EVANGEL94's Final Slugfest Tournament:~Final Championship Match~Darthgoober vs Typhus

Given that Goob is better at debating -he would not confuse the Nega bands with the Quantum bands- and I think he did more research overall, I'm pretty thorned in this vote.

To put it simply, I don't see why he would use spatial energy instead of his black hole, not only the black hole worked the last fight, but also he does not have any reason to choose spatial energy in the less. Does the amalgam has the Surfer memory? If not, I don't see why would he use that type of energy in particular, by definition, Surfer can manipulate lots of energies, that and how to do it is as much as familiarity with powers will get you with the adaptoid mind.

Also there are the details about the right weapons and amalgamations, for example, the Black Knight sword against Stardust. I know that the cosmic awareness justify this, but we did not see any showings regarding such a complex situation, and Surfer can be surprised. Even better, this is a machine having cosmic awareness -its adaptoid's mind-, minds react very differently to it, and its limited in weird ways. Also, can the adaptoid claim to know the Cap's shield advantage just by cosmic awareness? Big gray area there.

And the final issue the concept. The silver adaptoid lacks precisely in the area that the original Silver Surfer lacks: Using power to the full extent, historically Norrid has been written as someone with lots of potential who wastes it, and thats why he loses against people he should stomp -like Typhus team-, and while Goober gives a superior power via amalgamation, he did so by putting an ever more lacking mind in its head. An in character Silver Adaptoid, its worse at fighting than we are led to believe, lets not forget that Phyla-vell with almost no energy beat the real deal recently. Four against one, there is a good chance that Typhus team will overwhelm him.

And while in the end I think that Gobber's strategy loses, I cannot say that Typhus wins, because he has not quite earned it yet.

OK, I have more scans showing how Super Adaptoid does battle. These scans prove 2 things. First of all, that he uses the powers he copies in a rudimentary fashion. He did against Cap, he did against Thing, and here he does it against Hulk; straight up brawling instead of using his powers in ways you’ve claimed. Second, these reinforce the fact that he a machine and cannot go beyond his programming.

In Surfer’s body, he'd use the power cosmic in the most rudimentary fashion, nothing extravagent. Most likely nothing beyond large energy blasts and using the board as a weapon (which my team can defend against).

And to reinforce my argument that his duplicates are inferior to the original, here’s a scan showing the quality of the webs he duplicated from Spidey.

Spidey easily breaks the duplicated weps because they’re inferior to his. Also, the scans show once again that SA is a brawler, and that Goober's plan is out of character for his fighting style. And if SA brawls with my 4 - he looses.

As for my heralds not cutting it in speed, here I have Stardust speedblitzing an opponent into a planet causing it to explode:

which he survives (it does not break him down). Stardust is not as easy to dissipate as Goober claims. The scan of Cap hitting Wonder Man in the back of the head is a far cry from having the shield dissipate Stardust and not reform for the rest of the match. Stardust could just as easily blast away the attack with a bolt of cosmic energy. Not to mention I've never seem cap's shield work on anyone on stardust's level, nor can we just assume it will "automagically" make stardust disappear. This is a hypothetical situation, in which there are more factors weighing against the shield to work than for it to succeed. It might hurt to be hit with vibranium, but stardust is imbued with the power cosmic and it will take alot more than a just a shield to dissipate him. Also, It's Super Adaptoid's version of it. A facsmile version. Nothing to indiciate it is it on par with the original. It may be a really good copy, but thats all it is. A copy. Just something else to weigh against the shield to work

I think It’d be best to show some scans of Terrax’s abilities, since Darth would have you believe he’ll be dead within the first 3 seconds of the match. This is simply not so. Scans that support his spatial time bomb/speed blitz strategy are all Surfer (and even then they’re assumptions based on totally different situations). Whereas I’ve posted multiple scans that show that is not SA’s style. When fighting Captain America, Spider-Man, Thing, Quicksilver, and most recently Quasar, he gets in close and slugs it out in the style of his opponent, which gives me the overwhelming advantage.

First off we have Terrax destroying a battleship with one energy blast:

Next is Terrax creating an enormous wave of stone. Considering he’s lifted all of Manhattan into the orbit, it’s really a minor display, however it shows that it would be in character to literally bring the battlefield down upon his opponent.

Here he destroys an entire planet with one swing of his ax.

Now, I can already see the response of ‘these don’t prove he’ll be able to withstand getting pinned against the arena dome and then decapitated’. Granted, but like I demonstrated with my scans, that situation is out of character for Silver Adaptoid and my team will be there backing Terrax up. The second SA appears, he’s getting out numbed and attacked by 4 heralds, putting him on the defensive. But I digress, the purpose of these scans is to merely demonstrate the abilities of who you’d consider the 'weak link' of my team. I just wanted to show that he has incredible power, and although not ‘in Surfer’s league’, his ability would provide devastating backup to the rest of my warriors. For example - SA is locked in a duel with Morg; out of nowhere a mountain comes out of the sky and slams SA against the arena dome. He recovers, but Redshift has cut open a portal and Terrax directs several asteroids through and crushes SA between them, and all the while Redshift and Stardust have been blasting SA with energy blasts. Simple examples, but in character and they demonstrate my point.

Originally posted by Typhus
It doesn’t really because all of the opponents he’s faced, Super Adaptoid was already significantly more powerful than them, but he was outwitted and defeated.

Originally posted by Typhus
The very fact that your claiming that he copied his oppositions durability and therefore was handicapped just shows HOW LIMITED and dependent Super Adaptoid really is on his opposition’s attributes. If he were smart he wouldn’t have copied the opposition’s durability, and would have recalled Iron Man or someone else’s durability who has higher durability than Captain America or Thing to protect himself. But Super Adaptoid doesn’t think like that. He’s A MACHINE. And limited to whatever his programming is. He lacks imagination and thought.

Well what do you know, Super Adaptoid didn't use Cap's abilities at all, he went after Cap with the powers of the Thing and Iron Man. And what's more, he used Iron Man's repulser rays in a way that he'd never seen Iron Man utilize...

Again, there's a difference between not being imaginative with your powers and not being able to use them properly.

Originally posted by Typhus

Super Adaptoid “I was never programmed for such Resistance”

Well what do you know? Is it just me or did SA just KO Iron Man even though the only powers available to him were Cap, the Wasp, Giant Man, and Hawkeye and he couldn't use more than two sets of abilities at a time. But that means... that Super Adaptoid took down an opponent that was actually more powerful than he by being cunning!

Originally posted by Typhus
You have full knowledge on how to use Silver Surfer’s powers, but that doesn’t mean your Super Adaptoid will use those same powers in the same way. He’s a pre-programmed machine. He’ll fight like one. Motivation doesn’t mean anything to him. He’ll fight like always. It could be the first match or last, but he lacks the intrinsic human characteristics to push himself to win.You have presented no proof that regarding Super Adaptoid would act any other way than just fly around on Surfer’s Surf board and try to attack/brawl with his opponents. I’ve presented at least 3 to 5 separate occasions in which Super Adaptoid just runs up and attacks his opponents. He never fights in the way you describe. This isn’t how you would want Super Adaptoid to act. This is how he would most likely act.

A close up from that fight between Iron Man and SA...
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5418/copyofironmanv104911dl7.jpg
"I indeed seek again to detroy Captain America- and here I shall lie in wait for him"
That sounds a lot like a prepped ambush to me, which runs counter to your theory about him not being inclined to do anything but attack head on.

Here's another(and earlier) ambush by the SA on Captain America, and notice he opens with a trick arrow from Hawkeye rather than something more strait forward...
http://img530.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img530/1329/talesofsuspense08416ss8.jpg

What’s SA say he has here…
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5041/copyoftalesofsuspense83nk8.jpg
A NEW PLAN.

Here's SA coming up with a "clever" way to lose Iron Man because he realizes that the're too evenly matched(because Iron Man was the only template he had at the time...
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7725/captainmarvel5005hd0.jpg

And here's Adaptoid using Wanda's powers to screw up the abilities of the Vision(hardly a head on "brawling" attack)...
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8278/captainmarvel5016ad5.jpg

More sneakiness from the SA...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1748/avengersv128921pa8.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5475/avengersv128922rr4.jpg

Using Kublik's powers contain the Avenger's and comes up with an fairly original way to deal with the powers of Captain Marvel despite never having seen it done...
http://img208.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img208/4020/avengersv129004tt9.jpg

Originally posted by Typhus
How do you explain this:

Those very scans above, the very LATEST of Super Adaptoid’s appearance show that he lacks imagination or thought into his attacks. He’ll just perform whatever he’s copied from his opponents.

Originally posted by Typhus
You’ve sealed your own fate! These scans above just show that, rather than doing your complicated bomb plan, he’ll just jump into the fray and attack his opponents. It’s ‘in-character’ for him to do so.

That his ability to plan and prep go beyond AIM's programming. If you're wondering just how complex the plan was it went something like this...

Here's a link to a description of the events in case you have any doubts as to my description of the plan being accurate
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Heavy_Metal

He copied the abilities of the Fixer and Mentallo and used his abilities to revive the robots Sentry 459, TESS-One, and the Awesome Android(and recruited Machine Man along the way). He then had the group attack Hydrobase and the Avengers that were there while he snuck in and broke into their computer files. Once he had the info, he used the equipment present in the lab to summon Kublic(who's powers he then copied).

Now I'm sorry, but are you honestly trying to say that someone who comes up with a master plan like that doesn't have the intelligence and reasoning to come up with the idea of creating an energy "time bomb" after being on the receiving end of something similar in his match against Digi's team? I'm basically adapting the plan of one of my opponents to suit my abilities, how much imagination/creativity do you think you need for something like that?

Originally posted by Typhus
Copied powers become part of Super Adaptoid’s character once you absorb them or have already absorbed them. By proxy effect, it becomes your power and therefore not stackable.

Originally posted by Typhus
OK, I have more scans showing how Super Adaptoid does battle. These scans prove 2 things. First of all, that he uses the powers he copies in a rudimentary fashion. He did against Cap, he did against Thing, and here he does it against Hulk; straight up brawling instead of using his powers in ways you’ve claimed. Second, these reinforce the fact that he a machine and cannot go beyond his programming.

Originally posted by Typhus
In Surfer’s body, he'd use the power cosmic in the most rudimentary fashion, nothing extravagent. Most likely nothing beyond large energy blasts and using the board as a weapon (which my team can defend against).

Originally posted by Typhus
And to reinforce my argument that his duplicates are inferior to the original, here’s a scan showing the quality of the webs he duplicated from Spidey.

Spidey easily breaks the duplicated weps because they’re inferior to his.

Originally posted by Typhus
Also, the scans show once again that SA is a brawler, and that Goober's plan is out of character for his fighting style. And if SA brawls with my 4 - he looses.

Originally posted by Typhus
As for my heralds not cutting it in speed, here I have Stardust speedblitzing an opponent into a planet causing it to explode:

That’s not a speed blitz it’s a bulrush and in case you overlooked it BRB was holding the guy at the time. How about showing some ACTUAL speed reflex feats like these…

Surfer’s as fast as the space winds WITHOUT his board
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7940/story2page01combatwa4.jpg

Surfer searches the surface of the entire planet in a matter of seconds
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7694/silversurferannual0508tc4.jpg

Uses multiple energy blast against multiple targets while dodging multiple incoming blast while moving in a non strait line manner, and all in a single panel
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1935/silversurfer199003316ik9.jpg

Flies through building(who's walls are made of solid vibranium) with enough speed left over to outrun an explosion that started the moment the walls were penetrated
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9544/silversurfer198700130rs9.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4341/silversurfer198700131kw6.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9413/silversurfer198700132uw6.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4861/silversurfer198700133ns0.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/964/silversurfer198700134la1.jpg

Surfer travels to nearly every capital city on Earth and attacks it in a matter of seconds
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1483/silversurfer0105mo5.jpg

Or if you can’t find anything like those, how about proving that you’re guys are fast enough to react to the opening blast by showing some reflex feats like these…
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9906/p3silversurferv309016gd0.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1355/annihilationsilversurfexe9.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8742/silversurfer198902524tv8.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8210/silversurfer198902121my5.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8241/thor47014fn6.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7526/silversurferv3146p12if3.jpg

If you can’t do either of those things for anyone on your team, then it’s more than a little unreasonable for you to assume that they’re going to be able to react to the opening blast. And it would be even more unreasonable to assume that they can react to Surfer’s maximum strait-line bull rushing speed since the gut can travel THOUSANDS of times the speed of light when he goes all out…
Travels a just over a light year in a second or so
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4062/theinfinitygauntlet0442nt1.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/113/theinfinitygauntlet0443pu8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9909/theinfinitygauntlet0444le1.jpg

Another light years in seconds feat
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8551/ff41315hc7.jpg

Originally posted by Typhus
which he survives (it does not break him down). Stardust is not as easy to dissipate as Goober claims.

Originally posted by Typhus
The scan of Cap hitting Wonder Man in the back of the head is a far cry from having the shield dissipate Stardust and not reform for the rest of the match.

Originally posted by Typhus
Stardust could just as easily blast away the attack with a bolt of cosmic energy.

Originally posted by Typhus
Not to mention I've never seem cap's shield work on anyone on stardust's level, nor can we just assume it will "automagically" make stardust disappear. This is a hypothetical situation, in which there are more factors weighing against the shield to work than for it to succeed. It might hurt to be hit with vibranium, but stardust is imbued with the power cosmic and it will take alot more than a just a shield to dissipate him.

Originally posted by Typhus
Also, It's Super Adaptoid's version of it. A facsmile version. Nothing to indicate it is it on par with the original. It may be a really good copy, but thats all it is. A copy. Just something else to weigh against the shield to work

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3201/ironmanv104918uf1.jpg

You’re speculating that everything he adapts is inferior based solely of his copying the Quantum Bands but in actuality no such thing was ever said. He said that creating unique items was DIFFICULT and that his copies of the Quantum Bands was inferior, that’s it. But here’s something you may or may not know about the Quantum Bands, they were created by Eon for the Protector of the Universe(and ONLY the Protector of the Universe) to use and bad things happen to anyone who’s not “authorized” to use them…
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/226/quasar05020vx4.jpg

See the Quantum Bands have fail-safes to protect them from abuse, so unless you have a scan stating that some other item is inferior the whole Quasar episode doesn’t mean anything.

Originally posted by Typhus
I think It’d be best to show some scans of Terrax’s abilities, since Darth would have you believe he’ll be dead within the first 3 seconds of the match. This is simply not so.

1. Bullrush Terrax-elapse time= a fraction of a second
2. Pin Terrax to dome- elapse time= N/A(cause it’s done automatically at the end of the bull rush)
3. Touch Terrax and adapt his powers- elapse time one second
4. Decapitate Terrax-elapse time= a second or less

Hmmm… looks to me like Terrax will have a hard time lasting even the full three seconds…

Originally posted by Typhus
Scans that support his spatial time bomb/speed blitz strategy are all Surfer (and even then they’re assumptions based on totally different situations).

SA bull rushing Quicksilver
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9374/avengers04518uo8.jpg

Originally posted by Typhus
Whereas I’ve posted [b]multiple scans that show that is not SA’s style. When fighting Captain America, Spider-Man, Thing, Quicksilver, and most recently Quasar, he gets in close and slugs it out in the style of his opponent, which gives me the overwhelming advantage.[/B]

Originally posted by Typhus
First off we have Terrax destroying a battleship with one energy blast:

Next is Terrax creating an enormous wave of stone. Considering he’s lifted all of Manhattan into the orbit, it’s really a minor display, however it shows that it would be in character to literally bring the battlefield down upon his opponent.

Here he destroys an entire planet with one swing of his ax.

Now, I can already see the response of ‘these don’t prove he’ll be able to withstand getting pinned against the arena dome and then decapitated’.

Originally posted by Typhus
Granted, but like I demonstrated with my scans, that situation is out of character for Silver Adaptoid

Pin him down(which he does here)
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1553/talesofsuspense08417mo0.jpg

Adapt his powers(which he ALWAYS does)

And then finish him off(which he’s always TRYING to do)

You want to tell me how ANY of that is “out of character” for SA?

Originally posted by Typhus
and my team will be there backing Terrax up. The second SA appears, he’s getting out numbed and attacked by 4 heralds, putting him on the defensive.

Originally posted by Typhus
But I digress, the purpose of these scans is to merely demonstrate the abilities of who you’d consider the 'weak link' of my team. I just wanted to show that he has incredible power, and although not ‘in Surfer’s league’, his ability would provide devastating backup to the rest of my warriors.

Originally posted by Typhus
For example - SA is locked in a duel with Morg; out of nowhere a mountain comes out of the sky and slams SA against the arena dome. He recovers, but Redshift has cut open a portal and Terrax directs several asteroids through and crushes SA between them, and all the while Redshift and Stardust have been blasting SA with energy blasts. Simple examples, but [b]in character and they demonstrate my point. [/B]

Things Typhus wants people to forget about

Concerning his team…

1. NONE of Typhus’s team has the reflexes to deal with Surfer’s top speeds. There’s yet to be an actual speed feat posted for ANY of them in fact. Meanwhile I’ve shown scans of Surfer straight-line travel speed(to cover the bull rush), scans of Surfer blocking energy after it’s fired(to show Surfer’s reflexes), and scans of Surfer blitzing in combat situations(just to show he can).

Typhus is trying to milk Surfer’s reputation by claiming that heralds all share the same level of ability and that’s simply not true. I’ve already shown several scans to suggest that all heralds DON’T share the same abilities(like Terrax not having transmutation) and the abilities they DO share aren’t necessarily on the same level(like Galactus stating Surfer’s superiority to Nova in the senses/tracking department) so Typhus automatically assuming that his team has ample reflexes to respond to my spatial energy wave(and especially a bull rush from someone with Surfer’s speed) despite the fact that there’s been no evidence to suggest either is more than a little far fetched.

2. Terrax is a joke… period. The guys been taken down by the freaking New Warriors for God’s sake. He has zero speed feats and crappy showings all around and has exactly ONE herald level feat to his credit(destroying a planet). You want to see how Terrax stacks up to Surfer? Just take a look at his reaction when he see’s Surfer flying in…
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5350/newwarriors01712rs1.jpg

3. Stardust is an energy being. Cap’s shield absorbs energy and damages beings that are composed of it. Typhus wants to try to shift things so that it seems like I have to prove Cap’s shield will affect Stardust when in actuality the opposite is true. I’ve already shown that it’ll damage energy beings so it’s now up to Typhus to prove that Stardust is an exception to the rule.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4976/spb518ig4.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5008/spb519hk1.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2776/captainamericav3022pageua0.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/784/captainamericav3022pagesm3.jpg

There are the scans that suggest the shield WILL hurt Stardust, where‘s the evidence to suggest that the effect will be any different on Stardust… oh yeah that‘s right, there‘s not any. And just so there‘s no confusion, I‘m not saying that Stardust will be one shotted by Cap‘s shield, but with no feats to suggest any kind of resistance to it‘s effects it’s flat out unreasonable to assume he’s going to last past a few shots with it.

And don’t forget that aside from Cap’s shield I’ll also be wielding an upgraded Sword of Light that has the ability to channel cosmic energy just as Terrax’s ax can(because I took down Terrax first and copied his powers).

4. Redshift is about 1 or two steps up from Terrax and we’ve already seen him lose to Surfer despite the fact that Surfer couldn’t fly at the time, had just expended a bunch of energy doing other things(Alicia even commented on it), and was controlling his boards path through hyperspace DURING the battle. But in case anyone forgot here’s the encounter between the two…
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7696/galactusthedevourer213tv6.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9411/galactusthedevourer214bp5.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3701/galactusthedevourer215sli0.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9323/galactusthedevourer217yj3.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9425/galactusthedevourer218wg5.jpg

5. Morg is a brawler. He’s got an impressive power output but he has NO concept of finesse, You know how Typhus keeps trying to say that SA will never think to use Surfer’s powers for anything other than flying/blasting? Well pretty much all of Morg’s appearances confirm that EXACT behavior during a fight. What’s more, even though does have a significant power output, Surfer’s is still higher(as proven by these scan)…
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4205/silversurferannual07303ff4.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2012/silversurferannual0732ry8.jpg

Concerning SA and my strategy

1. My character is neither Surfer nor the Super Adaptoid, he’s a combination of the two that’s worth far more than it’s individual components. If we take a look at stats we see…

Strength/Durability= the COMBINED durability of Hercules and Lex’s power suit from my match with Digi. That makes my character more durable than the opposition by a fair share(too durable for them to damage unless they really cut loose in fact), and physically stronger than any two of Typhus’s team combined.
Speed= Surfer. And as I’ve already pointed out repeatedly, not a SINGLE feat has been produced to suggest ANYONE on Typhus’s team can handle Surfer’s speed if he’s bull rushing like this…

(Travels a just over a light year in a second or so)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4062/theinfinitygauntlet0442nt1.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/113/theinfinitygauntlet0443pu8.jpg
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9909/theinfinitygauntlet0444le1.jpg

Or just flying around blasting like this…

(Surfer travels to nearly every capital city on Earth and attacks it in a matter of seconds)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1483/silversurfer0105mo5.jpg

Skill= Captain America+Black Knight+Herc… ‘nuff said.

Energy Manipulation/blast= Silver Surfer or Lex’s Power suit, whichever suit’s the situation better.

Equipment= Cap shield +the Sword of Light.

Cap’s shield has some unbelievable feats when it’s just backed by Cap’s “peak human” strength
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4391/fanfare3210un3.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2909/mgn2742qx4.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9519/weaponxvol01no14decembeaq7.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7117/weaponxvol01no14decemberc0.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/407/weaponxvol01no14decembelq6.jpg

So if Cap can break through reinforced steel, hurt Wonderman, and KO Namor with his shield, just imagine what someone who’s as strong as Hercules and Lex’s battle suit and still has all of Cap’s skill can do with it.

As for the Sword of Light… sad to say, I’ve having some major trouble tracking down scans of it because the Black Knight’s respect thread is messed up. But here’s a couple of Bio’s on it for anyone interested in the details…

(Scroll down to the Avalonian equipment section)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_(Dane_Whitman)

(Scroll down to the equipment section).
http://www.superherodb.com/profile.php?hero=Black.Knight.III

Also keep in mind that when I adapt Terrax’s powers I’ll be incorporating his ax’s properties into my sword just as SA copies the powers of Thor’s hammer into his shield here…
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5383/avengers04510nc0.jpg

…so after just a couple minutes the Sword of Light will be able to channel cosmic energy just as Terrax’s ax can.

2. My “time bomb” plan is COMPLETELY in character for me to use. In my fight with Digi his “Galactus Busting Gun” was fired in the opening seconds of the match and I had to struggle to counter it. So when SA’s “Adaptoid Army” was barred(along with the Galactus Gun itself) rather than come up with a brand new idea(which would require an imagination) I modified Digi’s strategy so that I could replicate it to an extent. The first time I used the strategy(against Kandy) even though the “Black Hole blast” cleared away his demons Kandy himself was left unaffected because he existed on another plane at the time. So learning from my previous error, I modified the energy blast so that it would use pure spatial energy and therefore affect a broader range of targets.

Now if people don’t think that SA would think of using spatial energy then that’s fine, go ahead and substitute it back and just consider it to be the same as my original “Black Hole blast”. The energy type is actually somewhat irrelevant because either attack is going to play havoc on the opposing team. Typhus hasn’t shown sufficient speed feats to react to EITHER bomb and since the most powerful person on Typhus’s team(Morg) was KO’d by a blast that destroyed a planet, we can be fairly certain that Typhus’s team is going to get rocked by an energy blast that’s capable of creating a black hole, and given Terrax’s low durability showings there’s a good chance he’ll be KO’d by the blast itself which just my job easier all around since I don’t have to waste the first few seconds of the match on him.

3. My “time bomb” is entirely possible for my character.

Here we see Surfer creating a timed explosion…
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9429/annihilationsilversurfeiv2.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5159/annihilationsilversurfeay7.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5960/annihilationsilversurfekp8.jpg

And here we see Dr. Doom using Surfer’s power cosmic to create another timed effect…
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/3527/16freezesislandevolutiohh0.jpg

Well I guess that should just about do it...

wow...damn good post. While I still think this would be a close fight and not a cakewalk for SA, I'm switching my vote to Goober.

Ok, I let this debate go on for long enough. It's been fun, but I think this debate is getting off track with it just turning into who can post the most scans and links.

Darthgoober, you've presented your case for all to see. I believe you have made your closing remarks, so I'm resting your case and your side of the debate.

Typhus doesn't appear to be around right now, and the both of you appear to be in different time zones. I'll give Typhus a chance to make his closing arguments with a maximum of five posts (the same number darthgoober has made with his final remarks) with one dedicated to closing arguments. Typhus does not have to use all five posts if he does not wish to.

Starscream M (Master-borg), while I don't mind voters changing their votes, you have a habit of changing and switching your vote back and forth in the middle of the debate. You switched, changed, and withdrawn your vote in FOUR seperate matches in this tournament. It's tad bit excessive. So, just to be fair to both competitors, I'm putting your vote on hold until Typhus makes his final posts. That way you can completely go over the entire debate, and read both competitors closing remarks to make a final decision.

And to the supervoters, please wrap this up. I'm sure it was fun to watch the competitors go at it, but the competitors have both made their case, and anything further would be repetitive and tiring to both participants. I know some of you are still on the fence, so please vote as soon as possible after Typhus makes his closing remarks.

Both competitors did a good job. Great debate, and both of you did well. It was a really good final match. Thank you for all your hard work.

-Evangel94

i will wait till typhus makes his comments, but where are the other super-voters?

So unless I'm mistaken this is how the vote count currently stands correct...

Goober
Zeitgeist
leonidas
Soljer
Raoul
Mr. Slippyfist

Typhus
King Kandy

On hold
Starscream M

what about bentley?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what about bentley?

I have not voted yet, I will tonight hoping Typhus posts before I leave.

Great match by the way.

ok, i will do the same, both deserve their final statement.

The majority of Typhus's arguments proclaimed that darthgoober's amalgam would not efficiently execute it's plans because of having the mind of a machine. Typhus endeavors to persuade his audience that the amalgam will use only elementary attacks and pedestrian battle tactics by viciously undermining the abilities of Super Adaptoid, claiming that the very nature of Super Adaptoid's mentality prevents it from doing anything more. However, darthgoober's amalgam has cosmic awareness. Darthgoober has a character that possesses stellar adaptability capabilities, that uses logic in the battlefield, and is imbued with cosmic awareness, a perfect combination of traits for something with the mind of Super Adaptoid. Therefore, I find no reason why darthgoobers' amalgam would not begin the battle as darthgoober plans.

Not only that, Typhus failed to show any speed feets suggesting his team will adequately react to the initial attack, or a strait up brawl in general. He argues that his team is endowed with a Surfer-like cosmic awareness as well, except that is a flawed line of reasoning, as darthgoober proved with the scan with Galactus, Nova, and Silver Surfer.

All in all, Typhus relied too heavily on convincing his audience that darthgoober's plan would not work due to the very nature of the Super Adaptoid's mind and darthgoober simply out-debated him, to the effect that I'm convinced that darthgoober's team would win in a lopsided fashion.

Voting for darthgoober.

Voting Darth, better case by far

About the quantum bands, they were running out of energy because the Phalanax cut the Kree Empire form the rest of the Universe energy, but that´s not important for this match.

The silver adaptoid is formidable because where surfer his a pacifist, he is not, he´s rational, mathematical and he will use all of surfer´s power without a problem, and thats a huge problem for Typhus.

On the other hand Adaptoid lacks imagination and against 4 heralds thats a tough one, Typhus has the advantage of team work also.

I´m inclined to vote Darthbooger, but i would like to have a little more time to think about it, since Thyphus could probably pull this one.