Originally posted by fangirl101
silver surfer uses the power cosmic much better than terrax, does that mean becuz terraxes skill is low he's not herald lvl? think slowly and carefully about your answer.
Again you do not get what im saying. Yes Terrax and SS are heralds but since SS has more experience, more skill, more capability of mastering the power cosmic THat is why he is better just like any GL gifted with the ring. The use of the ring/power cosmic determines devastation. Terrax is not as a high herald as SS and i thgink everyone agrees with that. But he is a mid herald ballpark.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Steel and Supergirl werent being amped to ridiculous levels by the power gem. Sorry he isnt disabling the power gem with a gun that beat Supergirl and Steel both of which would fall before Thor in seconds.
Doesn't matter what power levesl they are at. What matters is how it works. It adapted to disable them in different ways. Considering Borgs abilities, adapting it for Thor is a no brainer.
Look at how easily he adapted to Superman blues field. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Im used the same method which is a testament to Thanos tech. 🙂 It is relevant because it was very similar and was used by a very powerful being to deal with Superman.
Spiderman throws a punch just like Thanos throws a punch...therefore, it is a testament to spideys fists.
That is about how ridiculous your example was. Infinity man has nothing to do with this thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you see the team that was assembled to stop Thor. It wasnt as easy as you are making it out to take his gem. Cyborgs gun would fail and he would fail. Was this gun feat before or after hunter and prey?
The same team that was still taking it easy on their pal who they knew was out of his mind. Considering that Borg can create multiple bodies, tech constructs of any size, and ring constructs..that sounds like multiple ways to do such a thing.
Drax lost his with a punch to the stomach. Thor lost to a gun. LOL You can't even state if Thor was truly amped with that gem or not since Thanos with the power gem was briefly KO'd by Thor. 🙂
You can keep trying, but you aren't going to win.
Originally posted by Bentley
GL ring doesn't make you herald level, and sorry, rookie GL's are fodder to Hulk, that's why they call them rookies.The reasoning behind the "Guardians wouldn't allow such weaklings to guard a quadrant" is bs. There are peaceful quadrants, thats were the rookies go, the GLC is a law enforcement unit, not an army, people is not drafted just because of their power.
*hi five* can't agree more.
Originally posted by fangirl101Th eresistence is not a given. I GL must be able to have the capability to will his sheild to be strong. A rookie GL would not be able to make a forcefield of do anything with the ring to a degree say HAl could. so no just having a ring does not give you herald status... it is more than that.
do not the green lanters rings automatically enable massive dmg resistance and shielding? speed, flight, energy, and constructs? i'd say thier resistance to injury alone is up there with the heralds as soon as the ring is put on. and they seem to be better than the rookie gls of yester year.
Originally posted by fangirl101
there are different herald lvls correct? silver surfer is differnt from terrax correct? well then, now that we have that covered.
You've just got speculations and assumptions.
You have absolutely NO feats that back up your statements. I on the other hand, have dozens of examples where green lanterns fail to operate on low herald levels.
Originally posted by AvlonI won a long time ago. But Ill keep playing along.
Doesn't matter what power levesl they are at. What matters is how it works. It adapted to disable them in different ways. Considering Borgs abilities, adapting it for Thor is a no brainer.Look at how easily he adapted to Superman blues field. 🙂
Spiderman throws a punch just like Thanos throws a punch...therefore, it is a testament to spideys fists.
That is about how ridiculous your example was. Infinity man has nothing to do with this thread.
The same team that was still taking it easy on their pal who they knew was out of his mind. Considering that Borg can create multiple bodies, tech constructs of any size, and ring constructs..that sounds like multiple ways to do such a thing.
Drax lost his with a punch to the stomach. Thor lost to a gun. LOL You can't even state if Thor was truly amped with that gem or not since Thanos with the power gem was briefly KO'd by Thor. 🙂
You can keep trying, but you aren't going to win.
Comparing a fist to an energy field that contains your opponent is a faulty comparison. Not many have done this to powerful characters but Thanos and the Im have.
I have a question for this gun. Could it disable Superman Prime,Superman,Odin,Galactus? Since you say it doesnt matter and it adapts. Answer me who it would work against. Tell me who it would work on.
There are lots of times in comics the heroes band together and put their friend down. If you saw the cast of heroes gathered together and that they couldnt do it its a testament to Thanos' resourcefulness on the fly.
When his gun fails the Borg gets stomped.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I won a long time ago. But Ill keep playing along.
Being in denial doesn't mean you've won. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Comparing a fist to an energy field that contains your opponent is a faulty comparison. Not many have done this to powerful characters but Thanos and the Im have.
LOL @ this Infinity man example. Let's get back to basics since IM or the source has nothing to do with this thread.
Forcefield gun > Power gem Thor. He was subdued...something that with Borgs tech ability wouldn't be hard to replicate if he chose that route himself.
A faulty comparison is that you want to downplay anyone who isn't Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have a question for this gun. Could it disable Superman Prime,Superman,Odin,Galactus? Since you say it doesnt matter and it adapts. Answer me who it would work against. Tell me who it would work on.
Can Thanos gun do so? That was just a sad attempt to compensate for your lack of argument.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There are lots of times in comics the heroes band together and put their friend down. If you saw the cast of heroes gathered together and that they couldnt do it its a testament to Thanos' resourcefulness on the fly.
So Thanos built this gun with superspeed? Getting a gun that happens to be in the vicinity counts as prep...and further defeats your argument.
Too bad Henshaw can create these types of things on the fly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When his gun fails the Borg gets stomped.
Considering it's more advanced that the one Thanos used, you're out on a limb. Plus the superior speed, multiple bodies, adaptable tech, power amping through his own rings, forcefields, shields, etc.
You can try again, but really...it's just getting sad.
Originally posted by AvlonI am not downplaying anyone. I am saying that these energy containments have taken out more powerful foes than Henshaws gun. Im took out Superman who is more than Supergirl and Steel. Thor with the power gem is greater than these characters together as a team.
Being in denial doesn't mean you've won. 🙂LOL @ this Infinity man example. Let's get back to basics since IM or the source has nothing to do with this thread.
Forcefield gun > Power gem Thor. He was subdued...something that with Borgs tech ability wouldn't be hard to replicate if he chose that route himself.
A faulty comparison is that you want to downplay anyone who isn't Thanos.
Can Thanos gun do so? That was just a sad attempt to compensate for your lack of argument.
So Thanos built this gun with superspeed? Getting a gun that happens to be in the vicinity counts as prep...and further defeats your argument.
Too bad Henshaw can create these types of things on the fly.
Considering it's more advanced that the one Thanos used, you're out on a limb. Plus the superior speed, multiple bodies, adaptable tech, power amping through his own rings, forcefields, shields, etc.
You can try again, but really...it's just getting sad.
Why avoid my question maybe because it depends on who it hits. Quite frankly you have only proven it takes out Steel 😂 and Supergirl.
Thanos added this guns power to himself after this. This was just something he had lying around. His great experiments such as Omega and his clones would maul anything Borg can do.
Again all answer my question and quit hiding behind a feat thatook out the mighty Steel and the all powerful Supergirl.
Thor will break through any forcefield that Henshaw can put up. The more bodies he creates the more Thor destroys. 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not downplaying anyone. I am saying that these energy containments have taken out more powerful foes than Henshaws gun. Im took out Superman who is more than Supergirl and Steel. Thor with the power gem is greater than these characters together as a team.
Prove it. My guns adapts and turns off powers, causes pain, and contains...and borg was still being nice. Incidentally, borg can adapt weapons on the fly AND so can the rings.
You, have a forcefield gun...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why avoid my question maybe because it depends on who it hits. Quite frankly you have only proven it takes out Steel 😂 and Supergirl.
So let us all know what level this gun is on then. 🙂
Lots of characters can make forcefields, Thanos is the only one who did. Kudos to him..but hardly and original ability.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos added this guns power to himself after this. This was just something he had lying around. His great experiments such as Omega and his clones would maul anything Borg can do.
Sometimes I wonder if you even read your own debates. So, a gun that was laying around, that Thanos was slowly able to get to(because...for some reason Thor let him) is above a power gem Thor.
Yet, a guy that embodies the best tech from all over the universe plus 8 weapons that can do nearly anything can't win in your eyes.
LOL
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again all answer my question and quit hiding behind a feat thatook out the mighty Steel and the all powerful Supergirl.
What about Thanos gun shows it as superior to anyone elses tech?
That's right...nothing. Nobody else tried putting a forcefield around him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor will break through any forcefield that Henshaw can put up. The more bodies he creates the more Thor destroys. 😉
He must be dreaming about it after Henshaw shuts down his powers, takes his gem, and blasts him to death.
Oh yea...he can do that forcefield too...either with tech, rings, or a combination of both.
Let me guess...like your old "debate".. Thor has heart right? LOL
Oh...and unlike Thanos..Borg is fast. 🙂
Originally posted by AvlonYour gun didnt take out any heavyweights. And you keep avoiding my question. 😄
Prove it. My guns adapts and turns off powers, causes pain, and contains...and borg was still being nice.Yours just contains.
So let us all know what level this gun is on then. 🙂
Lots of characters can make forcefields, Thanos is the only one who did. Kudos to him..but hardly and original ability.Sometimes I wonder if you even read your own debates. So, a gun that was laying around, that Thanos was slowly able to get to(because...for some reason Thor let him) is above a power gem Thor.
Yet, a guy that embodies the best tech from all over the universe plus 8 weapons that can do nearly anything can't win in your eyes.
LOL
What about Thanos gun shows it as superior to anyone elses tech?
That's right...nothing. Nobody else tried putting a forcefield around him.He must be dreaming about it after Henshaw shuts down his powers, takes his gem, and blasts him to death.
Oh yea...he can do that forcefield too...either with tech, rings, or a combination of both.
Oh...and unlike Thanos..Borg is fast. 🙂
Thanos did what Strange and the Watch couldnt accomplish. Do you know what Strange is capable of on his own.
The mere fact that Strange and company couldnt contain Thor speaks volumes.
Borgs speed will grant him enough time but he cant delay the inevitable. Show me Borg's gun taking out someone who is powerful. More powerful than Steel and Supergirl and please quit avoiding my question.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your gun didnt take out any heavyweights. And you keep avoiding my question. 😄Thanos did what Strange and the Watch couldnt accomplish. Do you know what Strange is capable of on his own.
The mere fact that Strange and company couldnt contain Thor speaks volumes.
Borgs speed will grant him enough time but he cant delay the inevitable. Show me Borg's gun taking out someone who is powerful. More powerful than Steel and Supergirl and please quit avoiding my question.
The mere fact that they were taking it easy because of his condition speaks volumes.
You said it yourself... do you know what Strange is capable of? It's like you like to defeat your own arguments.
Thanos had to depend on tech, something borg has built in as an inate ability...plus many more.
So show us all why this gun of yours is superior...The abilities have been laid out. Stop avoiding the question. 🙂
What stops Borg from locking thors powers, using his speed to take the gem, or just simply blasting the hell out of him?
Maybe you can ask the infinity man for advice.
Originally posted by AvlonYes Thanos tech could do what Strange could not. Thanos added this tech to his person and always has tech. The gun is superior because it stopped someone whom the Watch and Strange couldnt stop.
The mere fact that they were taking it easy because of his condition speaks volumes.You said it yourself... do you know what Strange is capable of? It's like you like to defeat your own arguments.
Thanos had to depend on tech, something borg has built in as an inate ability...plus many more.
So show us all why this gun of yours is superior...The abilities have been laid out. Stop avoiding the question. 🙂
What stops Borg from locking thors powers, using his speed to take the gem, or just simply blasting the hell out of him?
Maybe you can ask the infinity man for advice.
Your gun again stopped Steel and Supergirl. Hardly anything to be impressed about but when you read blood and thunder and saw all the mayhem caused by Thor the youd realize that Thanos stopping him when they just teleported him to Thanos' domain was very impressive.
I answer your questions while you avoid mine. Its fine. I dont dodge anything while it seems you do.
Again taking Thors gem isnt something thats easy to do but then again if I ask you Borg can oneshot practically anyone with this gun because you tend to vastly overrate him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes Thanos tech could do what Strange could not. Thanos added this tech to his person and always has tech. The gun is superior because it stopped someone whom the Watch and Strange couldnt stop.
Thanos needs to know and have it with him while Henshaw can create it anytime he needs it. There is a huge difference.
Tell me, was everyone in the fight bloodlusted and fighting Thor simultaneously? Nope.
Thanos was the only one who happened to try tech. Show us something that tells us Thor cant be stopped by tech and rings that can do just about anything.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your gun again stopped Steel and Supergirl. Hardly anything to be impressed about but when you read blood and thunder and saw all the mayhem caused by Thor the youd realize that Thanos stopping him when they just teleported him to Thanos' domain was very impressive.
your gun is a forcefield, and mine is an adaptable weapon used by galactic judges. Hmm... someone trying to downplay something? 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I answer your questions while you avoid mine. Its fine. I dont dodge anything while it seems you do.
Questions about Galactus and the Infinity man? lol
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again taking Thors gem isnt something thats easy to do but then again if I ask you Borg can oneshot practically anyone with this gun because you tend to vastly overrate him.
I simply asked you if Thanos gun can do what you asked since it was hilarious what turn you attempted to take the debate in.
You yourself admitted Thor was slow..and obviously not in his right mind if he allowed Thanos to go get a weapon. Henshaw has the speed, strength, intelligence, and weapons to win this.
I know you want to paint a different picture...but your love of Thanos blinds you to many things.
Originally posted by AvlonAgain would this gun work on Superman,Superman prime,Odin? If it wouldnt work please tell me why.
Thanos needs to know and have it with him while Henshaw can create it anytime he needs it. There is a huge difference.Tell me, was everyone in the fight bloodlusted and fighting Thor simultaneously? Nope.
Thanos was the only one who happened to try tech. Show us something that tells us Thor cant be stopped by tech and rings that can do just about anything.
your gun is a forcefield, and mine is an adaptable weapon used by galactic judges. Hmm... someone trying to downplay something? 🙂
Questions about Galactus and the Infinity man? lol
I simply asked you if Thanos gun can do what you asked since it was hilarious what turn you attempted to take the debate in.
You yourself admitted Thor was slow..and obviously not in his right mind if he allowed Thanos to go get a weapon. Henshaw has the speed, strength, intelligence, and weapons to win this.
I know you want to paint a different picture...but your love of Thanos blinds you to many things.
Thanos didnt know about Thor. He had this gun on him but quickly added it to his personal tech as he tried it on Odin without the gun later in the same story.
My gun has worked on a huge threat while your adaptable gun took out Supergirl and Steel. Big difference here.
Henshaw's attempts on Thor wouldnt work and his dream of death might come true. Its funny that you argue for a character that actually wants to die. 😂 That's his goal nowadays.
Originally posted by quanchi112😆
Again would this gun work on Superman,Superman prime,Odin? If it wouldnt work please tell me why.Thanos didnt know about Thor. He had this gun on him but quickly added it to his personal tech as he tried it on Odin without the gun later in the same story.
My gun has worked on a huge threat while your adaptable gun took out Supergirl and Steel. Big difference here.
Henshaw's attempts on Thor wouldnt work and his dream of death might come true. Its funny that you argue for a character that actually wants to die. 😂 That's his goal nowadays.