Thor amped with the power gem vs Hank amped with rings

Originally posted by Creshosk
As both pine sol and Apple juice are amber colored liquids.

And Blank and the invisible woman both generate forcefields as well... Ig uess since they're all forcefields composed of energy thano's forcefield couldn't survive an impact with the ocean. 🙄

My poiint is that simply because they are similar they aren't neccicerily comparable.

Why because Thanos said that Thor could break HIS Forcefield?

Again only you are drawing the comparison here.

You don't get it do you? These comparisons show how your logci is faulty. So yeah they have as much to do with the debate as your comparisons. Because you are basically saying the same damned thing as "Since the forcefields look the same they must be the same" which is basically saying "Since they look the same, they are the same" hence "Since Pine Sol looks like apple juice, it must BE apple juice".

They are comparable. I didnt say they were exactly the same thing but they are definitely comparable.

Even if you still choose to disagree it has lnothing to do wit who wins this thread. If my argument was based off this then maybe it would be but my argument isnt. If you dont like my compari son and disagree thats fine. People disagree all the time here and I am cool with that.

Again nothing Henshaws gun did could do anything t stop this Thor. There is no proof as to suggest otherwise. Now I believe the Im as the sources agent could stop Thor but he isnt in this thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112 Pine sol and apple juice have different effects while Thanos' energy field and Im's field had the same effect._ They both contained a supowerpowered being._ See my comparisons had the same effect while yours didnt.They are comparable._ I didnt say they were exactly the same thing but they are definitely comparable.Even if you still choose to disagree it has lnothing to do wit who wins this thread._ If my argument was based off this then maybe it would be but my argument isnt._ If you dont like my compari son and disagree thats fine._ People disagree all the time here and I am cool with that.Again nothing Henshaws gun did could do anything t stop this Thor._ There is no proof as to suggest otherwise._ Now I believe the Im as the sources agent could stop Thor but he isnt in this thread.

Originally posted by fangirl101
pine sol and apple juice both are wet, and both are liquid. on the surface they both have the same effect. to quench thirst. especially if the person has no taste buds. we dont' know that they had the same effect since they are two different superbeings. we dont' know what type of energy it was, or anything. they are NOT comparable. at all. thor loses anyway. can't beat what he can't hit.

What does taste buds have to do with anything pine sol will harm you.

Thor wins as there was no evidence that Henshaw could replicate this. 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
They both contained superpowered beings. Both imprisoned beings while pine sol will do damage to you if you drink it while apple juice will taste good and cause you know harm. If they had the same effect then it would be a good comparison but the dont so its a bad comparison.

What does taste buds have to do with anything pine sol will harm you.

Thor wins as there was no evidence that Henshaw could replicate this. 😛

Aren't you voting in another thread against Henshaw even though ION has no real feats yet?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pine sol and apple juice have different effects while Thanos' energy field and Im's field had the same effect. They both contained a supowerpowered being. See my comparisons had the same effect while yours didnt.

You're missing the point, not surprising, but still. The point is just because they seem similar doesn't mean they are the same.

Don't you get it? Its not a logical conclusion to make.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are comparable.

They look the same, they could all get a superbeing wet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I didnt say they were exactly the same thing but they are definitely comparable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even if you still choose to disagree it has lnothing to do wit who wins this thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If my argument was based off this then maybe it would be but my argument isnt.

So since apple juice, pine sol, beer and used oil all seem to be the same, they'd all be safe to give to a baby.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you dont like my compari son and disagree thats fine. People disagree all the time here and I am cool with that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again nothing Henshaws gun did could do anything t stop this Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no proof as to suggest otherwise. Now I believe the Im as the sources agent could stop Thor but he isnt in this thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They both contained superpowered beings. Both imprisoned beings while pine sol will do damage to you if you drink it while apple juice will taste good and cause you know harm. If they had the same effect then it would be a good comparison but the dont so its a bad comparison.

What does taste buds have to do with anything pine sol will harm you.

Thor wins as there was no evidence that Henshaw could replicate this. 😛

After you're dead you won't be thirsty anymore. So yeah, it can certainly quench thirst.

But we can use headless beer instead. it also looks like apple juice.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Would you perfer apple beer to regular beer?

You're missing the point, not surprising, but still. The point is just because they seem similar doesn't mean they are the same.

Don't you get it? Its not a logical conclusion to make.

just as these are comparable:

They look the same, they could all get a superbeing wet.

as I never said that pine sol and Apple juice are the exact same thing, nor is beer nor used oil. But they're comparable. (wet, amber colored, fragrent its possible(though not reccommended) to ingest all of them)

Its pointing out the horrible flaw in your logic. If showing how your logic is flawed has nothing to do with the thread then you clearly don't understand what debating is.

Your argument is "They seem to be the same so they could do the same."

So since apple juice, pine sol, beer and used oil all seem to be the same, they'd all be safe to give to a baby.

Except you seem to be telling me to stop doing it.

Why not? Certianly you're not still using Thor with THANOS's forcefield as the basis for saying this are you?

Neither is thanos... yet for some reason he was brought up as well...

My logic is sound it just seems you just dont get it. Its ok.

Thanos was brought up because he was the only one who put Thor down in combat. 😂

Originally posted by Creshosk
Apple juice and pine sol can both quench thirst. 🙂

After you're dead you won't be thirsty anymore. So yeah, it can certainly quench thirst.

But we can use headless beer instead. it also looks like apple juice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Continue to disagree with this as much as you want but its a good comparison.

The best you got is the important part of why you can't compare things simply because they seem to be similar. One is harmful, the other isn't.

That's why its important to not compare the two. THAT's specifically why I picked to similar seeming liquids.

There are more things different with the events you want to compare then there are between the liquids. You don't even get the grace of them being the same color.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you want to use miller lite and coors light I can work with that. They both arent exactly the same but both have the same effect.

Pine Sol stops thirst, Apple juice stops thirst.

Pine Sol a little more permenantly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They get you drunk. This energy fields both house superbeings. 😛

You can't compare the two simply because of a few similarities. That's what I'm getting at. If your energy fields are the same then so too is pine Sol and Apple juice. That's the point. You can't argue against one and support the other. They are BAD comparisons.

You can deny it all you want. But it just makes you hypocritical. Not me, why you ask? Cause I really don't htink that you should compare Pine Sol and say its Apple Juice.... but that's my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My logic is sound it just seems you just dont get it. Its ok.

How is commiting a fallacy sound logic?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was brought up because he was the only one who put Thor down in combat. 😂

And yet you want to defend the comparison?

Because Thanos SAID so?

Originally posted by quanchi112
One harms you and one doesnt. Thats a pretty big difference. 😉

These are all reasons why you shouldn't compare the two.

But really is that the best you got? "One harms you the other doesn't"?

Then Pine Sol and Apple Juice are closer to being comparable than your comparison of energy fields.

Its still a bad idea to say that Pine Sol is apple juice for that very reason.

"They seem to be similar so they are the same" Is the bad reasoning that you yourself are employing.

"Argument From Spurious Similarity"

If we allow your comparison of the energy fields to be used you HAVE to allow the apple juice pine sol coorelation in.

Otherwise you're being hypocritical... at least you'd be consistant in your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No its not. In fact its even more different from the pinesol and the apple juice. The shape of the energy is different as is the color, the source of the energy is different as well as who its imprisoning.

The best you got is the important part of why you can't compare things simply because they seem to be similar. One is harmful, the other isn't.

That's why its important to not compare the two. THAT's specifically why I picked to similar seeming liquids.

There are more things different with the events you want to compare then there are between the liquids. You don't even get the grace of them being the same color.

And your comparisons are not exactly the same. and actually have different effects. One stoped superman, one stopped thor.

Pine Sol stops thirst, Apple juice stops thirst.

Pine Sol a little more permenantly.

Different superbeings, different sources, different types of energy, different implimentations of said energy.

You can't compare the two simply because of a few similarities. That's what I'm getting at. If your energy fields are the same then so too is pine Sol and Apple juice. That's the point. You can't argue against one and support the other. They are BAD comparisons.

You can deny it all you want. But it just makes you hypocritical. Not me, why you ask? Cause I really don't htink that you should compare Pine Sol and say its Apple Juice.... but that's my point.

Your logic is NOT sound... its fallicious. in fact its the Argument From Spurious Similarity fallacy.

How is commiting a fallacy sound logic?

So in actuallity it could be argued since Thanos contained thor with the power gem with this forcefield argument that Henshaw could as well?

And yet you want to defend the comparison?

Because Thanos SAID so?

Thor was more powerful than Supes in both of these stories and Thor had a considerable amp.

Again one hurts you and one just quenches your thirst while both energy fields contain someone. 😎

I have seen no scans to prove Henshaw can replicate the power of Thanos' gun and in the same manner.

You are making me thirst for apple juice. 😛

Originally posted by Creshosk
One energy field was red, the other was blue, one was cubic the other was much more faceted.

These are all reasons why you shouldn't compare the two.

But really is that the best you got? "One harms you the other doesn't"?

Then Pine Sol and Apple Juice are closer to being comparable than your comparison of energy fields.

Its still a bad idea to say that Pine Sol is apple juice for that very reason.

"They seem to be similar so they are the same" Is the bad reasoning that you yourself are employing.

"Argument From Spurious Similarity"

If we allow your comparison of the energy fields to be used you HAVE to allow the apple juice pine sol coorelation in.

Otherwise you're being hypocritical... at least you'd be consistant in your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both had the same effect they both stopped a character. You have a point that the forcefield that stopped Thor was prolly stronger than the weak one needed for Supes.

My point has been that you CAN'T compare the two.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor was more powerful than Supes in both of these stories and Thor had a considerable amp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again one hurts you and one just quenches your thirst while both energy fields contain someone. 😎

The comparison between Apple Juice and Pine Sol is INTENTIONALLY faulty. That's the whole point. Pointing out how the two are different does nothing to show how the comparison to your reasoning is invalid. In fact it only helps me out when you realize that the comparison between the two is flawed.

You drink beer to quench your thirst. You drink Apple Juice to Quench your thirst.

Would you give both to a baby? They both serve the same funciton.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen no scans to prove Henshaw can replicate the power of Thanos' gun and in the same manner.

Do you see your fallacy there or do I have to tell you what it is?

You're assuming your premise true as evidence that it is true. ITs circular reasoning again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are making me thirst for apple juice. 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again this has nothing to do with who wins this thread. I already responded to all of your erroneous comparisons.

Just because they look the same, or appear to do things that are similar, does not mean that you can compare them.

You see a thirsty toddler, that you're supposed to solve the problem of their thirst.

You have beer, that's as good as apple juice right? I mean they look the same, they serve the same purpose. They must be the same thing right? So why not give the baby some beer?

Originally posted by Creshosk
I never said that. That was never my point.

My point has been that you CAN'T compare the two.

More of your biased speculation and circular reasoning.

You can try and paint the picture to show that they're comparable but numerous people including myself have already pointed out the differences.

The comparison between Apple Juice and Pine Sol is INTENTIONALLY faulty. That's the whole point. Pointing out how the two are different does nothing to show how the comparison to your reasoning is invalid. In fact it only helps me out when you realize that the comparison between the two is flawed.

You drink beer to quench your thirst. You drink Apple Juice to Quench your thirst.

Would you give both to a baby? They both serve the same funciton.

I've seen no scans to prove that Thanos's gun can replicate the power of Henshaw's gun.

Do you see your fallacy there or do I have to tell you what it is?

You're assuming your premise true as evidence that it is true. ITs circular reasoning again.

Make sure that it's Apple Juice and not Pine Sol or Apple juice. I know you're the type to see two things that are similar and think they're the same thing, so please be careful.

Beer and apple juice both have a different effect. Thanos served Thor a miller lite while the Im served supes a coor light. Both get ya drunk. Same result.

There is no evidence or scans to prove Henshaw can stop Thor.

Originally posted by Creshosk
The fact that they're erroeous is the point.

Just because they look the same, or appear to do things that are similar, does not mean that you can compare them.

You see a thirsty toddler, that you're supposed to solve the problem of their thirst.

You have beer, that's as good as apple juice right? I mean they look the same, they serve the same purpose. They must be the same thing right? So why not give the baby some beer?

Originally posted by quanchi112
My point is you can compare the two.

Beer and apple juice both have a different effect. Thanos served Thor a miller lite while the Im served supes a coor light. Both get ya drunk. Same result.

There is no evidence or scans to prove Henshaw can stop Thor.

....................That is such a load of horseshit. 😆 Hell, I could bring up how Henshaw took a guardian blast laughing, or how he survived the galaxy-killing blast of Warworld, or he doesn't even need a physical body period.

But against opposition like this, what's the point? dur

This really isn't rocket science. While most of these are even before his upgrades with rings. Borg can do things like this:

Notice Borg says he never tires (and it answers a question LLagrok asked earlier in the thread.)

As for grabbing the gem, it really shouldn't be that hard (look at how Drax lost it..a punch in the stomach) for someone with Borgs abilities.

He can be part of the environment (as in the 1st scan) or even be in multiple bodies.

A forceshield.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
....................That is such a load of horseshit. 😆 Hell, I could bring up how Henshaw took a guardian blast laughing, or how he survived the galaxy-killing blast of Warworld, or he doesn't even need a physical body period.

But against opposition like this, what's the point? dur

Originally posted by Avlon
This really isn't rocket science. While most of these are even before his upgrades with rings. Borg can do things like this:

Notice Borg says he never tires (and it answers a question LLagrok asked earlier in the thread.)

As for grabbing the gem, it really shouldn't be that hard (look at how Drax lost it..a punch in the stomach) for someone with Borgs abilities.

He can be part of the environment (as in the 1st scan) or even be in multiple bodies.

A forceshield.

Drax and Thor with the power gem are about as similar as applue juice and pine sol are. Different characters and different threats which is obvious to anyone who read the Thor story and winessed some of Drax's stories with the gem.

The more bodies means more for Thor to destroy as he was named as a universal threat and as I pointed out gets more powerful and doesnt tire. 🙂