Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Originally posted by h1a8
Then explain to me how he was able to squeeze off more than two more rounds while the first bullet was in the air. The bullets had to miss.

Also, little known fact about triggers. Once you pull a trigger, you do not have to release the trigger back into its default position in order to pull it again for another shot. You can release it a veritable fraction of the distance and pull it back again with your finger. So the first shot involves a longer heavier trigger pull and all subsequent ones are shorter, lighter pulls. This allows for a much more rapid ability to discharge multiple shots. If any of you have handled or know about real handguns, you know what I'm talking about. To those that don't, real handguns are nothing like the plastic ones you handle in the arcades. The reason for this design is that you obviously want a gun that can shoot multiple bullets in quick succession, but you don't want the slightest pulling to cause an accidental discharge. So this trigger design is a compromise. It takes quite a bit of finger strength and distance to pull the trigger back the first time, but once you do, you can depress it only slightly and pull it again and again for rapid fire.

Therefore, you combine the automatic revolver with this basic design of a trigger and combine that with Red Skull's Super-Soldier enhanced reflexes and you could probably achieve what happened in that scan. Remember, at that time, Red Skull's body was a clone of Steve Rogers' own body. At least, his fingers slightly pulling a trigger that quickly makes more sense than Cap dodging bullets after they're fired from point-blank range as in the 'Winter Soldier' arc. Does that make sense? May I have my No-Prize now?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You know I love to try to smooth out what people call PIS or writer/artist mistake. Haven't had a chance to in a while. But I'll try for this No-Prize. Because at first glance, he's kinda right. It doesn't seem to make sense for his revolver to be shooting shots in such quick succession. However, there are such things as automatic revolvers. They do not fire bursts like certain semi-automatic hanguns do, but they don't require any recocking of the hammer. So as fast as you can squeeze the trigger is as fast as they will shoot.

Also, little known fact about triggers. Once you pull a trigger, you do not have to release the trigger back into its default position in order to pull it again for another shot. You can release it a veritable fraction of the distance and pull it back again with your finger. So the first shot involves a longer heavier trigger pull and all subsequent ones are shorter, lighter pulls. This allows for a much more rapid ability to discharge multiple shots. If any of you have handled or know about real handguns, you know what I'm talking about. To those that don't, real handguns are nothing like the plastic ones you handle in the arcades. The reason for this design is that you obviously want a gun that can shoot multiple bullets in quick succession, but you don't want the slightest pulling to cause an accidental discharge. So this trigger design is a compromise. It takes quite a bit of finger strength and distance to pull the trigger back the first time, but once you do, you can depress it only slightly and pull it again and again for rapid fire.

Therefore, you combine the automatic revolver with this basic design of a trigger and combine that with Red Skull's Super-Soldier enhanced reflexes and you could probably achieve what happened in that scan. Remember, at that time, Red Skull's body was a clone of Steve Rogers' own body. At least, his fingers slightly pulling a trigger that quickly makes more sense than Cap dodging bullets after they're fired from point-blank range as in the 'Winter Soldier' arc. Does that make sense? May I have my No-Prize now?

Even without that obvoulsy the writer wanted to portray that Cap could move fatser than bullets but did'nt figure how it looked on panel.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You know I love to try to smooth out what people call PIS or writer/artist mistake. Haven't had a chance to in a while. But I'll try for this No-Prize. Because at first glance, he's kinda right. It doesn't seem to make sense for his revolver to be shooting shots in such quick succession. However, there are such things as automatic revolvers. They do not fire bursts like certain semi-automatic hanguns do, but they don't require any recocking of the hammer. So as fast as you can squeeze the trigger is as fast as they will shoot.

Also, little known fact about triggers. Once you pull a trigger, you do not have to release the trigger back into its default position in order to pull it again for another shot. You can release it a veritable fraction of the distance and pull it back again with your finger. So the first shot involves a longer heavier trigger pull and all subsequent ones are shorter, lighter pulls. This allows for a much more rapid ability to discharge multiple shots. If any of you have handled or know about real handguns, you know what I'm talking about. To those that don't, real handguns are nothing like the plastic ones you handle in the arcades. The reason for this design is that you obviously want a gun that can shoot multiple bullets in quick succession, but you don't want the slightest pulling to cause an accidental discharge. So this trigger design is a compromise. It takes quite a bit of finger strength and distance to pull the trigger back the first time, but once you do, you can depress it only slightly and pull it again and again for rapid fire.

Therefore, you combine the automatic revolver with this basic design of a trigger and combine that with Red Skull's Super-Soldier enhanced reflexes and you could probably achieve what happened in that scan. Remember, at that time, Red Skull's body was a clone of Steve Rogers' own body. At least, his fingers slightly pulling a trigger that quickly makes more sense than Cap dodging bullets after they're fired from point-blank range as in the 'Winter Soldier' arc. Does that make sense? May I have my No-Prize now?

Good post.

I have to go but will return later.
First, I don't think that was an automatic revolver.
Second, there is always a mechanism that limits the speed of which the second bullet can be fired. If you did some research I bet you will find out that is it impossible for someone to fire a round when the first one is already in the air even if they had infinite speed and reflexes.

Originally posted by h1a8
I have to go but will return later.
First, I don't think that was an automatic revolver.
Second, there is always a mechanism that limits the speed of which the second bullet can be fired. If you did some research I bet you will find out that is it impossible for someone to fire a round when the first one is already in the air even if they had infinite speed and reflexes.

😆 Man.......this guy. By the way what makes you think its not an automatic revolver?

Anyway....

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Red Skull is a trained Marksman. The guy was dead easy to shoot. 😐

Originally posted by h1a8
I have to go but will return later.
First, I don't think that was an automatic revolver.
Second, there is always a mechanism that limits the speed of which the second bullet can be fired. If you did some research I bet you will find out that is it impossible for someone to fire a round when the first one is already in the air even if they had infinite speed and reflexes.

Did you get your info from a cartoon?

Originally posted by Mindset
Your posts are non canon 😠

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You're non canon. In fact, I don't even have to talk to/about you, as you're not valid on the forum.

blue_bandana

You wanna take this outside?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
In fact, I don't even have to talk to/about you, as you're not valid on the forum.

Originally posted by h1a8
I have to go but will return later.
First, I don't think that was an automatic revolver.
Second, there is always a mechanism that limits the speed of which the second bullet can be fired. If you did some research I bet you will find out that is it impossible for someone to fire a round when the first one is already in the air even if they had infinite speed and reflexes.

That wouldn't be very fun... 🙁

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I bet if I did some research, I'd also find it impossible for a man to dodge a bullet from ten feet away and throw a shield AFTER it was fired. I also bet that if I did some research, it is impossible for someone to receive spider-like powers from a radioactive spider-bite. By this logic, where you refuse to suspend your disbelief... then it's impossible for Spiderman to have any of those powers in the first place and as such... all scans of him wielding powers is invalid. Guess he loses. So does Cap. This thread is null and void too because the characters and their feats could never exist...

That wouldn't be very fun... 🙁

You're wrong.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You're non canon. In fact, I don't even have to talk to/about you, as you're not valid on the forum.

I lol.....

I have a question for everyone. How do you think Cap would do against Spidey w/the symbiote? This question has nothing to with this thread, I just had an idea for a new thread. And I wanted to know if it would be a good idea before I made it.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I have a question for everyone. How do you think Cap would do against Spidey w/the symbiote? This question has nothing to with this thread, I just had an idea for a new thread. And I wanted to know if it would be a good idea before I made it.

or do you simply mean black suit spiderman were his strength was amped?

Originally posted by Mindship
Thanks, darth.

If I may nitpick: do you have any of Cap dodging multiple incoming, the way Spidey does? What you have here is Cap being very acrobatic and with great speed, but not actually dodging anything.

I'm curious because, just by virtue of Cap having his shield, he could well be less inclined to simply get out of the way, the way Spidey has to. Spider-Man doesn't just move his whole body in one direction; his individual body parts move so that he can dodge multiple incoming assaults.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
..............you mean with venom? That would be a spite thread.........

or do you simply mean black suit spiderman were his strength was amped?

Black suit Spidey. And I would also use Cap when he had got pushed to the superhuman level. How strong was Cap when he got pushed to the superhuman level anyway?

Originally posted by h1a8
No CA hasn't. Show me. And the scan must show CA into the tree while the bullet is still in the air. Otherwise, the bullet could have missed him by inches or missed him completely (didn't dodge it at all).

OMG.... 😐

Post a scan of Spiderman outstripping Cap in speed and I'll begin to match you scan for scan... go ahead...

Originally posted by h1a8
You have no proof that it is hyperbole. For Spidey has backed that statement up all his career.

BULL..... SHIT.....

His entire career he's dodged bullets, lasers, and nameless thugs.. Well hey Cap, Bucky, Moonknight, and even Robin have done that in SPADES... once again show me one scan were Spidey sees a peak human like a statue, show me one scan where he's untouchable to someone on Cap's level... "all his career" is made up of being stalemated and bested by people just like Cap, yet you're going to ignore that for HYPERBOLE.... This number has never been legitimately stated, even in handbooks for god sakes.

Originally posted by h1a8
And common sense says that if someone sees bullets in over 97% slow motion then they have to see CA in still motion, whether it happened in comics or not.

Originally posted by h1a8
Remember, I don't take any of the comic CA vs. Spidey fights as the truth of what will happen if the two were real and fought. And CA will never find a way to not be a statue to Spidey.

LMAO at CA fanboy's...they don't realize how outclassed the captain is.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
LMAO at CA fanboy's...they don't realize how outclassed the captain is.

Prove it.