Originally posted by -K-M-Errr? Even I have even edited bios on the website,
so yeah you can but you need enough hero points.
Anyway,
the Infinity Gauntlet Handbook bio is exactly the same as the one at the site,
so I can't see someone going in there,
and writing everything in the actual Handbook word for word on that page,
on coincidence.
Without a doubt, that Infinity Gems bio at Marvel.com,
is the official bio from the Handbook.
If I have to go into my storage to prove that, I will. 🙂
I actually copied the handbook entry word for word for Diamond Lil, generally that's what most of the entries do. Anyone can edit the page, but if you don't have many hero points there will be no direct changes. The writer/webmasters have to approve your changes, but when you get enough points you can do it without them viewing your edits.
I don't know how it is set up now, but that's how it was set up awhile ago. I got rid of my account as you tend to get 3-4 emails daily from Marvel if you have a lot of hero points.
How many points do you have?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Not exactly.To the very end,
the Soul Gem was interfering:The Soul Gem even curses Rune was disturbing its plan with the struggle:
And that wasn't interfering, that was curses him. Rune didn't have Gems, so it couldn't have been interfering with anything.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Imo:
Plus, he had to act now so he could actually get within range of Rune. Otherwise Rune would have closed the hole in space before Surfer could get to him, had he not been distracted.
And either way, it's not like it's going to cut down on the PG's power.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree."One of the Omnipotent Infinity Gems"
Imo
When the LT is stating this, he's referring to the Gems individually,
this is why an artistic visualization is depicted of the individuals,
carrying the Gems individually:
I've tried looking everything in the scan, and reading it, etc. I just can't make it clear for myself.
The closest I can get to yours still has a haze to it, and the closest I can get to Nvr's still has a haze to it. I don't like it needless to say.
Originally posted by Mr MasterDon't worry about it, I was just saying that you were more than likely going to pull it out at one point in time here.
Yea, but I have to go into my storage, to find the corresponding Handbook,
then burn it, then crop it,
then upload it,
then post it on kmc.I'll hit you up tomorrow though. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr MasterI like my style too.
Nah.But I like your style B. 👆
We'll just agree, to disagree on this one.
OK, cool.
Originally posted by -K-M-.I actually copied the handbook entry word for word for Diamond Lil,
generally that's what most of the entries do.
Anyone can edit the page,
but if you don't have many hero points there will be no direct changes.
The writer/webmasters have to approve your changes,
Originally posted by -K-M-I don't know how it is set up now, but it was awhile ago.
I got rid of my account as you tend to get 3-4 emails daily from Marvel if you have a lot of hero points.
Stuart Vandal, (a Marvel bio writer)
stated over at comixfan, that no one but "writers" can edit bios.
He directed this specifically at me, 😂
cause I poked fun at Marvel.com
because I thought at that time privileged cats could make changes.
I don't know if he meant nowadays as opposed to before,
but that's what he said about 4 months back.
Originally posted by -K-M-How many points do you have?
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI know that, however, it didn't interfere when he was fighting Surfer at all, unless I missed something in the other book.
"Do not cajole me Stone"
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Rune was struggling with the Gem from the beginning, ^^^
to the end:
As we can see, "the beginning to the end" ... was only 4 panels: (on 2 pages)
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistAnd that wasn't interfering, that was curses him.
Rune didn't have Gems, so it couldn't have been interfering with anything.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistYa, Surfer caught him when he was struggling with the Soul Gem.
Plus, he had to act now so he could actually get within range of Rune. Otherwise Rune would have closed the hole in space before Surfer could get to him, had he not been distracted.
SS wanted to act now because Rune was struggling for control,
that, plus yes,
SS didn't want Rune to escape.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistAnd either way, it's not like it's going to cut down on the PG's power.
If the source of said powers is struggling against it's wielder,
it's going to have an ill-affect on said wielder's ability to harness said source.
I know the Power gem didn't speak directly,
but I can assure you, that the Power Gem, along with ALL the Gems,
were already becoming sentient by this time.
This is why the Soul Gem spoke directly to the other 5 Gems:
The following arc as you know,
is specifically about the Gems and the Sentience they developed.
(they were literally acting independently)
In fact, the finality of these arcs,
was when the Gems took on physical forms.
(which all derived from that first encounter with Rune)
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI've read the thing about 50 times already,
and it just doesn't get any clearer for me.I've tried looking everything in the scan, and reading it, etc.
I just can't make it clear for myself.The closest I can get to yours still has a haze to it,
and the closest I can get to Nvr's still has a haze to it.
I don't like it needless to say.
Originally posted by Mr Master"One of the Omnipotent Infinity Gems"
Imo
When the LT is stating this, he's referring to the Gems individually,
this is why an artistic visualization is depicted of the individuals,
carrying the Gems individually:
Originally posted by Mr MasterPersuade him?
Actually, the Gem was trying to control Rune,
from the moment Rune acquired all 6 Gems:"Do not cajole me Stone"
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Rune was struggling with the Gem from the beginning, ^^^
to the end:
As we can see, "the beginning to the end" ... was only 4 panels: (on 2 pages)
He stopped struggling as soon as Surfer showed up though. The Soul Gem was quiet, and Rune seemed to have no problem controlling what he did. 😬
Or 6 panels if you use the other one...
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea but at this point,
this happened after Rune had the IG:
Originally posted by Mr MasterHe seemed to stop.
Rune never stopped struggling with the Soul Gem.SS wanted to act now because Rune was struggling for control,
that, plus yes,
SS didn't want Rune to escape.
Perhaps.
Originally posted by Mr Master
It doesn't make a difference.If the source of said powers is struggling against it's wielder,
it's going to have an ill-affect on said wielder's ability to harness said source.I know the Power gem didn't speak directly,
but I can assure you, that the Power Gem, along with ALL the Gems,
were already becoming sentient by this time.This is why the Soul Gem spoke directly to the other 5 Gems:
The following arc as you know,
is specifically about the Gems and the Sentience they developed.
(they were literally acting independently)In fact, the finality of these arcs,
.
[B]was when the Gems took on physical forms
(which all derived from that first encounter with Rune) [/B]
Rune still had control at this time. The only one who acted up yet was the Soul Gem. The other's didn't.
Plus, Rune was able to stop time across the universe, so...
Originally posted by Mr MasterI realize this.
I'm not trying to convince you friend,
this is why I posted:
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistHe stopped struggling as soon as Surfer showed up though.
The Soul Gem was quiet,
and Rune seemed to have no problem controlling what he did.
I mean, even when Rune had lost the IG,
the Gem was still reprimanding Rune.
Telling me imo, it never stopped trying to manipulate Rune.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistOr 6 panels if you use the other one...
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI know, but he was just cursing him... not technically interfering with anything.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistIt was only trying to f*ck with Rune. It never effected the other Gems,
and Rune still maintained control the whole time.
The Gem spoke with the other Gems,
heck, in the following arc,
the Gems acted independently and manipulated Nemesis' recreation.
After that, they created/uncreated UniverseS on their own,
and finally became physical entities.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistAnd when Magus was struggling with Warlock,
neither's power with the IG faltered a bit... so...
Magus wasn't struggling with another being.
Rune was struggling with the source itself.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistRune still had control at this time.
The only one who acted up yet was the Soul Gem. The other's didn't.
The Soul Gem spoke to it's brothers (the other 5 Gems)
and they acknowledged being spoken to, because they listened.
This Rune arc was a prelude as to what the Gems were becoming,
in fact, as to what the Gems became in the next arc:
Don't ask me how they became Gems again for the Illuminati arc,
that's one of those Marvel mysteries.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistPlus, Rune was able to stop time across the universe, so...
It was once he had formed the IG,
that the Gem tried to take control of Rune.
Originally posted by Mr Mastermaybe marvel doesn't consider that story as canon, and that is why the gems are still gems in the marvel u? that is a very reasonable explaination.
Just cause the Soul Gem didn't speak on the second page,
(second page being a splash page)
doesn't mean it stopped doing, what it was doing from the beginning.I mean, even when Rune had lost the IG,
the Gem was still reprimanding Rune.Telling me imo, it never stopped trying to manipulate Rune.
Meh, SS was only touched once though.
He didn't have the IG at this point,
so it's inconsequential what the Gems did by then.I disagree.
The Gem spoke with the other Gems,
heck, in the following arc,
the Gems acted independently and manipulated Nemesis' recreation.After that, they created/uncreated UniverseS on their own,
and finally became physical entities.This is inconsequential to this debate.
Magus wasn't struggling with another being.
Rune was struggling with the source itself.
I disagree.
The Soul Gem spoke to it's brothers (the other 5 Gems)
and they acknowledged being spoken to, because they listened.This Rune arc was a prelude as to what the Gems were becoming,
in fact, as to what the Gems became in the next arc:
Don't ask me how they became Gems again for the Illuminati arc,
that's one of those Marvel mysteries.He only had the Time Gem.
It was once he had formed the IG,
that the Gem tried to take control of Rune.
Originally posted by Mr MasterDoesn't it?
Just cause the Soul Gem didn't speak on the second page,
(second page being a splash page)
doesn't mean it stopped doing, what it was doing from the beginning.I mean, even when Rune had lost the IG,
the Gem was still reprimanding Rune.Telling me imo, it never stopped trying to manipulate Rune.
Meh, SS was only touched once though.
The Gem was still talking about Rune. Most likely due to the fact that Rune just f*cked him over by losing all the Gems that were in one place. Which is what the Soul Gem wanted.
It tells me he let off. As soon as Surfer came it yelled "NO!". And before that, he could barely function due to the Soul Gem distracting him. After that, he functioned perfectly.
Face it, he was in good condition, and Surfer earned the biggest pis win in comics. 😬
He even said that the IG couldn't stand against the Power Cosmic. 😂
Originally posted by Mr Master😐
He didn't have the IG at this point,
so it's inconsequential what the Gems did by then.
I was poking fun at you saying he was still interfering.
Originally posted by Mr MasterAfter? So not during?
I disagree.The Gem spoke with the other Gems,
heck, in the following arc,
the Gems acted independently and manipulated Nemesis' recreation.After that, they created/uncreated UniverseS on their own,
and finally became physical entities.
OK, cool.
Originally posted by Mr MasterMagus was struggling to gain control of the power against something else.
This is inconsequential to this debate.Magus wasn't struggling with another being.
Rune was struggling with the source itself.
Both Adam Warlock, and Magus were connected to the power of the IG at the time; neither's power fell.
Originally posted by Mr MasterDid they act up?
I disagree.The Soul Gem spoke to it's brothers (the other 5 Gems)
and they acknowledged being spoken to, because they listened.This Rune arc was a prelude as to what the Gems were becoming,
in fact, as to what the Gems became in the next arc:
Don't ask me how they became Gems again for the Illuminati arc,
that's one of those Marvel mysteries.
They didn't fight anything. And that's speculation saying otherwise, just because of the next arc.
As a matter of fact, he was able to control the Time Gem on a universal scale.
It just isn't relevant.
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe Soul Gem was acting up when it was on Adam.
He only had the Time Gem.It was once he had formed the IG,
that the Gem tried to take control of Rune.
Originally posted by fangirl101maybe marvel doesn't consider that story as canon,
and that is why the gems are still gems in the marvel u?that is a very reasonable explaination.
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100% Canon!
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(The Avengers/Ultraforce Arc was the official merging of the Realities on panel)
http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appuv.htm
(bottom paragraph)
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The Ultraverse is just another Marvel Universe Earth
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2005 Alternate Universes)
"Earth-93060 Ultraverse. Hardcase #1 (1993)"
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"Ultraverse:
Alternate Earth (Earth-93060)"
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Marvel.com again, certifying it's canonicity!
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Infinity%20Gems
(second to last paragraph)
"The Infinity Gems were eventually taken by an energy vampire
from an alternate-reality ... In that other Multiverse"
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Nemesis was able to destroy the 616 Universe and the Ultraverse,
those are the Two Prime UniverseS of their respective MultiverseS. (specially 616)
and then,
she was able to remake a New mini Reality that was made from both:
"What we have witnessed
and experience of TWO Universes (616/Ultraverse) must be undone!"
"in the blink of an eye the Being called [i]Nemesis Obliterates Two Universes "
"not with destructive force,
but with a wave of creative energy,
thus Reality is not brought to the edge of apocalypse, but its very Origins[/i]"
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Ultraverse/Avengers BIO - confirms the event was 100% Canon!
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(second to last paragraph)
"The Infinity Gems were sought by numerous other beings, including Count Abyss,
but were eventually taken by an energy vampire from an alternate-reality.
In that OTHER Multiverse, ✅
they were collected by Loki but then reunited with a seventh gem, the Ego Gem,
the remnant of Nemesis' consciousness,
who wreaked havoc in BOTH Dimensions."
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Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistThe Gem was still talking about Rune. Most likely due to the fact that Rune just f*cked him over by losing all the Gems that were in one place. Which is what the Soul Gem wanted.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistIt tells me he let off. As soon as Surfer came it yelled "NO!". And before that, he could barely function due to the Soul Gem distracting him. After that, he functioned perfectly.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistFace it, he was in good condition
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfistand Surfer earned the biggest pis win in comics.
He even said that the IG couldn't stand against the Power Cosmic.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI was poking fun at you saying he was still interfering.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistMagus was struggling to gain control of the power against something else.
Both Adam Warlock, and Magus were connected to the power of the IG at the time; neither's power fell.
Warlock and Magus were struggling for control of the IG. (source of power)
Rune was struggling with part of the source of power itself. (Soul Gem)
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistDid they act up?
They didn't fight anything. And that's speculation saying otherwise,
just because of the next arc.
It never came off of his forehead,
and it claimed that it was struggling to control Rune the entire time,
and it had finally won."
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Rune re-enters the Ultraverse after his skirmish with the Silver Surfer:
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Rune notices the Soul Gem is still attached to his forehead:
"Get out of my soul"
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Like I said,
the Soul Gem never stopped trying to control Rune during his SS encounter:
"The time for silence is at an end, our battle is over, I am the victor"
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Here the Soul Gem claims that NO one has ever controlled it,
including Thanos, or Warlock:
Apparently, the Soul Gem has only allowed the illusion of control,
it seems to enjoy exercising it's powers through hosts.
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Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistAs a matter of fact,
he was able to control the Time Gem on a universal scale.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistThe Soul Gem was acting up when it was on Adam.
It was certainly the only Gem to have acted up in the arc.
Especially when we consider the new scans I just posted. 🙂
Originally posted by BentleyApparently has evidently? That doesn't roll of your tongue.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistHow was that arc by the way?
It seems so... awful, but interesting at the same time.
There's some solid obscure info across this arc, that, I did enjoy.
