Originally posted by GahLakTus
Ironman - the movie Decepticons were being owned by regular soldiers.Starscream you fail me yet again!!!!!!!!
Movie Decepticons werent being owned by regular soldiers. The 2 that were fighting on the street were fighting both Autobots AS WELL as Soldiers who were using upgraded heat generated firepower.
Starscream, next to Megatron was the only Decepticon who was owning. Starscream air fighting is more advanced than movie Ironmans. Plus Ironman doesnt have the weaponry to actually hurt Starscream. Also, If Starscream gets hold of Ironman, its a wrap too.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Movie Decepticons werent being owned by regular soldiers. The 2 that were fighting on the street were fighting both Autobots AS WELL as Soldiers who were using upgraded heat generated firepower.Starscream, next to Megatron was the only Decepticon who was owning. Starscream air fighting is more advanced than movie Ironmans. Plus Ironman doesnt have the weaponry to actually hurt Starscream. Also, If Starscream gets hold of Ironman, its a wrap too.
true Starscreme was owning but if Iron-Man has his advanced miniature arc reactor and his suit is fully charged he can do far more damage to Starscream than Starscream can do to him.
oh and those weren't flares, they were his repulsor beams.
Originally posted by complexbrother
true Starscreme was owning but if Iron-Man has his advanced miniature arc reactor and his suit is fully charged he can do far more damage to Starscream than Starscream can do to him.oh and those weren't flares, they were his repulsor beams.
iron man was struggling with the raptor detachment sent against him....starsreams maneouverabilty was far superior to conventional f22s ("none of our pilots fly that low, it must be the alien fighter"😉 i just saw transformers on cinemax hd. Starscream's flying was clearly superior than anything the human's can do....and as good as the suit makes tony, it doesn't give him the flying expertise of a veteran pilot, and it damn well doesn't give him the knowledge to even keep up with a transformer who was taking that entire squadron of f22 raptors to school by himself
Originally posted by Tenebrous
iron man was struggling with the raptor detachment sent against him....starsreams maneouverabilty was far superior to conventional f22s ("none of our pilots fly that low, it must be the alien fighter"😉 i just saw transformers on cinemax hd. Starscream's flying was clearly superior than anything the human's can do....and as good as the suit makes tony, it doesn't give him the flying expertise of a veteran pilot, and it damn well doesn't give him the knowledge to even keep up with a transformer who was taking that entire squadron of f22 raptors to school by himself
Originally posted by Tenebrous
iron man was struggling with the raptor detachment sent against him....starsreams maneouverabilty was far superior to conventional f22s ("none of our pilots fly that low, it must be the alien fighter"😉 i just saw transformers on cinemax hd. Starscream's flying was clearly superior than anything the human's can do....and as good as the suit makes tony, it doesn't give him the flying expertise of a veteran pilot, and it damn well doesn't give him the knowledge to even keep up with a transformer who was taking that entire squadron of f22 raptors to school by himself
Well Tony didn't really fight the two F-22's per say. They were unloading on him while Tony, on the other hand, was struggling to avoid any combat with them because he didn't want to shoot down American planes.
Originally posted by Evangel94exactly...tony was doing everything he could to NOT damage the fighter planes
Well Tony didn't really fight the two F-22's per say. They were unloading on him while Tony, on the other hand, was struggling to avoid any combat with them because he didn't want to shoot down American planes.
I think starscream loses...movie version sucks
Originally posted by superchron
Well, to be fair IM wasn't really trying to fight them, and when one of them hit him, he took its wing off
Originally posted by Evangel94
Well Tony didn't really fight the two F-22's per say. They were unloading on him while Tony, on the other hand, was struggling to avoid any combat with them because he didn't want to shoot down American planes.
Originally posted by Starscream M
exactly...tony was doing everything he could to NOT damage the fighter planesI think starscream loses...movie version sucks
I'm not talking about the damage at all...I'm talking about iron man being unable to out-manouevre them. He had to use counter-measures instead of getting out of their tactical range...he could not out-fly the missile, and he wasn't faster than the jets...if he were, why did he purposely hang around and allow them to fire at him, then realize he needed countermeasures to have a comfortable chance of surviving the whole ordeal? basically, they were chasing him, and he couldn't escape.
"Avoiding combat" means escape, and he didn't do that, because he couldn't.
Now you're talking about Starscream? He easily overpowered 6 of those Raptors, several of them with "hand-to-hand" combat...he didn't even use any ordinance. And comparing cybertronian ordinance to U.S. military ordinance....well we all saw how worried tony was about those conventional missiles.
Tony has no chance.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
I'm not talking about the damage at all...I'm talking about iron man being unable to out-manouevre them. He had to use counter-measures instead of getting out of their tactical range...he could not out-fly the missile, and he wasn't faster than the jets...if he were, why did he purposely hang around and allow them to fire at him, then realize he needed countermeasures to have a comfortable chance of surviving the whole ordeal? basically, they were chasing him, and he couldn't escape."Avoiding combat" means escape, and he didn't do that, because he couldn't.
Now you're talking about Starscream? He easily overpowered 6 of those Raptors, several of them with "hand-to-hand" combat...he didn't even use any ordinance. And comparing cybertronian ordinance to U.S. military ordinance....well we all saw how worried tony was about those conventional missiles.
Tony has no chance.
Well, Tony could have shot down those jets at any time if he really wanted to. Now because he didn't want to shoot them down, he spent his whole time running away from them while they shot at him both with missiles and guns.
I don't know what your definition of out-maneuvering them means, but doesn't the fact that Tony didn't get shot down (despite them trying to shoot him down) tell you he out-maneuvered them? He even hung on the underbelly of one those planes without the pilots realizing it for a while. Wouldn't you call that "out-maneuvering?"