effect. Sorry but classic Darkseid is a peer of Superman now.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yep your nver.Supes still flew through him. That was a generalized statement and reading apokolips now it clearly states the omega effect. Sorry but classic Darkseid is a peer of Superman now.
i'm never what? right? actually i am right. superman flew thru a sould version of darkseid. wasn't that clear? and i didn't read apokolips now. so i have no idea. but countdown says that no one has ever escaped the omega effect. that means what it means. you can't say something is a general statement just because you don't like it.
Originally posted by fangirl101its not a retcon plus you already admitted to not reading apokolips now.
i'm never what? right? actually i am right. superman flew thru a sould version of darkseid. wasn't that clear? and i didn't read apokolips now. so i have no idea. but countdown says that no one has ever escaped the omega effect. that means what it means. you can't say something is a general statement just because you don't like it.
Originally posted by quanchi112yes. i've just said that i haven't read that story. why are you reminding me of something that i just said. retcon? in the book, it says no one has escaped the omega effect. that would mean that no one has. take it as you will. it's on paper. without refute.
its not a retcon plus you already admitted to not reading apokolips now.