Originally posted by fangirl101He doesnt have complete mastery over those aspects,he couldnt kill half the universe with a simple thought. I shouldnt have to explain this. It does give you infinite power and backs up the gems that way
clueless? i was making a point. the gem does NOT give the user infinite power. if it were, then someone with many powers, like odin, could grab it, and become god since he can control, souls, the mind, time, and reality already.
Originally posted by I love DC
He doesnt have complete mastery over those aspects,he couldnt kill half the universe with a simple thought. I shouldnt have to explain this. It does give you infinite power and backs up the gems that way
if the gem gave infinite power, thor would have simply wiped away the entire watch and thanos and dr. strange and surfer with one blast. please, don't try to educated the educated. it does nothing but give the user, without the use of the other gems, the ability to tap into an infinite supply of energy and other control factors. it is WITH the other gems that the power gem truly shines as it then has true infnite power at it's disposal as the other gems work in unison to help the user control said vast power.
Originally posted by AvlonDrax is an idiot and doesnt even know what the power gem does, did you see that some of the elders of the universe didnt even know fully what their gems did. Thor obviously was more of a threat and and amped himself more than the idiotic Drax and the not so smart Champion. When someone like Thor got his hands on the gem it showed off how powerful it can be in the right hands.
Prove it. Drax and even Thor show the opposite effect.If you had a real counter to cresh, trick, or anyone else, I would have commended you, but alas, the logic is not there.
Exactly, he couldn't touch her, and she even hurt him. Now put Borg in her place who is faster, stronger, has far more abilities, AND doesn't need a humanoid physical body to fight.
The post above covers this.
You haven't even shown me proof of what I asked for. Where does it show that Thor will not get tired? And now you claim he is physically unbeatable when he was restrained and hurt AND Drax lost his gem with a punch.
Answer my questions and show us proof. All I have seen are denials plain as day on your end. If you can't come up with anything on your end, we may as well just ask a mod to close this thread already.
You continue to ignore my question about his gun and who it would work against and who it would fail against.
Borg isnt as highly skilled as she is. She is known as the deadliest women in the universe. Again if all that was needed was skill they wouldnt have needed Thanos. Strange was surprised when he showed up that someone incapicated him.
I was just shown this in another thread by km it seems you can trap henshaw as well. He couldnt get out and resorted to begging Darkseid to free him. So I guess the same way they temporaily defeated Thor would also work on mr henshaw. Both can be trapped except Thor can eventually free himself while the same cant be said of mr henshaw.
Originally posted by CreshoskYou can physically beat up on Henshaw. Three knians did it. He cant amp himself up like Thor can and never went through the powerhouses and the group effort that Thor went through. He cant even seem to be able to kill Superman.
Conversely there is no evidence that Thor can even harm Henshaw. None,zero,zilch.And that's why you can't compare the two. It's the same fallacy that you're commiting.. but for some reason, I'm guessing the sae thing that inspired your signature, you refuse to understand the point of me even mentioning how Apple juice looks like these other things.
Like wise, you keep being illogical, I'll keep pointing out your illogic.
Calling it valid doesn't make it valid, just as calling an cat a pig doesn't make the feline act like a porcine.
If you can keep from commiting a fallacy, it'll be valid. as long as it commits one though, its invalid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Drax is an idiot and doesnt even know what the power gem does, did you see that some of the elders of the universe didnt even know fully what their gems did. Thor obviously was more of a threat and and amped himself more than the idiotic Drax and the not so smart Champion. When someone like Thor got his hands on the gem it showed off how powerful it can be in the right hands.
He still lost the gem physically, and Thor was trapped physically and couldn't just break out...
Originally posted by quanchi112
You continue to ignore my question about his gun and who it would work against and who it would fail against.
You mean you have dodged the question. Would your gun hold Thanos as well? Mine is adaptable, is yours?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Borg isnt as highly skilled as she is. She is known as the deadliest women in the universe. Again if all that was needed was skill they wouldnt have needed Thanos. Strange was surprised when he showed up that someone incapicated him.
Nice try at a dodge considering she is nowhere near as fast or strong or versatile as Henshaw.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I was just shown this in another thread by km it seems you can trap henshaw as well. He couldnt get out and resorted to begging Darkseid to free him. So I guess the same way they temporaily defeated Thor would also work on mr henshaw. Both can be trapped except Thor can eventually free himself while the same cant be said of mr henshaw.
You can matter manip Thanos as well. Should we use that in DS threads as well? Is the fully powered OE in this thread?
While we are at it, why have you ignored the plenty of evidence of Borgs advantages over Thor? That's running around covering your ears and shouting...not debating...
Oh, and... forcefields can be adapted to instantly and broken.. 🙂
Originally posted by AvlonDont you understand that if the character with the power gem doesnt know how to properly amp his or herself its kind of useless. Drax didnt even know what it was half the time and didnt draw the strength from it that Thor did.
He still lost the gem physically, and Thor was trapped physically and couldn't just break out...You mean you have dodged the question. Would your gun hold Thanos as well? Mine is adaptable, is yours?
Nice try at a dodge considering she is nowhere near as fast or strong or versatile as Henshaw.
You can matter manip Thanos as well. Should we use that in DS threads as well? Is the fully powered OE in this thread?
While we are at it, why have you ignored the plenty of evidence of Borgs advantages over Thor? That's running around covering your ears and shouting...not debating...
Oh, and... forcefields can be adapted to instantly and broken.. 🙂
She isnt as strong as Henshaw but she did no damage to him and couldnt stop him. She is also more skilled than Henshaw by a lot. 😉
All you do is dodge questions. Then you expect your on to be answered. I saw you dodgeing km's questions as well.
Surfer can matter manipulate and he cant beat Thanos. You have nothing and this isnt about Thanos. He defeated Thor here while Henshaw couldnt.
Again would his gun work on Darkseid,Superman,Superman Prime? Who could this gun defeat and who would it fail against? Quit dodging.
Yet Henshaw cant escape this and has to beg Darkseid to let him out.
Also notice how he leaves after and doesnt do a thing mainly due to him being outclassed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dont you understand that if the character with the power gem doesnt know how to properly amp his or herself its kind of useless. Drax didnt even know what it was half the time and didnt draw the strength from it that Thor did.She isnt as strong as Henshaw but she did no damage to him and couldnt stop him. She is also more skilled than Henshaw by a lot. 😉
All you do is dodge questions. Then you expect your on to be answered. I saw you dodgeing km's questions as well.
Surfer can matter manipulate and he cant beat Thanos. You have nothing and this isnt about Thanos. He defeated Thor here while Henshaw couldnt.
Again would his gun work on Darkseid,Superman,Superman Prime? Who could this gun defeat and who would it fail against? Quit dodging.
Yet Henshaw cant escape this and has to beg Darkseid to let him out.
Also notice how he leaves after and doesnt do a thing mainly due to him being outclassed.
Originally posted by quanchi112More of your bad logic.
You can physically beat up on Henshaw. Three knians did it. He cant amp himself up like Thor can and never went through the powerhouses and the group effort that Thor went through. He cant even seem to be able to kill Superman.
So "they're seperate characters" when the argument is in your favor to say such a thing and "Its a valid comparison" when the fact that you're comparing dissimilar characters is in your favor.
Hypocritical.
Originally posted by SuperherovandalI think he realizes also he has no chance against Darkseid and his forces. The only reason he did in the first place is because Doomsday cleared quite a path for him.
Or he's a man of his word. Not all villains lie and cheat when it comes to their honor. Like Doom. When he promises to do something he'll do it. Samething here.
