Originally posted by celestialdemonOh yeah I remember that. Onslaught was all glowy and thanked hulk for helping him shed that shell... wound up killing a bunch of heroes just by touching them... and then it was revealed that the whole storyline was just a set up for the heroes reborn gimmick marvel had...
The same one that Hulk fans creamed themselves over when Hulk broke his armor? Yes, that one.
[i]Despite the fact that Thanos has stood up and survived confrontations with skyfathers, right? [/B]
The key word being "survived", there is a lot of supporting evidence to suggest someone of Hulks/juggy durability could handle whatever pain Thanos could inflict. On the other hand, how many punchs from a savage WWH ampled by the gem of cyttorak could Thanos take?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
The key word being "survived", there is a lot of supporting evidence to suggest someone of Hulks/juggy durability could handle whatever pain Thanos could inflict. On the other hand, how many punchs from a savage WWH ampled by the gem of cyttorak could Thanos take?
Juggy took the godblast which almost killed Galactus with little to no harm, Hulk shattered Onllaughts armor at his peak....so I doubt WWH hulk with the gem behind him will have a hard time breaking Thanos. Esepcially since Thanos did get cut badly by wolverine and got his ass raped by Drax (mind u wolverine couldn't cut Hulk).
Originally posted by The Great Galenso are you using hulk now or wwh hulk?
Juggy took the godblast which almost killed Galactus, Hulk shattered Onllaughts armor at his peak....so I doubt WWH hulk with the gem behind him will have a hard time break Thanos. Esepcially since Thanos did get cut badly by wolverine and got his ass raped by Drax.
it was not ww hulk that broke onslaughts armor it was regular hulk.and regular hulk has been ko'd by cap and iron man in 1 shot.
onslaught was at his peak when he was released from his armour
thanos has taken the goblast from thor before.
wolverine couldnt cut hulk ,so i take it you didnt read ww hulk xmen tie in then.
So you're taking obvious examples of PIS now to constitute a valid "low showing"for Hulk. Hulk survived the energy-draining portal from the shadow people which even SS had issues with (in fact Hulk had a better time dealing with the physical stress then SS). Not to mention, unlike Thanos Hulk has resisted the effects of adamantium and has never been pierced by wolverine(non pis situation im referring to).
Originally posted by The Great Galen
So you're taking obvious examples of PIS now to constitute a valid "low showing"for Hulk. Hulk survived the energy-draining portal from the shadow people which even SS had issues with (in fact Hulk had a better time dealing with the physical stress then SS). Not to mention, unlike Thanos Hulk has resisted the effects of adamantium and has never been pierced by wolverine(non pis situation im referring to).
Have you read much hulk woverine has been cutting up the hulk for years.He has cut savage hulk, Grey hulk and WWH.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Juggy took the godblast which almost killed Galactus with little to no harm, Hulk shattered Onllaughts armor at his peak....so I doubt WWH hulk with the gem behind him will have a hard time breaking Thanos. Esepcially since Thanos did get cut badly by wolverine and got his ass raped by Drax (mind u wolverine couldn't cut Hulk).
The Hulk also ripped through a dimensional rift a number of times with his bare hands. Anyone remember the crossroads saga, where Hulk broke into another dimension, when he was asked to help the puff being? That in itself was a hell of a feat... bet if he hit Prunehead with that, it would ruin his week.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
So you're taking obvious examples of PIS now to constitute a valid "low showing"for Hulk. Hulk survived the energy-draining portal from the shadow people which even SS had issues with (in fact Hulk had a better time dealing with the physical stress then SS). Not to mention, unlike Thanos Hulk has resisted the effects of adamantium and has never been pierced by wolverine(non pis situation im referring to).
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The Hulk also ripped through a dimensional rift a number of times with his bare hands. Anyone remember the crossroads saga, where Hulk broke into another dimension, when he was asked to help the puff being? That in itself was a hell of a feat... bet if he hit Prunehead with that, it would ruin his week.
Originally posted by skyfather
thanos took the full brunt from odin via the gungnir and and the beyonder and still got up,despite wwh+gem combo individually have be put down easily, ww hulk by a stark satellite and juggs being slapped for miles by onslaught who was in his early weak state.
Oh yeah, that beyonder was REEEEEALLY impressive.
Originally posted by skyfather
not on about how impressive the beyonder was or wasn't its about the blast she hit thanos with,which ripped open the klyn.
Through the Kyln? You mean created an explosion?
Annihilation ships ripped through the Kyln, they weren't nearly as impressive as a herald level character so it's not like that's any major feat anyways. She was mindraped by Oracle and Thanos.
Galactus also stated that Tenebrous and Aegis were far bigger threats than the Beyonder. Obviously this is not the original beyonder and she lacks any really impressive feats.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
The key word being "survived", there is a lot of supporting evidence to suggest someone of Hulks/juggy durability could handle whatever pain Thanos could inflict. On the other hand, how many punchs from a savage WWH ampled by the gem of cyttorak could Thanos take?
Really? What evidence is there supporting the durability of a Hulk/Juggy hybrid? I've seen both of their durability seperately, and both of them have been defeated before. Now, show me evidence that the gem will amplify the Hulk's strength to such levels that he can take on someone like Thanos.
Originally posted by skyfather
i doubt it, thanos journeyed to the nexus of reality traveling through realitys/dimesions and resisted the effects.
And yet when Galactus hit his shields (not his person) Thanos was on his knees begging for mercy. Perhaps Galactus hit harder than a being that beat him in the Secret Wars, and that was after he ate half the galaxy that they fought in. Hmmm... seems like a case of the PIS or is it CIS, I can't seem to figure out which one would apply.... I know why don't we call it both to be on the safe side.
Originally posted by llagrok
Through the Kyln? You mean created an explosion?Annihilation ships ripped through the Kyln, they weren't nearly as impressive as a herald level character so it's not like that's any major feat anyways. She was mindraped by Oracle and Thanos.
Galactus also stated that Tenebrous and Aegis were far bigger threats than the Beyonder. Obviously this is not the original beyonder and she lacks any really impressive feats.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
And yet when Galactus hit his shields (not his person) Thanos was on his knees begging for mercy. Perhaps Galactus hit harder than a being that beat him in the Secret Wars, and that was after he ate half the galaxy that they fought in. Hmmm... seems like a case of the PIS or is it CIS, I can't seem to figure out which one would apply.... I know why don't we call it both to be on the safe side.
Originally posted by skyfather
i never said through the klyn i said opened the klyn which was via said exspolsion.
the beyonders power were still the same but she was mentally unstable and was only vulnerable because of her mortal form.obviously if she/beyonder were in original form thanos would no have stood a chance.
Then this is a point that you should have never brought to the debate.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Then this is a point that you should have never brought to the debate.
are you responding just for the sake of it or are actually gonna bring something to this debate other than saying pis/cis on every point made in thanos's favour?
Originally posted by skyfather
the point of it is to demonstrate thanos's tolerance/durability to punishment/attacks.are you responding just for the sake of it or are actually gonna bring something to this debate other than saying pis/cis on every point made in thanos's favour?
No it's just as it looks, Thanos was unable to and is unable to take a blast from Galactus, yet he is able to take being bombarded by the energies of the nexus of realities. What I am saying is that he may be able to tolerate certain forces, while others seem to be able to destroy him.
When the Champion was hammering away at his shields, and we all saw them buckle, had he not changed tactics he would have been defeated. That was of course driven by plot, because Thanos had to possess all of the gems in order for the story to progress. In a forum battle his only chance would be to run or bfr Champion, but on a H2H playing field he would have lost. The same holds true for an amalgamation of King Hulk/Juggernaut.