Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
the only I saw in your faqs is "To fill it up, you must get attacked or have damage done enough". ingame, while you're attacked, you're going to taking damage. it's no different.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
why don't you try to cut something with your bare fist and not your chop? see gouki's SF3 : double impact ending again. whether did he used his chop or his punch.
Gouki's goushoryuken and messatsu goushoryu are designed to "slice" through his opponent, unlike their counterparts in Ryu and Ken. They're not impact moves.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
he never used it at the beginning of the fight. true. but my point is I don't see if he must be injured first to execute his limit break.
Originally posted by Terryc250The bolt shot is not particuarily fast from what I remember...
Well he's dodged bullets, he's dodge a bolt shot from Kadaj.
As for bullets, he blocks them, sure, but he ain't blocking Misogi.
Misogi WILL cut the First Tsurigi in half, unless you think the First Tsurigi is more durable than a friggin mountain.
Originally posted by Sado22
bull. you started it and when i brought it up to you, you apologized and even said that normally you don't lose your cool. later on in the devil jin VS nightmare thread, when i supported nightmare with you against wandering flame, you sent me a PM surprised. i can forward it back to you if you want.
You called me an idiot for saying Gouki would beat Goenitz...
Your right, I don't normally lose my cool, and I certainly don't until someone starts alot of sh!t that they can't back up. or when they act like a knowitall smart@$$.
Originally posted by Sado22
considering that i wasn't trying to blunt it in the first place 😆
Then what was the point of debating it? you simply wanted it reworded? it doesn't make Gouki any less of an island killer...
Originally posted by Sado22
before that you have to unload your emo hissy fits on us. THAT is the problem. i've even gotten pm's from other people here who asked me if i knew what was up with your little tantrums all the time. maybe you oughta consider that. and i don't remember you admitting your faults.
Bull, I have only EVER done that that one time, and that took over a year of provocation.
Originally posted by Sado22
blunting sharp blows?
you start the flaming. you start the tantrums. you consider it all a big battle royal. and you still hold grudges. THAT is not civil. if you can't take a joke, its your problem. if you take all this way too seriously. its also your problem.
YOU started the flaming Sado, the sidesnips, the vague jokes, the flame bait. WF is the ONLY one I have ever held a grudge against, and he is gone, and until you become more clear on what is a joke and what is not, you can expect this problem from far more people than me.
Originally posted by Sado22
your post was trying to prove me wrong when i said i'm civil by saying that i joke around and act like a smartass. i'm laughing at your stupidity in saying that "joking around" is a bad thing.
I didn't say joking around is a bad thing, I said learning when to stop the joke is a good thing
Originally posted by Sado22
you called me a "smartass". so what can i say? 😱
So, calling you what you yourself admitted is a bad thing? 🙄
Originally posted by Sado22
that's why he needs to shut the f--k up *shrug*
anyone talking on something without knowing whats going on is simply making an ass out of himself. especially if he insists on pointing fingers on one person only to do the same himself a few days later.
and don't dodge the question. we both have had shinremy stuck in our hair and we both know he's an idiot fanboy. true or not?
When did I deny this?
Yes, Shin Remy is a fanboy, Yes, his antics can get under your skin, BUT, before you got here, he was FAR worse, and Sado, I was teaching him to be better than that, then all this stuff simply destroyed my work... So, you can blame all that stuff directly on yourself...
Originally posted by Sado22
....you know this'd go circularly right? you say i don't know when to be serious...and i'll just say you don't know when to chill😐
Fine, you can be a smart@$$ all day long... I have no qualms about that.
Originally posted by Sado22
then don't care.
*Shrugs*
You called me an idiot for saying Gouki would beat Goenitz...
Your right, I don't normally lose my cool, and I certainly don't until someone starts alot of sh!t that they can't back up. or when they act like a knowitall smart@$$
Then what was the point of debating it? you simply wanted it reworded? it doesn't make Gouki any less of an island killer...
Bull, I have only EVER done that that one time, and that took over a year of provocation.
YOU started the flaming Sado, the sidesnips, the vague jokes, the flame bait. WF is the ONLY one I have ever held a grudge against, and he is gone, and until you become more clear on what is a joke and what is not, you can expect this problem from far more people than me.
and this all coming from somebody who said he's bring me down? pfft...
So, calling you what you yourself admitted is a bad thing?
Yes, Shin Remy is a fanboy, Yes, his antics can get under your skin, BUT, before you got here, he was FAR worse, and Sado, I was teaching him to be better than that, then all this stuff simply destroyed my work... So, you can blame all that stuff directly on yourself...
Fine, you can be a smart@$$ all day long... I have no qualms about that
~Sado
a smaller fireball by bahamut blew up a giantass fountain and the surrounding area. the one cloud went right through without dying was anywhere from 5 to 10 times the size.
as for endurance:
-he got smacked by Seph right across into the side of the building from several feet away and that didn't even slow him down
-he got impaled by seph's masamune and actually broke it by spinning around. the sword was still sticking out from his back when he did it and only the handle was left in seph's hands. notice that seph's sword is like 20ft
-he went right through the bahamut's freaking hugeass blast. and repeat: huge
-got impaled again with said sword and then shot and still survived
stamina feat:
-the whole FFAC is cloud's stamina feat really. right after fighting and beating bahamut, cloud gets into a highspeed bike fight with yazoo and loz who always attacked him simultaneously on their bikes, then fights and beats kadaj and then fought and beat sephiroth.
~Sado
agreed. wanna proof? try this :
Originally posted by Sado22
a smaller fireball by bahamut blew up a giantass fountain and the surrounding area. the one cloud went right through without dying was anywhere from 5 to 10 times the size.as for endurance:
-he got smacked by Seph right across into the side of the building from several feet away and that didn't even slow him down
-he got impaled by seph's masamune and actually broke it by spinning around. the sword was still sticking out from his back when he did it and only the handle was left in seph's hands. notice that seph's sword is like 20ft
-he went right through the bahamut's freaking hugeass blast. and repeat: huge
-got impaled again with said sword and then shot and still survivedstamina feat:
-the whole FFAC is cloud's stamina feat really. right after fighting and beating bahamut, cloud gets into a highspeed bike fight with yazoo and loz who always attacked him simultaneously on their bikes, then fights and beats kadaj and then fought and beat sephiroth.~Sado
you say without dieing? then how much did it damage him? obviosuly i need to know since if it incapaciated him or damaged him beyond him being able to put up much of a fight then its not the best endurance feat you could bring up but also ime interested in how Cloud was hit, was he in the explosion, or did the orb hit him directly? were there other variables involved?
He broke the sword? funny, i was told once it was indestructable 🙄 but anyway thats not that impressive, a normal human can survive a single run through with a sword depending on the area, if you stab a guy through the stomach or through the kidney areas he will not die or at least there will be a long while till he does.
But the blasts size isnt always important, size is rarely the main factor in power anyway, a lot of things look impressive in size yet do veyr little damage at all.
Also what is Gouki main output of power? apprently he sunk an island or something, which imo is more power than a sword stab or hit and Gouki can likely do these punches more times than Bahumaht can breathe his breath, not to mention Gouki is less combusome than Bahumat
you say without dieing? then how much did it damage him? obviosuly i need to know since if it incapaciated him or damaged him beyond him being able to put up much of a fight then its not the best endurance feat you could bring up but also ime interested in how Cloud was hit, was he in the explosion, or did the orb hit him directly? were there other variables involved?
He broke the sword? funny, i was told once it was indestructable
but anyway thats not that impressive, a normal human can survive a single run through with a sword depending on the area
if you stab a guy through the stomach or through the kidney areas he will not die or at least there will be a long while till he does.
But the blasts size isnt always important, size is rarely the main factor in power anyway, a lot of things look impressive in size yet do veyr little damage at all.
Also what is Gouki main output of power? apprently he sunk an island or something
which imo is more power than a sword stab or hit and Gouki can likely do these punches more times than Bahumaht can breathe his breath
not to mention Gouki is less combusome than Bahumat
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
actually, he wasn't even scratched by that ball of fire.then i guess that should make it more impressive for cloud. but of course, these kinda props only go for SF'ers and not anyone else right?
it was through the chest. and seph's sword is 20foot.
through the chest
the small one destroyed the huge city fountain or whatever it was and the area around it. the big one seemed more like a city buster to me really.
didn't sink it. and the island was pretty small. still impressive though.
gouki did the shakuunetsu hadoukens which are supposed to be insanely powerful and he barely did any damage to the area in the latest SF4 vid. while bahamut wrecked the whole fountain and the surrounding area in a single blast.
less what?
~Sado
hmm a ball of fire? the blast in the vid Fuuma showed me looked like an energy ball, is it the same or are we just calling it diffrent things?
Well if it was indestructable, its indestructable, if it broke then obviously its not.
being 20 ft doesnt make a diffrent even if it was only 5 ft tho, the main thing is it went through Clouds body.
isnt that Hadouken supposed to be the one that blows skyscrapers? ive had that used against me in SF debates berore, that they have beams that cut skyscrapers. Either way it looks like a long chargeup and was only one shot still, Cloud being continatually hit by Gouki if Gouki can do this move several times would mean disaster for sure.
Cumbersome sry, you know like the fact bahumat is a big dragon makes him far harder to move around, wheras Gouki likely has more agility by far and so would be able to attack cloud much easier.
I'll answer some of it.
hmm a ball of fire? the blast in the vid Fuuma showed me looked like an energy ball, is it the same or are we just calling it diffrent things?
for me, I don't care whether sado said it is fire ball or an energy. the point is it is destructive.
isnt that Hadouken supposed to be the one that blows skyscrapers? ive had that used against me in SF debates berore, that they have beams that cut skyscrapers. Either way it looks like a long chargeup and was only one shot still, Cloud being continatually hit by Gouki if Gouki can do this move several times would mean disaster for sure
street fighter alpha anime isn't canon. canon feats? think again. hadouken is just a well landed kick. what's more funny, a "kick" could vaporize someone. and capcom stated that's the way they fought?! that's why street fighter alpha the movie is full of bullshit. you could check SF4 trailer while gouki only manage to create a "not so big" explosion when he used his hadouken shower and an explosions which isn't compared to bahamut's energy.
Cumbersome sry, you know like the fact bahumat is a big dragon makes him far harder to move around, wheras Gouki likely has more agility by far and so would be able to attack cloud much easier.
hello...? they fought in the thin air. not on the ground. even if they fought on the ground, bahamut would destroy any obstacles it met. and cloud fought it head to head and not a sneak attack.
isnt that Hadouken supposed to be the one that blows skyscrapers? ive had that used against me in SF debates berore, that they have beams that cut skyscrapers. Either way it looks like a long chargeup and was only one shot still, Cloud being continatually hit by Gouki if Gouki can do this move several times would mean disaster for sure.
hello...? they fought in the thin air. not on the ground. even if they fought on the ground, bahamut would destroy any obstacles it met. and cloud fought it head to head and not a sneak attack.
~Sado