Originally posted by truejedi
hmm... if the SA is all that we expect him to be, and then Vader DOMINATES him, in an obvious way in the game, does that make VADER on top of the Star wars food chain?
Originally posted by Elite Hunter
From what I have read about the game there will be circumstances that would come into play if it happens that way.
The SA uses the force like no other Jedi or force user in history. He's Vader's experiment with the force. On top of that Vader chose him because he has great potential, and believes he could help him topple Sidious.
If Vader dominates the SA he'll be clearly above guys like Bane and Kun who are considered to be on his level.
The SA uses the force like no other Jedi or force user in history.
No, not at all, Allankles.
It's a confusing situation, really.
In one of the videos in the Force Unleashed official page, when asked if the Secret Apprentice is the most powerful Force-user ever in an interview, Haden Blackman answers the question saying the Secret Apprentice is pretty powerful (using those exact same words), but the game portrays the Force in a more extreme, unleashed (precisely), way in general, and that all of the Force-users the character faces throughout the game will be unleashed as well.
On the other hand, we have the other video from the page which shows the SA taking down a Star Destroyer with the Force, a feat which would pretty much rank him in the Top 10, at the very least.
Clearly, Blackman has no idea how powerful his character really is, since, to him, the SA is only "pretty powerful".
Originally posted by Allankles
The SA uses the force like no other Jedi or force user in history. He's Vader's experiment with the force. On top of that Vader chose him because he has great potential, and believes he could help him topple Sidious.If Vader dominates the SA he'll be clearly above guys like Bane and Kun who are considered to be on his level.
I read a spoiler for a part of a cutscene and if the two were to fight there may very well be circumstances that helps Vader but then again we would have to take what the novel shows as canon not over the top gameplay. So I will reserve my judgment till I read the book.
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
No, not at all, Allankles.It's a confusing situation, really.
In one of the videos in the Force Unleashed official page, when asked if the Secret Apprentice is the most powerful Force-user ever in an interview, Haden Blackman answers the question saying the Secret Apprentice is pretty powerful (using those exact same words), but the game portrays the Force in a more extreme, [B]unleashed
(precisely), way in general, and that all of the Force-users the character faces throughout the game will be unleashed as well.On the other hand, we have the other video from the page which shows the SA taking down a Star Destroyer with the Force, a feat which would pretty much rank him in the Top 10, at the very least.
Clearly, Blackman has no idea how powerful his character really is, since, to him, the SA is only "pretty powerful". [/B]
I don't think Blackman is that concerned about where to rank the character in power. He has him pulling down star destroyers, that speaks for itself. We'll see how it pans out, it will certainly be interesting getting to see a new chapter in Vader's legacy.
Any WTF? Bastila, the strongest Jedi? Is that a friggin' joke?It's almost as NOT FUNNY as Sion being the strongest Sith. Sidious, Bane, Kun, and the likes will smash him to little pieces...
Yes, I'm pretty sure that that whole post was a joke. In fact, that you didn't get that is kind of embarrassing for you.
nihilus and bane above sidious and exar kun? Are you kidding?
Nihilus pulled a freakin' starship out of a gravity well and Drained a whole planets inhabitants whilst holding it together, That's freakin' Huge!!! And, well, I don't feel why I have to explain the reason for Bane.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Yes, I'm pretty sure that that whole post was a joke. In fact, that you didn't get that is kind of embarrassing for you.
Actually, if this is the Nebaris I've seen, which is likely seeing as he has an apparent crush on Bane, it probably wasn't a joke.
Nihilus pulled a freakin' starship out of a gravity well and Drained a whole planets inhabitants whilst holding it together, That's freakin' Huge!!!
I would understand Nihilus being above Kun in terms of raw power, but above Sidious? Do you want me to tell you what 'freakin' Huge!!!" powers he has? Nihilus doesn't compare.
As I said before, I don't care if people don't like Sidious being the most powerful, but as a matter of fact he is, and this is the second and third most powerful discussion, so you can't include him in the ranks.
And if you yourself said his whole post was a joke, why in hell do you go and strongly imply you agree with him?
While we are on the subject of Sidious, I got to be honest while know that Sidious is the most power, i still have trouble at times accepting this by his ROTS persona it is probably due to the lack of feats that other sith have over him at this point. I mean without the quotes saying him to be the most powerful by rots I would put a few other sith over him(his rots self) such as Caedus.
Originally posted by Faunus
No statement that apply to Sidious would count for later Sith anyway; he's the most powerful Sith as of DE, and any that follow are free from the constraints of authors' bias and stupidity.
Bias and stupidity? How so? I would prefer such an accolade be given to a character worthy of it, wouldn't you, as opposed to a Sith Lord (even one such as Marka Ragnos) who is insignificant in comparison in terms of importance to the story.
Originally posted by Tangible God
WTF are you talking about? Palpatine is NOT #1. At most he places third, maybe second if it's DE. The right honourable and much revered Bane is #1.
I knew that somebody on here had to have a brain.
You, Tangible God, officially have a brain.
Bane is the shiz of the Sith. The king, baby!
Originally posted by GideonNobody should be named so. Not Sidious, not Yoda, not Ragnos - you get the picture. It's just dumb, and clearly, as Dan Wallace himself stated, a matter of "belief." He figured Sidious was the most powerful, so he decided to canonize it.
Bias and stupidity? How so? I would prefer such an accolade be given to a character worthy of it, wouldn't you, as opposed to a Sith Lord (even one such as Marka Ragnos) who is insignificant in comparison in terms of importance to the story.
To be honest, without the quotes, I'd put RoTS Sidious on equal level with other top Sith- DE Sidious, however, is basically unmatched.
Caedus' power makes no sense, because if Sidious is stronger than him- and by feats and accomplishments, he would appear to be his superior- then Sidious would logically be Luke's equal or at the very least near-equal. Which is weird, cause Luke is supposed to be DA GODLIEST. xD
Luke doesn't have a peak. 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