Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11Yes.
u sure?
Ill explain with a metaphor, arnold schwarzenegger was stated by several magazines to be the greatest bodybuilder to ever exist, but does that mean he is the biggest out there when there are other bodybuilders like ronnie coleman or jay cutler?
Think about it.
Originally posted by IAMBATMAN
She said greatest student not the most powerful student. And greatest does not equal to strongest.
Revan's victory over the terentateks leads me to believe that he would win a saber fight, since we don't know whether exile specialized in force combat or saber combat (or both). In a force battle I would be inclined to say Revan. Clearly I think Revan would win in an all out fight.
Originally posted by tulakhordpwnsRead carefully, people were rambling exile > revan because kreia said exile is the greatest student, i was merely explaining to them that greatest is does NOT mean the strongest. I never used that quote to put exile > revan.
You simply cannot use that quote about Exile being greatest to prove that s/he is more powerful than Revan.
it's fairly obvious Revan trumps her in every category. He has the combined knowledge of Malachor V and Korriban, not to mention superior force mastery. It's a no brainer.
Sorry, but your thinking of the wrong Revan. Knightfall said that its the Starforge Revan, so The Exile claerly has the lead in force knowledge since she had a far greater time period of actual practise.
And since the Exile has had more actual duels then Its a safe bet that shes no slacker in a fight.
I still maintain that its too close to call.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Sorry, but your thinking of the wrong Revan. Knightfall said that its the Starforge Revan, so The Exile claerly has the lead in force knowledge since she had a far greater time period of actual practise.And since the Exile has had more actual duels then Its a safe bet that shes no slacker in a fight.
I still maintain that its too close to call.
Nobody cares, since you can't seem to make one intelligent post.
The Exile is nowhere near Revan in force mastery, nor has she had greater time to actually practice it. If you're going to sound like an idiot, at least use facts.
Originally posted by IAMBATMAN
Read carefully, people were rambling exile > revan because kreia said exile is the greatest student, i was merely explaining to them that greatest is does NOT mean the strongest. I never used that quote to put exile > revan.
The Exile is nowhere near Revan in force mastery, nor has she had greater time to actually practice it.
The Exile had about 20 of practice That She Actually Remembers previous to her losing connection to the force. She then had a couple of months training in the game as well as having to singlehandedly train about 4 apprentices. The Exile most definately had more time to prctice the force in.
I would also like to bring up the fact of her Amazing learning rate, in that she learnt at least the basics of 1-3 Forms simply by duelling with the Jedi Masters/ recieving 2 minutes practice with them.
Furthermore, I'd like to point out that The Exile has just about killed more Sith than any other person, so I find it highly unlikely that Revans just going to be able to 'own' her with ease, if at all.
Nobody cares, since you can't seem to make one intelligent post.
Hey Sexy, why don't you take your stupid MC Hammer dance and F*ck off back to the 80's. 😉
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
The Exile had about 20 of practice [b]That She Actually Remembers previous to her losing connection to the force. She then had a couple of months training in the game as well as having to singlehandedly train about 4 apprentices. The Exile most definately had more time to prctice the force in.
I would also like to bring up the fact of her Amazing learning rate, in that she learnt at least the basics of 1-3 Forms simply by duelling with the Jedi Masters/ recieving 2 minutes practice with them.Furthermore, I'd like to point out that The Exile has just about killed more Sith than any other person, so I find it highly unlikely that Revans just going to be able to 'own' her with ease, if at all.
Hey Sexy, why don't you take your stupid MC Hammer dance and F*ck off back to the 80's. 😉 [/B]
And the self pwnage continues..
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
The Exile had about 20 of practice [b]That She Actually Remembers previous to her losing connection to the force. She then had a couple of months training in the game as well as having to singlehandedly train about 4 apprentices. The Exile most definately had more time to prctice the force in.
I would also like to bring up the fact of her Amazing learning rate, in that she learnt at least the basics of 1-3 Forms simply by duelling with the Jedi Masters/ recieving 2 minutes practice with them.Furthermore, I'd like to point out that The Exile has just about killed more Sith than any other person, so I find it highly unlikely that Revans just going to be able to 'own' her with ease, if at all.
Hey Sexy, why don't you take your stupid MC Hammer dance and F*ck off back to the 80's. 😉 [/B]
The Exile didn't learn those forms after 2 minutes of fighting. The act of her learning that was an ingame experience and we don't know how much time passes in the game in 2 minutes our time. In reality it could have been a couple hours, still a good feat but also remember she was a jedi during the Mando wars and it's kind of like riding a bike after a couple hours of training how the forms work could come back to her mind.
I don't think she killed more sith than anyone Revan also killed quite a lot sith during Kotor but again all of that is in game
Pre Kotor Revan knows force techniques that Darth Bane was afraid to try. and Revan regained all of his memory after the events of Kotor so he would still knows those techniques, also some of those could have been "techniques in the force to which there is no defense"-Traya
The Exile was good don't get me wrong but Revan is just better in every aspect. and no I don't think it would be pwnage but Revan definantly does come out of this duel the victor.
Just to clarify those techniques Bane was apparently afraid to try were Sith rituals (nothing to do with combat related techniques of which Bane never showed fear of utilizing).
You can't assume Revan knew "techniques to which there was no defense". The quote was referencing Nihilus' immense strength in the dark side, and the specific force power he mastered. We know nothing about Revan's knowledge in combat related force powers.
Revan is inferior to Nihilus in terms of power, and was said to be stronger in his amnesiac state (Kotor 1) than he was as a Sith Lord before Kotor 1.
Beyond that the Exile that fought in the Mando wars with Revan is weaker than the Exile in kotor 2, who is a wound in the force and got stronger with the force bonds she formed and the people she killed.
At this point IMO - given what each character has accomplished - this fight is a toss up.
where does it say rituals because as i recall it was simply stated as force techniques
and traya wasn't referring to just Nihilus's force drain either she said There are techniques within the Force against which there is no defense.
techniques as in more than one.
I know that Kotor2 exile is more powerful than she was in the mando wars but it doesn't matter because Revan post kotor is still her superior.
Originally posted by Allankles
Just to clarify those techniques Bane was apparently afraid to try were Sith [B]rituals (nothing to do with combat related techniques of which Bane never showed fear of utilizing).You can't assume Revan knew "techniques to which there was no defense". The quote was referencing Nihilus' immense strength in the dark side, and the specific force power he mastered. We know nothing about Revan's knowledge in combat related force powers.
Revan is inferior to Nihilus in terms of power, and was said to be stronger in his amnesiac state (Kotor 1) than he was as a Sith Lord before Kotor 1.
Beyond that the Exile that fought in the Mando wars with Revan is weaker than the Exile in kotor 2, who is a wound in the force and got stronger with the force bonds she formed and the people she killed.
At this point IMO - given what each character has accomplished - this fight is a toss up. [/B]
Except it's not a toss up. There is NO evidence of the Exile being in Revan's league in terms of force mastery. While I agree Revan is inferior to Nihilus in terms of raw power, he still trumps in him in the force ability category. Nihilus is an anomaly because he's a wound in the force, so his power is very hard to gauge. The exile is an average jedi who happened to have the ability to create force bonds (learned from Revan). This has been argued to death already.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except it's not a toss up. There is NO evidence of the Exile being in Revan's league in terms of force mastery. While I agree Revan is inferior to Nihilus in terms of raw power, he still trumps in him in the force ability category. Nihilus is an anomaly because he's a wound in the force, so his power is very hard to gauge. The exile is an average jedi who happened to have the ability to create force bonds (learned from Revan). This has been argued to death already.
Revan benefits form being over inflated.
Nothing in POD references Revan's knowledge on combat effective force techniques, just a couple of sith rituals one of which Bane tricks Kaan into using.
Kotor 1 Revan is the most powerful Revan to date and he wasn't anymore impressive than the Exile in Kotor 2.
Furthermore Revan's mastery of the dark side of the force pales in comparison to Nihilus', so whatever knowledge you choose to assume he had, it doesn't change the fact that Nihilus' power and feats speak louder than any suppositions.
Post Kotor 1 Revan regains his knowledge, but where is the proof that he's more powerful than what we witness in Kotor 1? He was already doing things by reflex and Malak comments he'd grown more powerful than his knowledgeable past self, no less.
Anyway, it's my opinion, you want to argue the error of my ideas? I've given a logical explanation as to how I've come to these conclusions.