Well the only thing going agaisn't Spidey is low showings with obvious CIS/PIS mixed in with bias opinions. No one has been able to negate peters obvious advantage in speed/strength/durability with any type of sensible argument. All I see is scans of Cap that give no indication that he could take Spidey h2h.
As i've mentioned before, if Peter was written to the best of his abilites without serving the interest of the plot he would KO Cap before CA could even react. Spidey 7/10
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well the only thing going agaisn't Spidey is low showings with obvious CIS/PIS mixed in with bias opinions. No one has been able to negate peters obvious advantage in speed/strength/durability with any type of sensible argument. All I see is scans of Cap that give no indication that he could take Spidey h2h.
Not even the scans where he's taking Spidey?
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Originally posted by The Great GalenSpiderwank who doesn't exist doesn't mean more to this debate than the one who does.
As i've mentioned before, if Peter was written to the best of his abilites without serving the interest of the plot he would KO Cap before CA could even react. Spidey 7/10
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well the only thing going agaisn't Spidey is low showings with obvious CIS/PIS mixed in with bias opinions. No one has been able to negate peters obvious advantage in speed/strength/durability with any type of sensible argument. All I see is scans of Cap that give no indication that he could take Spidey h2h.As i've mentioned before, if Peter was written to the best of his abilites without serving the interest of the plot he would KO Cap before CA could even react. Spidey 7/10
yup like I said. Your an idiot.
You ignore all evidences presented to you becuases you dislike it and present no evidences your self.
pleases just go away your making a fool out of your self.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well the only thing going agaisn't Spidey is low showings with obvious CIS/PIS mixed in with bias opinions. No one has been able to negate peters obvious advantage in speed/strength/durability with any type of sensible argument. All I see is scans of Cap that give no indication that he could take Spidey h2h.As i've mentioned before, if Peter was written to the best of his abilites without serving the interest of the plot he would KO Cap before CA could even react. Spidey 7/10
Low showings?
Man you are lost, you got spidey up on some God pedestal and its so very sad you don't understand or know the character your debating for.
Spidey has lost to high tier streetlevelers his entire career, at least 15-20 have stalemated or gotten the better of him and some have done it multiple times.
Is this what we do on KMC now, ignore evidence? Is that's whats hot on debate forums, ignore the evidence the very forum is named for?
I guess that's how KMC rolls.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Low showings?Man you are lost, you got spidey up on some God pedestal and its so very sad you don't understand or know the character your debating for.
Spidey has lost to high tier streetlevelers his entire career, at least 15-20 have stalemated or gotten the better of him and some have done it multiple times.
Is this what we do on KMC now, ignore evidence? Is that's whats hot on debate forums, ignore the evidence the very forum is named for?
I guess that's how KMC rolls.
Let me ask you a honest question, if someone like Silver Sufer was to lose to someone like Beast would you consider it reasonable because it was on panel. Writers are people too and they CAN make mistakes sometimes which is what is happening here with Spidey's low showings. Spidey is just one of those characters that is the unfortunate victime of comic book stupidity and lazy writing...the mere fact that anyone believes him and Cap are peers is a testament to how poorly portrayed Spidey is.
So in response to any"scans"all I will say is use common sense and dont let ur fanboyism cloud your judgment. Peter 7/10
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Let me ask you a honest question, if someone like Silver Sufer was to lose to someone like Beast would you consider it reasonable because it was on panel. Writers are people too and they CAN make mistakes sometimes which is what is happening here with Spidey's low showings. Spidey is just one of those characters that is the unfortunate victime of comic book stupidity and lazy writing...the mere fact that anyone believes him and Cap are peers is a testament to how poorly portrayed Spidey is.So in response to any"scans"all I will say is use common sense and dont let ur fanboyism cloud your judgment. Peter 7/10
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Let me ask you a honest question, if someone like Silver Sufer was to lose to someone like Beast would you consider it reasonable because it was on panel. Writers are people too and they CAN make mistakes sometimes which is what is happening here with Spidey's low showings. Spidey is just one of those characters that is the unfortunate victime of comic book stupidity and lazy writing...the mere fact that anyone believes him and Cap are peers is a testament to how poorly portrayed Spidey is.So in response to any"scans"all I will say is use common sense and dont let ur fanboyism cloud your judgment. Peter 7/10
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I see what you did there.
You said, Silver Surfer and Beast, the contrast between those two characters in power is astronomical (literally). That right there is a horrible example and you should be ashamed off yourself. If beast beat Silver surfer it would be PIS, just like Spider-man beat Fire-lord.
Do you know why it's PIS? Because we have seen from consistent showing of Surfers and Fire-lords power levers to be far, far, far, beyond anything beast and Spider-man are capable off.
Spider-man, again, does not hold such an advantage over cap.
Nice try, but,
"You're words are as empty as your soul"
(Sorry, playing some Castlevaina SOTN)
LULZ at comparing Spidey vs. Cap to Surfer vs. Beast.
Captain America has skill feats and striking power feats that puts his damage potential on level with Parker's.
He has speed feats that indicate he could easily keep up with Parker.
He has (multiple) showings against Spidey and many of Spidey's rogues - always depicting him as capable of managing (and almost always coming out on top) against such opponents.
If Beast were regularly written with lightspeed reflexes, planet-busting power, and the ability to take on and very often win against herald level characters....well, it wouldn't be PIS for him to take on the Surfer.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Spidey isn't laughing here:"UNNHHH!"
"URRRK!!"
Hmmm...oh I got it http://www.supermantv.net/wallpaperbattles/spiderman/spider-man.jpg Spidey 7/10
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hmmm...oh I got it http://www.supermantv.net/wallpaperbattles/spiderman/spider-man.jpg Spidey 7/10
Man I just laughed so hard, thanks for the laugh, seriously!
I don't even think I can take you seriously anymore!!!
LOL
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Look I want to avoid a flame war here, but there just isn't any conrete evidence(reasonable evidence)to support Cap is on spidey's level. Plz reconsider ur position.
Your arguement has been this "I don't like it so it must be pis" "no matter how many times it happens im just gunna keep igoring"
honestly this is getting pathetic.
If CA can keep up with Spidey then he's not peak human at all.
He would be very much super human. If CA can travel as fast as a bullet then I guess he has super powers since he would be traveling sonic speeds. [Sarcasm]He's Classic Quicksilver with super strength and super reflexes. He definitely has super powers.[/Sarcasm]
I don't think so. CA is no more super human than I am a mouse.
CA is peak human by definition. Thus he can't physically keep up with a person with actual Super Powers (outside the range of human ability). Also Spidey is stronger and lighter so the only way CA's speed can compare is if he was at least 1.5 times stronger than Spidey. This is because since both these guys use their muscles for their speed then we must apply F=MA. But since CA isn't 1.5x stronger than Spidey then Spidey has to be at least 4x faster than him. That is to say, "How can CA generate similar acceleration as Spidey when Spidey is lighter and more than 10x stronger?"
And there is a scan where it shows a bullet shot at Spidey from behind. The bullet closes in on Spidey in slow motion while Spidey isn't looking. When the bullet gets about a few feet away (probably 4-5ft) Spidey's SS goes off and he turns his head to see the bullet. Then Spidey casually moves out of the way like it is nothing. There are others like this too. I'll try to find the scans. But this alone proves that Spidey will see CA in still motion.
Also has CA hit a single foe multiple times duplicating himself like Spidey did to Firelord, Hulk, and many others?
Also if CA never had his shield then how many times would he have gotten hit by the multiple barrage of bullets he went through so many times. There are many times CA is shown having to block many of the bullets with his shield. Without the shield at those times would have rendered him good as hit.
CA's speed should be far below Spidey's speed, otherwise we get nonsense.
Originally posted by h1a8
If CA can keep up with Spidey then he's not peak human at all.
He would be very much super human. If CA can travel as fast as a bullet then I guess he has super powers since he would be traveling sonic speeds. [Sarcasm]He's Classic Quicksilver with super strength and super reflexes. He definitely has super powers.[/Sarcasm]I don't think so. CA is no more super human than I am a mouse.
CA is peak human by definition. Thus he can't physically keep up with a person with actual Super Powers (outside the range of human ability). Also Spidey is stronger and lighter so the only way CA's speed can compare is if he was at least 1.5 times stronger than Spidey. This is because since both these guys use their muscles for their speed then we must apply F=MA. But since CA isn't 1.5x stronger than Spidey then Spidey has to be at least 4x faster than him. That is to say, "How can CA generate similar acceleration as Spidey when Spidey is lighter and more than 10x stronger?"And there is a scan where it shows a bullet shot at Spidey from behind. The bullet closes in on Spidey in slow motion while Spidey isn't looking. When the bullet gets about a few feet away (probably 4-5ft) Spidey's SS goes off and he turns his head to see the bullet. Then Spidey casually moves out of the way like it is nothing. There are others like this too. I'll try to find the scans. But this alone proves that Spidey will see CA in still motion.
Also has CA hit a single foe multiple times duplicating himself like Spidey did to Firelord, Hulk, and many others?
Also if CA never had his shield then how many times would he have gotten hit by the multiple barrage of bullets he went through so many times. There are many times CA is shown having to block many of the bullets with his shield. Without the shield at those times would have rendered him good as hit.
CA's speed should be far below Spidey's speed, otherwise we get nonsense.
Applying science to comics=nonsense.
Also, before I go off on a 5 paragraph rant to end the peak human debate, tell me, what is a peak human?
