Originally posted by -K-M-
Unmmmm...Desaad can't use the omega beams, so noyeah and that story didn't contradict anything, but when else?
Beams came out of his eyes, followed Superman, superman dodged them and they hit DS. Sounds like omega beams to me. Maybe we're thinking of different arcs.
Then there apokolips now, where he did it again.
In OWAW, he did it again.
There are probably other instances I'm forgetting.
Originally posted by Avlon
Beams came out of his eyes, followed Superman, superman dodged them and they hit DS. Sounds like omega beams to me. Maybe we're thinking of different arcs.Then there apokolips now, where he did it again.
In OWAW, he did it again.
There are probably other instances I'm forgetting.
First one was Desaad. so that doesn't count.
Apokolips Now was just terrible for DS. 😬
He didn't want to kill him in OWAW. And honestly, the Superman in that story moved freaking Warworld. 😄
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
First one was Desaad. so that doesn't count.Apokolips Now was just terrible for DS. 😬
He didn't want to kill him in OWAW. And honestly, the Superman in that story moved freaking Warworld. 😄
Terrible or not, it still counts.
Besides, I'm just talking about the beams, although I don't doubt henshaw has the strength to swell up Darkseids eyes either and making him useless. (Strange as that was.)
Originally posted by Avlon
Beams came out of his eyes, followed Superman, superman dodged them and they hit DS. Sounds like omega beams to me. Maybe we're thinking of different arcs.Then there apokolips now, where he did it again.
In OWAW, he did it again.
There are probably other instances I'm forgetting.
Superman #3 [Vol.2] was Desaad not Darkseid. Ummm...really? You seriously believe Desaad can tap into the full power of the Omega Effect? Are you serious? 😕
You already mentioned Apokolips Now
You mean when he used the Aegis armor to block the beams? 😕
Originally posted by Avlon
Terrible or not, it still counts.
😖hifty:
1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Showcase9610p06.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Showcase9610p07.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
He can survive a shot from the omega beams while recovering from a near fatal beatdown from Doomsday.
He was recovered just fine. KM, left that scan out of course, which took place before what he posted, and I don't feel like pulling out my scanner.
Originally posted by quanchi112
But when darkseid is at full capacity its a stomp. If this thread were right after he fought Doomsday then Henshaw would indeed win. But it isnt. 🙂
You still ignore the fact that Henshaw was fighting Superman and it took 2 blasts of the beams to take him down. He had to charge the 2nd blast while Supes and Henhsaw fought, sneak up on him and blast him point blank range.
Unfortunately for your case, both DD and Henshaw took the beams and kept on going. Doomsday was NOT distracted by Superman and thus ran up to DS before he charged up the second up close blast and beat him down. No reason a powered up Henshaw can't do the same.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos knew he was there yes but trsuted in moondragon to stall him. Its fine only he has the powers.
So by your definition, he is an idiot, right?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Warlocks ghost came back after Thanos killed him. Thanos was then resurrected as much more powerful. The Surfer also has these abilities and has been beaten down by Thanos easily. So I guess this proves that Warlocks ghost and not regular warlock can beat a weaker Thanos after he suprrpises him.
It was a one shot, by your definition. A dead man one shot Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why do you keep bringing up Thanos he isnt in the thread. Please quit trying to derail the thread.
Because it shows what a hypocrit you are. At least attempting to judge fairly is part of debate.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Superman #3 [Vol.2] was Desaad not Darkseid. Ummm...really? You seriously believe Desaad can tap into the full power of the Omega Effect? Are you serious? 😕You already mentioned Apokolips Now
You mean when he used the Aegis armor to block the beams? 😕
Never said he could...I'm simply talking about outrunning them, which he's done on more than one occasion.
Nowadays, Supes just seems to take them just fine, but I'm talking about being able to actually dodge or outrun them.
Originally posted by -K-M-😖hifty:
1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Showcase9610p06.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Showcase9610p07.jpg
Bibbo ftw. I can't debate against such power.
Originally posted by Avlon
Never said he could...I'm simply talking about outrunning them, which he's done on more than one occasion.Nowadays, Supes just seems to take them just fine, but I'm talking about being able to actually dodge or outrun them.
He's temporally avoided it, but I wouldn't say flat out outrun it as the beams generally get deflected by something else in a PIS/CIS situation
In OWAW at the start of it [not their fight] Superman got hit by the beams and it took Plastic Man and Kyle Rayner to stop his momentum. So depends on the writer, or how much power DS wants to bump into them as he can control how powerful they are
Originally posted by -K-M-
He's temporally avoided it, but I wouldn't say flat out outrun it as the beams generally get deflected by something else in a PIS/CIS situationIn OWAW at the start of it [not their fight] Superman got hit by the beams and it took Plastic Man and Kyle Rayner to stop his momentum. So depends on the writer, or how much power DS wants to bump into them as he can control how powerful they are
That could be said about a lot of things on here. For example, during morisson's run, Darkseid was killed by the Atom going into Darkseids brain and shutting it off, killing him. It's something that could easily be accomplished by Henshaws willhunters since they do the exact same thing in the same way.
Both have ways to take each other out. I believe I'm being pretty fair both ways.
Originally posted by Avlon
That could be said about a lot of things on here. For example, during morisson's run, Darkseid was killed by the Atom going into Darkseids brain and shutting it off, killing him. It's something that could easily be accomplished by Henshaws willhunters since they do the exact same thing in the same way.Both have ways to take each other out. I believe I'm being pretty fair both ways.
.......that was an alternate reality 😬
Darkseid has far more then what Cyborg can do to take him out
Originally posted by -K-M-
.......that was an alternate reality 😬Darkseid has far more then what Cyborg can do to take him out
Ah, it was a possible future from the direct present based on the same character. IE. It's not an alternate version of the character, so it's viable.
Matter of fact, it had happened already and then the JLA altered it.
Originally posted by Avlonif that were the case, then DS was unbeatable by any sense of the word. his shields were unbreakable. he was the ruler of the universe and was so powerful, the entire universe had to be wiped out in order to get rid of him, becuz he technically, couldn't be killed.
Ah, it was a possible future from the direct present based on the same character. IE. It's not an alternate version of the character, so it's viable.Matter of fact, it had happened already and then the JLA altered it.
Originally posted by Avlon
Ah, it was a possible future from the direct present based on the same character. IE. It's not an alternate version of the character, so it's viable.Matter of fact, it had happened already and then the JLA altered it.
Once again...are you serious? Age of Apocolypse or Days of Future Past was the real universe but does that mean Sentinels can incinerate Wolverine or Cyclops blow off Wolverine's hand? It's an alternate reality for goodness sake
Legion is a possible future, so can I use those feats as well?
Originally posted by -K-M-
Ah yes getting attacked from behind after believing your opponent is dead equals AWESOMENESSBesides do you think Cyborg could beat Hunter/Prey Doomsday?
Isn't this what happened to Henshaw though?
Why is it ok to accept it for one character and not another?
Notice what is said here...
and how many hits it was.
It's pretty possible that borg could do the same, considering that just like with Doomsday, he kept on fighting right after getting hit the first time.
Originally posted by -K-M-it seems that alternate time lines are now acceptible only becuz it validates galactus as this universal reality eater. without it, he's not. so it has to go across the board.
Once again...are you serious? Age of Apocolypse or Days of Future Past was the real universe but does that mean Sentinels can incinerate Wolverine or Cyclops blow off Wolverine's hand? It's an alternate reality for goodness sakeLegion is a possible future, so can I use those feats as well?
